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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2480 on: 12/04/2023 05:01 pm »

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2481 on: 12/04/2023 10:22 pm »
https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1731808057766592770

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Orbital Launch Mount (OLM) booster clamps are going back in! Another item ticked off the box before Booster 10 is sat on top!

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2482 on: 12/05/2023 12:22 am »
https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1731830636531286200

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And the Gateway to Mars sign is lit up.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2483 on: 12/05/2023 06:02 am »

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2484 on: 12/06/2023 12:01 pm »
https://twitter.com/enneps/status/1732184720031764853

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The Mechazilla Chopsticks have come to life again at Starbase, going up and down the Orbital Launch Tower (OLT) ahead pre launch testing for IFT-3

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2485 on: 12/07/2023 03:42 pm »
https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1732792294103781858

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While SpaceX's future Boosters and Ships shuffle around the Production Site, upgrades are taking place at the launch site, OLM, and Tank Farm ahead of Starship Flight 3.

➡️youtu.be/6VIaFmCIxMg

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2486 on: 12/09/2023 04:12 am »
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Over 3.5 hours, the chopsticks were raised, very slowly, up the tower today.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2487 on: 12/09/2023 05:28 am »
Do we know the reason for these walls? it looks like they may cause the "gust front" from the booster engine exhaust to rise away from the ground, thereby reducing the amount of dust and debris being picked up.

That might be one possibility. I believe it is due to security and camera coverage, but this is only the case on the West and North sides (highlighted in RED). The south and east sides do not have any walls.
All I will say is that the walls are multipurpose and there will eventually be more walls all of the way around the launch complex, however some sections will not all end up where one would currently expect based on the what everyone currently sees. They are being built in phases. Happenings elsewhere in Starbase with recently occurred out of state arrivals that will eventually end up moving to the launch complex is your biggest hint as to when the walls will fully connect end to end minus the required perimeter gates.

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I think it would be a mistake to construct a wall near the OLM and the orbital launch area. This is because the combination of engine blast and high-pressure steam (water vaporized) could have two effects. Firstly, it may blow over the wall, causing debris to land on the nature preserve. Secondly, similar to what happened during the helicopter extraction of Bin Laden, the router blowdown created a suction effect. This could potentially be detrimental to the initial seconds of the launch, as vaporized gases would be directed upwards and then inward towards the OLM instead of outward.

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Depends upon the selected distance from the center of the blast area and how they are designed along with many other factors. Also property lines can change in the future making your concerns less likely.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2488 on: 12/09/2023 06:07 am »
Do we know the reason for these walls? it looks like they may cause the "gust front" from the booster engine exhaust to rise away from the ground, thereby reducing the amount of dust and debris being picked up.

That might be one possibility. I believe it is due to security and camera coverage, but this is only the case on the West and North sides (highlighted in RED). The south and east sides do not have any walls.
All I will say is that the walls are multipurpose and there will eventually be more walls all of the way around the launch complex, however some sections will not all end up where one would currently expect based on the what everyone currently sees. They are being built in phases. Happenings elsewhere in Starbase with recently occurred out of state arrivals that will eventually end up moving to the launch complex is your biggest hint as to when the walls will fully connect end to end minus the required perimeter gates.

russianhalo117
I think it would be a mistake to construct a wall near the OLM and the orbital launch area. This is because the combination of engine blast and high-pressure steam (water vaporized) could have two effects. Firstly, it may blow over the wall, causing debris to land on the nature preserve. Secondly, similar to what happened during the helicopter extraction of Bin Laden, the router blowdown created a suction effect. This could potentially be detrimental to the initial seconds of the launch, as vaporized gases would be directed upwards and then inward towards the OLM instead of outward.

