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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #100 on: 05/25/2022 10:53 pm »
At an AIAA Adelaide Section presentation last night by Reg Carruthers from DefenceSA, he mentioned that the next AtSpace launch from Whalers Way is "midyear" and "in the next few months".
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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #101 on: 05/25/2022 11:23 pm »
At an AIAA Adelaide Section presentation last night by Reg Carruthers from DefenceSA, he mentioned that the next AtSpace launch from Whalers Way is "midyear" and "in the next few months".

They've been ready to go for a long time now.. so presumably they're waiting on approvals??  The red tape on all this is extraordinary!

Can't wait.
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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #102 on: 07/19/2022 08:26 pm »
In fact (continuing the placement of certain threads between here and the Commercial subforum sparked by PLD's move) the very title of this thread, for instance, suggests this should go into Commercial too
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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #103 on: 08/15/2022 01:23 am »
Posted recently on LinkedIn:
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  Founder/Director and CEO Dr YenSen Chen showcased a range of items including a new water deluge pipe system designed by ATSpace engineers and manufactured by Contract Engineering SA, an ablative shield for a vertical launcher, and their large composite winding machine – just to name a few. Dr Chen also highlighted that the company’s current suppliers are about 50% Australian and 50% international, but they are expecting this figure to grow to around 80% Australian by the end of 2022!

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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #104 on: 02/28/2023 05:58 am »
Righto.. weeks have passed with no news since ATSpace's VS02/03 aborted launch attempt last December.

Anyone know what's happening with these guys?
 
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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #105 on: 06/10/2023 12:14 am »
Was wondering what's going on with TiSpace/ATSpace as well and searched for some more recent news. Their founder wrote this on Linkedin at the end of last year :

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As 2023 is approaching, it’s time for ATSPACE to reflect what we have accomplished in 2022. To mention a few, we have demonstrated the performance of our team, our hybrid rocket engines and the launch vehicle systems as described below:
1. Performed a 140KN maximum thrust 72 sec hot fire test for a single first-stage engine of Kestrel V orbital launch vehicle;
2. Performed a 10KN thrust 120 sec with an innovative regenerative cooled nozzle for the upper-stage engine of Kestrel V;
3. Performed a series of successful stage-level four-engine wet dress rehearsals and full-burn vertical hot-fire tests for the Kestrel I suborbital launch vehicle;
4. Conducted professional launch campaigns of Kestrel I near the year end, which will be continued in early 2023;
5. initiated a technology demonstration sounding rocket program for fast turnaround in building up flight heritage;
6. Preparing for the first-stage propulsion verification tests of the Kestrel V orbital launch vehicle — aiming at its maiden flight in 2023.
Overall, ATSPACE has built a firm technical foundation in 2022 for space exploration. And, with the collaborations with our partners and assistance from all stakeholders, we shall complete the last mile in our exciting journey into space from Australia. Stay tuned…..

Apart from that, seems like the company still exists and for some reason, the US defence industry delegation to Taiwan visited them last month.
https://ec.ltn.com.tw/article/breakingnews/4287320
https://www.us-taiwan.org/2023-us-taiwan-business-council-defense-delegation-to-taiwan/

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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #106 on: 06/10/2023 07:31 am »
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... what we have accomplished in 2022 ...

5. initiated a technology demonstration sounding rocket program for fast turnaround in building up flight heritage;
6. Preparing for the first-stage propulsion verification tests of the Kestrel V orbital launch vehicle — aiming at its maiden flight in 2023.

This is total BS. The "technology demonstration sounding rocket program" actually was initiated years ago. It was called "Hapith I", now "Kestrel I". Three of those rockets were built, and none of them lifted off the pad.

The plan is:

1. successfully launch Kestrel I
2. finish development of Kestrel V, which realistically will take some more years
3. launch Kestrel  V

Which means Kestrel V would optimistically  launch NET 2026.

