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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #80 on: 09/12/2023 02:15 pm »
https://twitter.com/cnunezimages/status/1701564765699543523

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #81 on: 09/23/2023 06:25 pm »
SpaceX has a water treatment facility at Massey’s. Does anyone have information on this?
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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #82 on: 10/04/2023 10:09 pm »
https://twitter.com/rgvaerialphotos/status/1709600495831040403

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #84 on: 11/06/2023 05:33 pm »
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Down at the Massey's Test Site, the "top hat" has been placed on the structure that will be used to test flight-like forces on S24.2.
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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #85 on: 11/15/2023 05:42 am »
https://twitter.com/rgvaerialphotos/status/1724587577246666988

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A new tank has showed up to Masseys. Spotted by @Irmaatilano01

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #86 on: 11/23/2023 06:01 pm »
Some new overhead views from the latest NSF video:


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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #87 on: 11/25/2023 12:14 am »
Interesting,  from the appearance of those heat exchangers it looks like they'll be installing a bunch more tanks.

Does anyone have an estimate of their current volume of tankage?

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #88 on: 11/25/2023 03:26 pm »
Interesting,  from the appearance of those heat exchangers it looks like they'll be installing a bunch more tanks.

Does anyone have an estimate of their current volume of tankage?

Some have thought that the heat exchangers indicates that they are going to do test fires there but I don't think so

I suspect that they are to cool off the LOX before and after tests so as to reduce boil-off and waste.

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #89 on: 11/25/2023 03:40 pm »
Interesting,  from the appearance of those heat exchangers it looks like they'll be installing a bunch more tanks.

Does anyone have an estimate of their current volume of tankage?

Some have thought that the heat exchangers indicates that they are going to do test fires there but I don't think so

I suspect that they are to cool off the LOX before and after tests so as to reduce boil-off and waste.
I don't think the cost of the LOX is much higher than the cost of the liguid Nitrogen you would need in order to cool it, and there is no difference in environmental damage between venting LOX and venting liquid Nitrogen.

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #91 on: 12/12/2023 06:06 pm »
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SpaceX has staged two large tanks at the KSC turn basin for loading onto a barge. These did not come from a pad and are likely sourced from the Roberts Road facility.

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #92 on: 12/12/2023 06:14 pm »

What are the odds that Spacex will move future ship testing to Masseys and gut the current sub orbital setup to use the entire space for the 2nd tower?

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #93 on: 12/12/2023 06:37 pm »
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These tanks have quite a long history for those that have been following Starbase. This is from July 30th 2022, Mary took a shot of one of these preparing for departure to KSC (full video: youtube.com/watch?v=OsBMAX…).

https://twitter.com/alexphysics13/status/1734656355632603327

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They were later seen at Launch Complex 39A seemingly not doing much other than just waiting. This picture is from aerial imagery by NOAA taken right after Hurricane Ian back in October 2022 (see this tweet: twitter.com/Harry__Strange…)

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Then a few weeks ago they were moved to Roberts Road and, as I pointed out on our latest flyover (screenshot from that on the tweet, full video here: youtube.com/watch?v=xXwmEv…), the tanks had been going back and forth between places.

https://twitter.com/alexphysics13/status/1734656362058223775

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So seeing the path they've taken, it's not surprising that they may be going back to Starbase given they're being staged at the turn basin. These are most likely headed to the new tank farm being built at the Massey Outpost.

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #94 on: 12/12/2023 06:51 pm »
Saturday's RGV video for Massey's shows that they have a pad poured already for those two.

Here, at 12:40:


« Last Edit: 12/12/2023 06:53 pm by alugobi »

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #95 on: 12/13/2023 07:50 am »
What are the odds that Spacex will move future ship testing to Masseys and gut the current sub orbital setup to use the entire space for the 2nd tower?
Well, maybe this is the beginning...
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Lots of cutting going on here. Is this the end for Test Stand A?

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It certainly looks like the end for Test Stand A now.

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« Last Edit: 12/13/2023 07:54 am by gsa »

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #96 on: 12/13/2023 03:37 pm »
What are the odds that Spacex will move future ship testing to Masseys and gut the current sub orbital setup to use the entire space for the 2nd tower?
Well, maybe this is the beginning...
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Lots of cutting going on here. Is this the end for Test Stand A?

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https://twitter.com/LabPadre/status/1734620661677535313
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It certainly looks like the end for Test Stand A now.

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I have been thinking for a few years that the suborbital pads and tank farm are redundant. 

Especially the tank farm.  Just route commodities from the orbital tanks if needed, plus it takes up a sizeable footprint.

If they can get licensed to do Ship, or a small subset of engines (not 33 raptors) at Massey's that could really help out.

If they are going to do that, or rework the suborbital pads, I think they need to include a flame bucket and deluge, there is no need to be blasting the entire surrounding area or exposing the vehicle to over pressures either.  Also, buckets and water are cheap.
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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #97 on: 12/24/2023 06:53 pm »
https://twitter.com/csi_starbase/status/1738911611237360028

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The new flame trench for Starship Static Fire testing at Massey’s looks like it will be roughly 200ft long, 60ft wide, and 60ft feet deep.

twitter.com/chrisk_91/status/1738914710710280583

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So, it is pretty much the same size as the one out in McGregor, TX (vertical test stand)

https://twitter.com/csi_starbase/status/1738915051908780402

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Yes but rectangular

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Re: SpaceX Texas Massey site Discussion and Updates
« Reply #98 on: 01/03/2024 10:20 pm »
https://twitter.com/groundtruthpics/status/1742598512510955608

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A new tank has arrived at Massey’s on this very windy of Wednesdays. This appears to be one of the two tanks that arrived via barge with the tower segment. January 3, 2024 #Starbase
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