Author Topic: First to reach orbit, New Glenn vs Starship? (Read 17201 times)

Tywin · « **Reply #60 on:** 05/24/2023 08:24 am »

The race is on...

Tommyboy · « **Reply #61 on:** 05/24/2023 11:46 am »

Quote from: Tywin on 05/24/2023 08:24 am

The race is on...

What's changed?

Vahe231991 · « **Reply #62 on:** 05/24/2023 03:20 pm »

Quote from: Tommyboy on 05/24/2023 11:46 am

Quote from: Tywin on 05/24/2023 08:24 am
The race is on...
What's changed?

Elon Musk wants to have SpaceX conduct the second Starship launch this summer. Regardless, Starship could be the first to reach a sustained orbit because construction of sub-assemblies for the New Glenn is still underway.

Tywin · « **Reply #63 on:** 05/24/2023 07:56 pm »

whitout a pad, I doubt...

spacenut · « **Reply #64 on:** 05/24/2023 08:03 pm »

Pad is being rebuilt as we type.

Tywin · « **Reply #65 on:** 06/08/2023 01:56 am »

New Glenn is coming, the 2024 will be amazing...

spacenut · « **Reply #66 on:** 06/08/2023 02:08 am »

The Starship pad should be finished by the first of July with the improvements. Then it would be waiting on FAA launch approval for a specific time. At least 2-3 Starships are built as well as a couple of more boosters. They do have approval to launch 5 times a year from Boca Chica.

New Glenn is way behind schedule, like several years behind. Even Starship is a couple of years behind Schedule, but SpaceX has the hardware and engines. Blue doesn't tell us much.

Also, New Glenn is not a competitor to Starship, but to Falcon Heavy as for payload capabilities. Starship is more a competitor to SLS.

Tommyboy · « **Reply #67 on:** 06/08/2023 10:29 am »

Quote from: Tywin on 06/08/2023 01:56 am

New Glenn is coming, the 2024 will be amazing...

No way that NG is launching in 2024.

Kspbutitscursed · « **Reply #68 on:** 09/04/2023 01:15 am »

Quote from: Tommyboy on 06/08/2023 10:29 am

Quote from: Tywin on 06/08/2023 01:56 am
New Glenn is coming, the 2024 will be amazing...
No way that NG is launching in 2024.

its targeting Q4 2023 at the moment but it will probably launch in 2024

AndrewM · « **Reply #69 on:** 09/07/2023 02:12 am »

Quote from: Kspbutitscursed on 09/04/2023 01:15 am

Quote from: Tommyboy on 06/08/2023 10:29 am
Quote from: Tywin on 06/08/2023 01:56 am
New Glenn is coming, the 2024 will be amazing...
No way that NG is launching in 2024.
its targeting Q4 2023 at the moment but it will probably launch in 2024

There is 0 chance for a 2023 launch, Vulcan is currently targeting mid-December 2023 at the earliest for its debut and it has the first flight BE-4s.

Coastal Ron · « **Reply #70 on:** 09/07/2023 03:00 am »

Quote from: Tywin on 05/24/2023 07:56 pm

whitout a pad, I doubt...

Your comment was from May 24th, when it was unclear what the solution was going to be for the Starship Orbital Launch Platform rebuild. Now we know what the solution is, it's been installed, it seems to work, and they have a flight stack of booster and ship on the pad waiting for FAA approval.

They still have a lot of new things to prove out, like hot staging, but assuming the OLM survives in good shape after the upcoming launch, SpaceX has more ships and boosters they can process for flight THIS YEAR!

What is the latest progress on New Glenn? Do they have a complete flight set built yet?

Vahe231991 · « **Reply #71 on:** **Today** at 03:41 am »

Quote from: Coastal Ron on 09/07/2023 03:00 am

Quote from: Tywin on 05/24/2023 07:56 pm
whitout a pad, I doubt...
What is the latest progress on New Glenn? Do they have a complete flight set built yet?

Blue Origin has not yet completed a single New Glenn, but photos of fabricated hardware for the New Glenn rocket can be found here:
https://www.space.com/blue-origin-new-glenn-rocket-factory-photo

Coastal Ron · « **Reply #72 on:** **Today** at 03:55 am »

Quote from: Vahe231991 on Today at 03:41 am

Quote from: Coastal Ron on 09/07/2023 03:00 am
Quote from: Tywin on 05/24/2023 07:56 pm
whitout a pad, I doubt...
What is the latest progress on New Glenn? Do they have a complete flight set built yet?
Blue Origin has not yet completed a single New Glenn, but photos of fabricated hardware for the New Glenn rocket can be found here:
https://www.space.com/blue-origin-new-glenn-rocket-factory-photo

Oh, I have no doubt that they have pieces and parts of a New Glenn rocket, but since the topic of this thread is about who will be the first to reach orbit, how does that compare to actual flight hardware that SpaceX has already assembled and tested, and is just awaiting government approval of the launch license?

And granted, this next Starship launch may not make it to orbit, but SpaceX has stated publicly that they have lots of hardware in process, and will try to fit in another launch this year.

It's just a matter of looking at the pace of accomplishment to understand that SpaceX has tremendous advantages over Blue Origin regarding who will reach orbit first. One would have to hope for something major to go wrong with SpaceX to give New Glenn a chance to reach orbit first.