A video from a couple weeks ago say's they'll be 'ready for orbital launch in early 2020

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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #107 on: 05/24/2024 03:50 am »
Taiwanese company TiSPACE launch vehicle "Hapith V" had beed made.
Full size rocket product, will get first launch in next year.


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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #108 on: 05/24/2024 04:14 am »
Taiwanese company TiSPACE launch vehicle "Hapith V" had beed made.
Full size rocket product, will get first launch in next year.

That's a mock-up - not the real thing.. but it is nice to know they're still planning for launch next year.  :)
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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #109 on: 12/18/2024 03:50 pm »
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/taiwanese-rocket-startup-may-be-early-test-japans-space-hub-plans-2024-07-25/

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A Taiwanese startup aims to become the first foreign firm to launch a rocket from Japan by early next year [...]

The private firm, co-founded in 2016 by current and former officials from Taiwan's space agency, has not had a successful launch. Its most recent attempt to fly a rocket, via its sister company AtSpace in Australia in 2022, failed because of an oxidizer leak. The rocket to be tested in Japan is a different design.

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He said the firm is waiting on one last regulatory approval, a radio permit that will enable the launch of the company's 12-metre (39 ft) sounding rocket, which he hopes will occur by early 2025. A sounding rocket can reach space but does not achieve orbit.

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TiSpace is the only Taiwanese company attempting launches. One of the company's other co-founders, Wu Jong-shinn, is now the head of Taiwan's space agency. The agency declined to comment on its relationship with TiSpace and said all its launch services are conducted through public tender.

The company's endeavour has won support among Japanese space businesses, especially in the remote agricultural town of Taiki, on the northern island of Hokkaido, which will host the launch. Officials and experts cite the benefits of inviting foreign companies.

Yuko Nakagawa, a ruling-party lawmaker representing Taiki and neighbouring communities, said TiSpace's project was "a symbol of Taiwan-Japan friendship" and a tailwind for an international business complex that local officials call a "space Silicon Valley".

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Yoshinori Odagiri, the chief executive of Space Cotan, which operates the Hokkaido Spaceport in Taiki, said a couple of European companies have expressed interest in its launch complex.

Tadashi Morimitsu, a local official in southwestern Oita prefecture, another budding space hub in Japan, which is partnering with U.S. spaceplane company Sierra Space, said TiSpace's progress in Hokkaido encapsulates a "welcome phenomenon" of overseas space businesses using Japanese spaceports.

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If TiSpace's test launch is successful, the company said it plans to expand its manufacturing capacity in Japan to serve Japanese customers.

One such potential client, Hokkaido-based Letara, has already inquired about whether TiSpace can carry its satellite propulsion system to space for testing.

"We don't ask if the company is domestic or foreign, as long as they can launch," said Letara co-founder Shota Hirai.

So it seems like TiSpace (or ATSpace for Aussies) have changed their course for Australia to Japan. Makes sense considering recent space cooperation between Japan and Taiwan. Launch site would be Hokkaido Spaceport it seems. Horiemon would be quite please to see another company share the burden of developing a full-fledged launch facility, I could imagine.

Also, concerning the part about TiSpace-TASA ties, I guess Taiwan wants to pursue a private-public competitive design and development framework? There are ARRC team (university lab spin-off, now core to TASA's own effort) and TiSpace team (former Taiwanese government programme based spin-off, spiritual successor to initial Taiwanese SLV efforts), so it's understandable, but I'm not sure if going two-track is a viable option for country as small as Taiwan.
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Re: tiSpace-Taiwanese commercial launch company
« Reply #110 on: 12/20/2024 05:22 am »
The TiSpace website now only lists Hapith V, so this is presumably the rocket they will launch from Japan.

https://www.tispace.com/en/technology/hapith-v

The AtSpace website still lists both the Kestrel I and Kestrel V, equivalent to Hapith I and V. The website was last updated in 2022.

http://atspace.com.au/kestrel

Southern Launch still list the two AtSpace launches VS02 and VS03 and a Kestrel V launch on their manifest, but with the launch dates TBC.

https://www.southernlaunch.space/upcoming-missions
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