Some interesting comments from Garrett Reisman at the AIAA space Human Flight panel see 30:15 http://new.livestream.com/AIAAvideo/space2014/videos/58462185 1. The capsule that was shown has the Interior Structural Qualification Article. 2. The exterior is the TPS panels that will be used on the Pad Abort vehicle.
http://new.livestream.com/AIAAvideo/space2014/videos/58462185
CCtCap: Boeing CST-100 called 'simpler' - but a "powerpoint tiger?:" SpaceX way ahead on design and test of real hardware for Dragon V2.
An interesting tweetnot sure if it is a "slip of an embargo" or notQuoteCCtCap: Boeing CST-100 called 'simpler' - but a "powerpoint tiger?:" SpaceX way ahead on design and test of real hardware for Dragon V2.
Quote from: jabe on 08/21/2014 07:02 pmAn interesting tweetnot sure if it is a "slip of an embargo" or notQuoteCCtCap: Boeing CST-100 called 'simpler' - but a "powerpoint tiger?:" SpaceX way ahead on design and test of real hardware for Dragon V2.Owww.... harsh!
But no reference who is supposed to have said it.
Quote from: docmordrid on 08/21/2014 07:58 pmQuote from: jabe on 08/21/2014 07:02 pmAn interesting tweetnot sure if it is a "slip of an embargo" or notQuoteCCtCap: Boeing CST-100 called 'simpler' - but a "powerpoint tiger?:" SpaceX way ahead on design and test of real hardware for Dragon V2.Owww.... harsh!But true... Boeing's ratio of "paper"/"powerpoint" milestones to hardware milestones ratio for CCiCap is much higher than SNC or SpaceX. Besides the pressure vessel and abort engine (from another project), precious little CST-100 hardware has seen the light. Boeing does not want to spend any more than it has to.
Quote from: Lars_J on 08/21/2014 08:17 pmQuote from: docmordrid on 08/21/2014 07:58 pmQuote from: jabe on 08/21/2014 07:02 pmAn interesting tweetnot sure if it is a "slip of an embargo" or notQuoteCCtCap: Boeing CST-100 called 'simpler' - but a "powerpoint tiger?:" SpaceX way ahead on design and test of real hardware for Dragon V2.Owww.... harsh!But true... Boeing's ratio of "paper"/"powerpoint" milestones to hardware milestones ratio for CCiCap is much higher than SNC or SpaceX. Besides the pressure vessel and abort engine (from another project), precious little CST-100 hardware has seen the light. Boeing does not want to spend any more than it has to.Absolutely. And given the different between active flight test components and heritage flight components, it might make one cautious for selection, even given the enormous talent, competence, and experience.Yes, big companies fool themselves into travelling "cheap". All along they've been miffed at the stingy budget for commercial crew out of Congress. More so than the other two.
The tweet is certainly true. Most of us have been saying that for quite some time.It always bothered me that NASA new what milestones they were paying for through the CCiCAP phase. They knew after 400+ Million where Boeing was going to net out. If it took that much for them to get to this point, they must have known that for CCtCAp, they'd need substantially more. I suppose they had to let this play out as there were uncertainties with how DC would progress. But thank the stars Mark and his team really pushed through the last 18 months or so. I commend the Boeing team but I suspect corporate kept the CST team on a very short financial leash.Well, NASA should just get this over with now. We all know how it's going to play out.
DST would be a money hole if selected.
Boeing is accustomed to decades and billions. Fast-paced and cost-competitive are hard.
All along they've been miffed at the stingy budget for commercial crew out of Congress.
It always bothered me that NASA new what milestones they were paying for through the CCiCAP phase. They knew after 400+ Million where Boeing was going to net out.
So essentially Boeing, who received the most funding from NASA, may have had lower overall funding (NASA + Boeing) available for making progress than other contenders - certainly SpaceX it appears. That was a strategy decision that Boeing made, and we'll see how well that turns out.