Author Topic: May 2021 Pentagon Report on UAP/UFO Sightings, followup: updates and discussion  (Read 130474 times)

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Full video of the latest UAP hearing:


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Best and most relevant part of the transcript:
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The NASA brand is synonymous with hope, optimism, and credibility. If you were to take a walk down the national mall, you would immediately see the NASA logo on T-shirts, hats, and bumper stickers. Few federal agencies enjoy this kind of popularity. I've never seen anyone wearing an Office of Personnel Management T-shirt, which is why NASA could play such an influential role.

I append without comment HHRG-118-GO06-20241113-SD003.pdf as downloaded from
https://www.congress.gov/118/meeting/house/117722/documents/HHRG-118-GO06-20241113-SD003.pdf
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Re: Upcoming (May 2021) Pentagon Report on UAP/UFO Sightings
« Reply #402 on: 11/26/2024 07:21 am »
WOW THAT LOOKS AMAZING!
I suppose if you look at what is most likely of an explanation it would have to be an advanced technology from either China, Russia or some other country. But.....

80,000 feet vertical climb in less than 1 second?

Aliens? It's almost as believable as Earth technology from the future engaged in time travel.

Perhaps some kind of weird natural phenomena? Like a form of ball lightning?

Does this photo look like Pareidolia or Ball lightning?


FWIW, Tyler Rogoway over at The War Zone thinks that the "UFOs" are actually drones operated by adversary nations to spy on US military exercises. https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/40054/adversary-drones-are-spying-on-the-u-s-and-the-pentagon-acts-like-theyre-ufos

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I would like to think that too much attention can lead to attention loss. Yes, you can see a wall when it comes up out of the water, of course it splashes back into the water. I mean, ripples in the water and reflections, shadows, etc. that you see do not necessarily mean that there is something extraterrestrial there. Although I suspect that we have never been visited by aliens! On the other hand, countries that try something new or have a joke, why not?

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Pentagon ‘still mystified’ as drone drama deepens

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Notably, the objects are impervious to electronic jamming efforts, indicating that they are not off-the-shelf hobbyist drones.

https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/5211562-pentagon-mystified-as-drone-drama-deepens/
« Last Edit: 03/25/2025 07:16 pm by Star One »

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I see "drone scares" are the new "UFO flaps".

(For anyone who has followed UFO panics over the decades, you immediately recognise many of the "tells" of mundane things (mostly stars/planets and commercial aircraft) being misidentified by panicked witnesses (yes, including military and police.) Lights "following" people. Rapidly flashing, often multi-coloured lights (one might say, twinkling). Witnesses claiming specific sizes/speed/heights for objects they can't identify. Etc etc. And over and over, whenever we have good information - ie, time, location, direction, video - these drones always turn out to be something mundane, but those investigations being ignored by media over and over. But a new one, that's actually funny, and "drone" specific, is these mysterious enemy spy drones always being brightly lit.)

((And once again it ticks me off that official investigations (that eventually reach the same conclusion as skeptics) do not result in identification methods being passed back down to training. Particularly for in-house/in-unit investigations. Apparently not a single freakin' thing learned by the UAP investigation committee has been passed back down to actual service personnel, let alone to civilian investigators. No methods, no examples, no learning. Not even basic stuff, like how to do reports (and hence what you need to pay attention to and document.) Whenever there's an incident involving aviation (civilian or military), there's reports to central authorities, investigations, and recommendation for changes to training, operations, systems, sometimes to the point of requiring updates to aircraft/airports... except when it's UFOs, and now drones. When it comes to UFOs/UAPs/drones, suddenly it's the equivalent of commercial aviation in the 1950s or '60s.))

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more sensationalist headlines?

‘We are not alone.’ Talk of UFOs again on Capitol Hill months after Congressional hearing
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/05/01/ufo-briefing-congress-government-aliens-extraterrestrial-coverup/83368972007/

this one was kind of amusing

The FBI Just Quietly Revealed That It Has a Real-Life UFO Office
https://futurism.com/fbi-quietly-reveals-ufo-office

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more sensationalist headlines?

