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First to deploy their constellation...Generation 2 Starlink or Kuiper First?

Starlink Gen 2
25 (86.2%)
Kuiper Gen 1
4 (13.8%)

Total Members Voted: 29

Voting closed: 09/05/2022 01:45 am


Author Topic: First to deploy their constellation...Generation 2 Starlink or Kuiper First?  (Read 6240 times)

Offline Tywin

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Offline AmigaClone

I voted that Kuiper gen 1 has a chance of being fully launched before Starlink gen 2 (the 30,000 satellite constellation).

The reason is because I have not seen evidence that Starlink gen2 has been approved yet. Also, for now at least, SpaceX does not have permission to launch from Boca Chica, and the other potential launch sites are between the status of unfinished and not yet started.

Offline c4fusion

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I voted that Kuiper gen 1 has a chance of being fully launched before Starlink gen 2 (the 30,000 satellite constellation).

The reason is because I have not seen evidence that Starlink gen2 has been approved yet. Also, for now at least, SpaceX does not have permission to launch from Boca Chica, and the other potential launch sites are between the status of unfinished and not yet started.

Interesting, I read the OP as launching the first satellite of either Starlink gen 2 or Kuiper.  That being said, Starlink gen 2 is not the 30k satelites but rather filling out the 11k current slots with the giant Starship launched ones that are being launched soon(tm).

Offline AmigaClone

I voted that Kuiper gen 1 has a chance of being fully launched before Starlink gen 2 (the 30,000 satellite constellation).

The reason is because I have not seen evidence that Starlink gen2 has been approved yet. Also, for now at least, SpaceX does not have permission to launch from Boca Chica, and the other potential launch sites are between the status of unfinished and not yet started.

Interesting, I read the OP as launching the first satellite of either Starlink gen 2 or Kuiper.  That being said, Starlink gen 2 is not the 30k satelites but rather filling out the 11k current slots with the giant Starship launched ones that are being launched soon(tm).

Actually, per the documents filed with the FCC, SpaceX has consistently referred to Gen2 as the 30k satellite constellation, and the Starlink Gen 1 as the one being currently deployed.

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Last night's T-Mobile and SpaceX "Coverage Above and Beyond" announcement adds complexity to Gen 2. See cross-post:
Deserves own thread for the event and announcement(s):

I still think some form of Gen 2 will launch in 2022.
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Offline Alvian@IDN

Looks like we'll get an answer in less than 24 hours
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Offline Tommyboy

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And the answer has been given:
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl5-1-pl
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On Wednesday, December 28 at 4:34 a.m. ET, SpaceX launched 54 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station in Florida.

This was the eleventh launch and landing for this Falcon 9 first stage booster, which previously launched GPS III Space Vehicle 04, GPS III Space Vehicle 05, Inspiration4, Ax-1, Nilesat 301, and now six Starlink missions.

This launch marked the first of Starlink’s upgraded network. Under our new license, we are now able to deploy satellites to new orbits that will add even more capacity to the network. Ultimately, this enables us to add more customers and provide faster service – particularly in areas that are currently over-subscribed.

Offline su27k

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SpaceX is sort of cheating by launching v1 satellite into Gen2 orbit.

But then again this poll itself is full of ambiguity, like what does it mean by "first to deploy", does Kuiper test satellites count, etc.

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SpaceX is sort of cheating by launching v1 satellite into Gen2 orbit.

But then again this poll itself is full of ambiguity, like what does it mean by "first to deploy", does Kuiper test satellites count, etc.

Yes, but if we do count the two initial prototype Kuiper satellites as Gen 1, then SpaceX may still put up version 2.0 satellites before “KuiperSat-1” and “KuiperSat-2” are launched by ABL Space Systems.

And if we don't count the Kuiper test satellites as Gen 1 (which would be my interpretation) then SpaceX will definitely, barring some catastrophe, put up its Gen 2 satellites first.

Offline Alvian@IDN

Looks like we finally have an actual winner...
« Last Edit: 03/03/2023 09:55 pm by Alvian@IDN »
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Offline Robotbeat

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Looks like we finally have an actual winner...
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Looks like we finally have an actual winner...
No need to be cryptic. Say what you mean, with a link.
Starlink launch 6-1 (which took place on Monday of this week) carried 21 Starlink v2 Mini satellites. Unless Kuiper had a stealth launch I'm unaware of, that would make Starlink the winner here.

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