Author Topic: Soyuz-2.1a - Kosmos 2567 - Plesetsk - 23 March 2023 (06:40 UTC)  (Read 7343 times)

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There are indications that a Soyuz 2.1v with EMKA 4 will be launched around March 20.
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There are indications that a Soyuz 2.1v with EMKA 4 will be launched around March 20.

The source for this information are two posts on a Russian spaceflight forum on March 12:
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/Космические-технологии.1045319/page-1273

Someone with apparent inside knowledge said that according to a January plan the first launch from Plesetsk this year should take place "in the coming days" and that the payload will be what he called "the fourth EO". This should be EO MKA N4, a satellite of the same type as Kosmos-2551, 2555 and 2560.

Of course, the launch may well have slipped since then. The rumored March 20 launch date seems to be based on a NOTAM that is not at all related to Plesetsk. So no certainty at all that this launch will take place this month.   
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There are indications that a Soyuz 2.1v with EMKA 4 will be launched around March 20.

The source for this information are two posts on a Russian spaceflight forum on March 12:
https://www.skyscrapercity.com/threads/Космические-технологии.1045319/page-1273

Someone with apparent inside knowledge said that according to a January plan the first launch from Plesetsk this year should take place "in the coming days" and that the payload will be what he called "the fourth EO". This should be EO MKA N4, a satellite of the same type as Kosmos-2551, 2555 and 2560.

Of course, the launch may well have slipped since then. The rumored March 20 launch date seems to be based on a NOTAM that is not at all related to Plesetsk. So no certainty at all that this launch will take place this month.   
Launch seems to be planned for NET March 23 0600Z

A1579/23 - TEMPO DANGER AREA 'RUSSIAN MISSILE MAR23 IMPACT II' ACTIVATED PSN
763000N 0220000E - 752000N 0244000E - 745000N 0214000E - 755000N
0184000E - (763000N 0220000E). IMPACT AREA FOR RUSSIAN MISSILES. GND - UNL,
DAILY 0600-0800, 23 MAR 06:00 2023 UNTIL 28 MAR 08:00 2023. CREATED: 15 MAR 12:14
2023

A1576/23 - TEMPO DANGER AREA 'RUSSIAN MISSILE MAR23 IMPACT 1B' ACTIVATED PSN
705600N 0320458E - 701000N 0320458E - 700928N 0320152E - 701500N
0315000E - 703007N 0315000E - 703622N 0314318E - (705600N 0320458E).
IMPACT AREA FOR RUSSIAN MISSILES. GND - UNL, DAILY 0600-0800, 23 MAR 06:00 2023
UNTIL 28 MAR 08:00 2023. CREATED: 15 MAR 11:33 2023


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These coordinates are not for a Soyuz-2.1v, but a Soyuz-2.1a or 2b going to SSO. They differ from the ones announced for earlier Soyuz-2-1v launches, but are identical to those for the Bars-M launch (Kosmos-2556) last May. This means that the payload most likely is not EO MKA nr. 4 (besides, there were rumors that Kosmos-2560 was the last such satellite).  Other candidates besides Bars-M are Razdan (a big new-generation optical reconnaissance satellite of RKTs Progress) and a trio of smaller reconnaissance satellites of VNIIEM (possibly Razbeg) that were originally supposed to have flown in the second half of last year. 

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EMKA No.4 also seemed illogical to me.
At some point, "experimental" must be finished.
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EMKA No.4 also seemed illogical to me.
At some point, "experimental" must be finished.
EO MKA N4 is what it was corrected to.

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Date:    191830 UTC mar 23
Warning:    NAVAREA XIX 27/23
BARENTS SEA
AREA TEMPORARILY DANGEROUS TO NAVIGATION
DUE TO ROCKET CARRIER ELEMENTS FALL
23 TO 28 MAR DAILY FROM 0600 TO 0800 UTC
76-30N 022-00E 75-20N 024-40E
74-50N 021-40E 75-50N 018-40E

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The Soyuz-2.1v launch is now scheduled for next week:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=58491.0

The Next Spaceflight website lists the payload for this week's Soyuz-2.1 launch as the Bars-M No.4.

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The Next Spaceflight website lists the payload for this week's Soyuz-2.1 launch as the Bars-M No.4.

The source for that may well be NSF. Again, the impact zones are the same as those for last year's launch of Bars-M No. 3, but that does not necessarily mean it is another Bars-M. It could also be another payload going to SSO (see Reply 3 for two possible alternatives).  The launch schedule on the NK forum now gives the payload as Obzor-R. Since this is a civilian (radar) satellite, you'd expect to see some more pre-launch coverage of that, but anything is possible these days. 

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X2730/23 - TEMPO DANGER AREA ACT:
705600N 0320458E-701000N 0334000E-695400N 0324000E-
700928N 0320152E-701000N 0320458E-701820N 0320458E-
705600N 0320458E. GND - UNL, 23 24 25 26 27 28 0600-0800, 23 MAR 06:00 2023
UNTIL 28 MAR 08:00 2023. CREATED: 19 MAR 09:41 2023
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The Next Spaceflight website lists the payload for this week's Soyuz-2.1 launch as the Bars-M No.4.

The source for that may well be NSF. Again, the impact zones are the same as those for last year's launch of Bars-M No. 3, but that does not necessarily mean it is another Bars-M. It could also be another payload going to SSO (see Reply 3 for two possible alternatives).  The launch schedule on the NK forum now gives the payload as Obzor-R. Since this is a civilian (radar) satellite, you'd expect to see some more pre-launch coverage of that, but anything is possible these days.

I'm the one who added the entry to the database, indeed based on the content here. I tried to give out the uncertainty in the detailed description under the entry ("Launch vehicle and payload identities uncertain."), maybe that wasn't enough. I'll review how to list similar Russian launches in the future (maybe list the most probable LV but leave the payload as Unknown, with usual disclaimers - this is how I list most of Chinese launches these days where data are usually close to 0 pre-launch).
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Launch has occured at 06:40 UTC.

https://tass.ru/armiya-i-opk/17346735
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2023-040A/55978 in 338 x 499 km x 97.64
Similar orbit to the initial Bars-M#3 orbit

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https://twitter.com/katlinegrey/status/1638840632826380290

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And now they reported the launch was successful, the satellite is in orbit and is working.

https://t.me/roscosmos_gk/8860

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The video shows it to be from Site 43/3 (new Red-White colour lightning towers).
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2023-040A/55978 in 338 x 499 km x 97.64
Similar orbit to the initial Bars-M#3 orbit

These were the initial orbit parameters for the first three Bars-M satellites:
339x566 km
327x540 km
338x556 km

So the apogee is significantly lower this time. We should see a couple of burns the coming days to circularize the orbit.

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2023-040A/55978 in 338 x 499 km x 97.64
Similar orbit to the initial Bars-M#3 orbit

These were the initial orbit parameters for the first three Bars-M satellites:
339x566 km
327x540 km
338x556 km

So the apogee is significantly lower this time. We should see a couple of burns the coming days to circularize the orbit.

It turns out that Bars-M N3 (Kosmos-2556) significantly lowered its orbit last summer (from about 560 km to 500 km), something which has not happened before with these satellites. Currently, it is in a 496x508 km orbit. Apparently, it was decided to operate them at lower altitudes to improve their resolution. This would explain why the apogee of the insertion orbit is lower this time.

By the way, the first two Bars-M satellites (Kosmos-2503 and 2515) don't seem to have maneuvered in quite some time and are probably no longer operational.

 

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