‘We are not alone.’ Talk of UFOs again on Capitol Hill months after Congressional hearing
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/05/01/ufo-briefing-congress-government-aliens-extraterrestrial-coverup/83368972007/

this one was kind of amusing

The FBI Just Quietly Revealed That It Has a Real-Life UFO Office
https://futurism.com/fbi-quietly-reveals-ufo-office
Don’t tell me they used to have a Mulder & Scully working there.

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mostly hobby people flying a cheap drone?

UAP news
1,700 sightings logged

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2025/05/01/congress-revisits-ufos-nevada-has-1700-reported-sightings/83386959007/

'Congress takes up UFOs again.'

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mostly hobby people flying a cheap drone?

It'll still mostly just be normal aircraft misidentified. (Including military aircraft.) Sometimes planets and bright stars flashing colours weirdly on the horizon at dusk.

Consumer-level drones would just be an extra thin layer of froth on the top of regular sightings. Given their low operating altitude, they aren't visible over a wide area, reducing the number of people who can see (let alone misidentify) each one.

Commercial drone shows might be adding to the noise, I suspect. Sadly, I haven't seen one in person, so don't know how weird they look from a distance, all smooshed together down near the horizon. And I assume Vegas has embraced those as an addition to regular fireworks shows.

A special Nevada one is the number of spot-light/search-lights used by the Vegas casinos, they can create weird white-disks and "saucers" in the otherwise invisible thin cloud layers at night, visible at extreme distances under the right conditions; apparently caused a lot of reports, historically.
« Last Edit: 05/30/2025 09:57 pm by Paul451 »

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Very glad you posted that. Thanks. I'm sure, though, that to plenty of believers this will be sern as merely a more sophisticated government cover-up!

It's not the first time I've read that the US government found it desirable to promote UFO nonsense. Though I don't remember where I read this, when the CIA realized that the Soviets were wasting resources investigating American UFO reports, it began encouraging them on the theory that anything that's bad for my enemy is hood for me.

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Former US fighter pilot claims he nearly collided with UFO in ‘wildest experience’ he’s ever had
https://nypost.com/2025/06/20/us-news/former-us-fighter-pilot-maj-ryan-bodenheimer-claims-he-nearly-collided-with-ufo-in-wildest-experience-hes-ever-had/


people calling them UFOs again despite government efforts to rebrand as UAP

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Former NASA responds to UFO witnesses, Fox News interviewed Joseph Gutheinz, “a retired senior special agent with NASA’s Office of Inspector General".  Gutheinz led the Omniplan task force investigation, which determined that Omniplan, a NASA contractor, was submitting false claims to NASA. Gutheinz also investigated and arrested Jerry Alan Whittredge, an astronaut impersonator. Gutheinz also investigated the Russian space program and a fire and collision on the Mir space station. American attorney, college instructor, commissioner, writer, and former Army intelligence officer, Army aviator, and Federal law enforcement officer., known as the founder of the "Moon Rock Project" which aims to track down missing Apollo Moon rock samples. Gutheinz has received awards from six Federal agencies and one state for his governmental service.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/ufo-cover-used-government-hide-things-former-nasa-agent-says

"I think that we use the UFO cover to hide a lot of things."

https://futurism.com/former-nasa-agent-ufo-coverup

Indeed, in a recent exposé from the Wall Street Journal, military officials all but corroborated that the military obfuscated its secret projects at sites like Area 51 by playing into alien rumors. In one anecdote shared with the Pentagon's real-life UFO hunting office, known as the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office, a former Air Force colonel even admitted to distributing doctored photos of a so-called "flying saucer" at a bar near the base.

While such trolling may or may not have been cosigned by the Department of Defense, the idea that the military would intentionally exploit theories about UFOs, which the government now calls "unidentified anomalous phenomena" or UAPs, jibes well with Gunthienz's interest in government secrets.

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"The bottom line is," he continued, "I think that we use the UFO cover to hide a lot of things."

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Ball of Lightning a phenomenon distinct from St. Elmo's fire and will-o'-the-wisp, a rare Plasma Ball, an unusual   and unexplained phenomenon described as luminescent spherical floating glowing ball objects


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