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Turkey in Space
« on: 08/23/2021 06:38 am »
Just learnt today about Turkey doing two launches last 26-29 October with their SR 0.1 sounding rocket.

"One of the leading🇹🇷#Turkey's defence  companies #Roketsan has completed launch series of its new SR-0.1 sounding #rockets in late October. Such an effort will reduce Turkey's dependence on foreign #Space #launch vehicles and technologically it will also help to build future #ICBM"

https://twitter.com/defencegeo/status/1326954990079004672
« Last Edit: 08/23/2021 06:46 am by Steven Pietrobon »
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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #1 on: 08/23/2021 06:45 am »
On 19 July, Delta V from Turkey launched their SORS hybrid sounding rocket.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/tech/turkey-successfully-tests-hybrid-probe-rocket-for-moon-mission

"The flight test of Turkey's probe rocket developed with hybrid engine technology is conducted in northern Sinop province, Turkey, July 19, 2021."
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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #2 on: 09/04/2021 09:53 am »
Turkey's first successful launch that passed the Karman Line was back to 2017 with TP0.1.

That was one staged solid fueled rocket. After that 7 more launched completed with some improvements. Last test (SR0.1) that reached to space completed in end of 2020. During the test producer Roketsan tested their 2 staged rocket. First stage was a solid engine, and second stage was pressure fed liquid fueled engine.

They also tested their RCS thrusters, fairings, multiple liquid engine ignition in space environment.

Their next plan is to launch another suborbital sounding rocket in 2022 (400km with 100 kg payload) and an orbit capable, 3 staged rocket in 2025 (200 kg to 550 km orbit)


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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #3 on: 09/04/2021 10:10 am »
On 19 July, Delta V from Turkey launched their SORS hybrid sounding rocket.

https://www.dailysabah.com/business/tech/turkey-successfully-tests-hybrid-probe-rocket-for-moon-mission

"The flight test of Turkey's probe rocket developed with hybrid engine technology is conducted in northern Sinop province, Turkey, July 19, 2021."

That hybrid engined sounding rocket stillnot reach the Karman Line.

They are wroking on two seperate project right now.

An hybrid engine to power a moon orbiter/impactor (planned en of 2023)

And an orbit capable rocket. Someting like TiSpace's Hapith rocket. (possibly in 2025-26)


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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #4 on: 09/05/2021 04:01 am »
Turkey's first successful launch that passed the Karman Line was back to 2017 with TP0.1.

Do you have launch dates for these launches? I couldn't find any information on TP 0.1, but here is some information on TP 0.2-1, TP 0.2-2 and TP 0.2-3.

"So I am inferring that the rocket, or the project is TP0.2  (something like Test Project(ile) 0.2?) and there were 3 launches:  2016-2017 TP0.2-1 probably failed, 2017 TP0.2-2 with 130 km apogee but no payload, and 2018 Dec 22  TP0.2-3 with similar apogee and a payload."

https://twitter.com/planet4589/status/1300147576944156678
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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #5 on: 09/05/2021 04:20 am »
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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #6 on: 09/05/2021 07:11 am »

Do you have launch dates for these launches? I couldn't find any information on TP 0.1, but here is some information on TP 0.2-1, TP 0.2-2 and TP 0.2-3.


Unfortunately we didn't have much information about TP 0.1. It is publicly announced in 2019.

But as we know It's a one staged rocket  ( reached 120 km apogee) with "stage seperation" test pod.

Also, from open sources, we know that they made 3 launches in 2018 , and 4 in 2020. I added a visual of the flight list from a university webinar (It is an open source webinar)

As we know, SR 0.1-1 and SR0.1-2 launched in October 2020. Company (Roketsan) and the space agency (TUA) said, they launched 4 rockets but we didn't have visual confirmation about other 2. (not in open sources as I know)

PS: Because slide is in Turkish let me summarize shortly:

2017: 1 launch
Apogee: 120 km
Stage: 1 stage
First reaching to space / first stage seperation

2018: 3 launch
Apogee: 130 km
Stage: 1 stage
First RCS Test

2020/1 : 2 launch
Apogee: 106 km
Stage: 1 stage
First trust vectoring

2020/2: 2 launch
Apogee: 136 km
Stage: 2 stages 1st solid 2nd liquid

First fairing seperation / First scientific payload / First multiple ingition test with a liquid engine
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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #7 on: 09/06/2021 06:26 am »
Thanks Gokhan P! I measure an average length to diameter ratio of 13.3 for the two SR 0.1 launches in 2020 from the twitter video. From your post, the 106 km launcher has a ratio of 13.1, while the 136 km launcher has a ratio of 14.3. So it could be the two 136 km launches haven't occurred yet or have not been reported.

Can you let us know the date of your slide? That will help us to work out if the 136 km launches have occurred or not. Thanks!
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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #8 on: 09/06/2021 04:15 pm »
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I measure an average length to diameter ratio of 13.3 for the two SR 0.1 launches in 2020 from the twitter video. From your post, the 106 km launcher has a ratio of 13.1, while the 136 km launcher has a ratio of 14.3. So it could be the two 136 km launches haven't occurred yet or have not been reported.

We haven't received any information about 2 launches from open sources. Company and agency just says "all launches were success".

Because that is the only public information we have, I can not confirm their results. But, I can just say that they didn't explode during lift off. Test site is relatively close to urban areas. If something went wrong during lift off, they can not hide it.


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Can you let us know the date of your slide? That will help us to work out if the 136 km launches have occurred or not. Thanks!

It's from an ITU (Istanbul Teknik Universitesi) webinar. March 2021.

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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #9 on: 10/07/2021 01:50 pm »
Roketsan revealed its future plans in a world space week webinar.

According to the webinar video, their future plans:

- No test planned this year

- First orbital flight planned in 2026 with 100 kg payload capacity

- Their design based similar to Atlas and Vulcan designs. For bigger payload, they add moar side boosters to the first stage.

- In the future they plan to design an all liquid fueled rocket with reusuability capability.


They also published a new animation about their micro satellite launch vehicle (100 kg to 400 km LEO). (Not in English)



time stamp: 34:58 (not know why the time stamp not work)





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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #10 on: 10/08/2021 06:37 am »
Launch sequence from video. Three stage vehicle. The third stage is ignited twice and has a blue flame, indicating use of liquid propellants. The first two stages appear to be solid.
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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #11 on: 10/08/2021 03:42 pm »
FYI, there is a thread just for Roketsan, although it hasn't been used since 2019.

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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #12 on: 04/10/2023 09:44 am »
https://tass.ru/kosmos/17486311

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Turkish Space Agency President Serdar Hüseyin Yıldırım said that his country’s first citizen will go to the International Space Station (ISS) for scientific research in November this year

https://socialbites.ca/latest-news/234341.html (in English)

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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #13 on: 06/10/2023 01:50 am »
FYI, there is a thread just for Roketsan, although it hasn't been used since 2019.

Guess we could continue to use this thread as general thread regarding Turkey apart from topics related to Roketsan built rockets, which are frankly most of any kind of rockets built and launched by Turkey.

So here belongs sounding rockets from Delta V, their other spacecrafts, etc.

For starters, the old UFS design is shown in the Gokturk thread. There also was a thread regarding new TUA roadmap from 2021 and their moon probe which is meant to be launched this year. Lastly a thread about their space agency, TUA I think that's about it for dedicated Turkish spaceflight threads.
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Re: Turkey in Space
« Reply #14 on: 06/17/2023 12:40 pm »
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their moon probe which is meant to be launched this year.

Moon mission delayed to 2024. This month, minister of technology said that "within 1.5 year we will reach to the moon".

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