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Depends upon the selected distance from the center of the blast area and how they are designed along with many other factors. Also property lines can change in the future making your concerns less likely.

russianhalo117,
My response was directed toward the current property lines, but I agree that it could be done later after the property is expanded.  I've seen the expanded site plans.  The hurdles require SpaceX to get the Corp of Engineers, Wildlife Management, and wildlife advocates to agree to an expansion.  Thanks.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2489 on: 12/09/2023 02:08 pm »
https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1733503394898141638

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The Mechazilla Chopsticks were put through their paces as SpaceX prep for Booster 10 and Ship 28 testing at the launch site ahead of the third flight of Starship.

youtube.com/watch?v=7Iqq3i

Video from Sean Doherty (@SeanKD_Photos) and Starbase Live.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2490 on: 12/11/2023 04:56 pm »
https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1734270799547134049

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Busy Starbase:

Workers on SQD (Ship Quick Disconnect) Arm.
Starfactory work.
Four Ships in the High Bay.
Workers on the Orbital Launch Mount (OLM).

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Road closure window for a rollout. There are no imminent signs of a roll at this time, however.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2491 on: 12/12/2023 05:40 pm »
twitter.com/labpadre/status/1734620661677535313

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Lots of cutting going on here. Is this the end for Test Stand A?

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https://twitter.com/labpadre/status/1734620661677535313

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It certainly looks like the end for Test Stand A now.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2492 on: 12/12/2023 08:41 pm »
https://twitter.com/vickicocks15/status/1734676844585112023

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Bye bye SQD at Pad B! More exciting than watching the bays when they came down at the build site I reckon!
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2493 on: 12/12/2023 09:14 pm »
https://twitter.com/vickicocks15/status/1734676844585112023

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Bye bye SQD at Pad B! More exciting than watching the bays when they came down at the build site I reckon!
@LabPadre #LabCam

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EDIT...Pad A

That reminds me of two former dictators' statues coming down (Iraq and The Empire-Star Wars).
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2494 on: 12/13/2023 04:52 pm »
https://twitter.com/thejackbeyer/status/1734978593959428565

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Crews worked to fix the Ship QD and its mount, the Booster QD was tested, and scrapping of Suborbital Pad A began.

Video from Sean (@SeanKD_Photos), and Starbase Live for @NASASpaceflight.

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2495 on: 12/15/2023 11:07 am »
https://twitter.com/vickicocks15/status/1735612777803194413

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It appears that SpaceX have begun the process of hooking up the new horizontal tanks at the OTF. Vapour was seen from in front of the tanks over a few hours last night, (and still going) suggesting that maybe they are purging the new pipework.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2496 on: 12/15/2023 02:47 pm »
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SpaceX is moving a Starship Launch Tower section to the turn basin at the Kennedy Space Center. This should be section #7 of the entire structure of the tower and it is expected to be headed to Starbase for the second Launch Tower at South Texas.

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https://twitter.com/alexphysics13/status/1735682625858117994

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The tower section is being staged next to the tanks that were moved there earlier this week. Also notice the nice Christmas bow on the tower for extra decoration :)

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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2497 on: 12/15/2023 02:48 pm »
twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1735682451681280451

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Starship Tower sections rolling at KSC!

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Edit to add:

https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1735689694078292418

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And there's the barge:
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2498 on: 12/15/2023 05:23 pm »
https://twitter.com/vickicocks15/status/1735714401397686277

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The first of the new hoses has been lifted, and is being fitted to the rear of the BQD.
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Re: SpaceX Texas launch site Discussion and Updates - Thread 12
« Reply #2499 on: 12/15/2023 08:29 pm »
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For those who keep asking. The next integration tower destined for Starbase will be the same height as the other two. This can already be confirmed.

There is currently no need to increase the height of these towers.

https://twitter.com/csi_starbase/status/1735737189080711385

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Also, the purpose of adding additional towers is to support the launch cadence required for the Artemis missions. It is not to create a catch only tower.

In order to catch a booster, a launch mount is needed to place the booster back down and safe the vehicle. There will be residual fuel in the tanks (even if its only fumes) and this will need to be purged with nitrogen provided by the OLM in order to safe the vehicle after landing.

It can not be placed directly onto a transport stand.

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