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SpaceX Washington Facilities
« on: 08/06/2018 03:02 pm »
Hello all!
Decided to make this thread as there is no other threads dedicated to these facilities. And a place to post my pictures.

I recently went on a road trip through Washington, stopping by the spacex offices in Redmond, aswell as a warehouse where starlink satellites are alegedly being tested and built. Images attached below! (Taken on a Sunday so not much going on.)

Thanks all!

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #1 on: 08/07/2018 03:00 pm »
FWIW, I live less than a mile from the Redmond SpaceX office. I don't expect we'll ever see anything worth photographing from the outside of the building, but I'll keep my ears open if I hear about anything worth checking into...
 
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #2 on: 08/10/2018 01:35 am »
Hello all!
Decided to make this thread as there is no other threads dedicated to these facilities. And a place to post my pictures.

I recently went on a road trip through Washington, stopping by the spacex offices in Redmond, aswell as a warehouse where starlink satellites are alegedly being tested and built. Images attached below! (Taken on a Sunday so not much going on.)

Thanks all!

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Fixed the image rotation on your images (apparently Nasaspaceflight Forums cannot parse EXIF rotation data) and losslessly shrunk them some and stripped metadata.
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #3 on: 08/10/2018 05:37 pm »
Did you also visit Blue Origin facilities in Kent, Washington?   When I was commuting to work in Seattle via train, it passed very close to their facilities with a better view of the 'backyard' than could be seen from any local street.  There are bermed structures in the back that suggest propulsion tests of limited size could be conducted there.

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #4 on: 09/06/2018 11:53 am »
I was by the SpaceX Redmond building a couple of times last week.  The parking lot was empty, even on a weekday.

Very unlike when I was there in April 2018:  parking lot crowded and full, both early and late!

(I have photos from both times, if there is any interest.)
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #5 on: 09/06/2018 05:25 pm »
I was by the SpaceX Redmond building a couple of times last week.  The parking lot was empty, even on a weekday.

Very unlike when I was there in April 2018:  parking lot crowded and full, both early and late!

(I have photos from both times, if there is any interest.)
Any chance they moved? Else this is rather odd.
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #6 on: 09/06/2018 05:33 pm »
I was by the SpaceX Redmond building a couple of times last week.  The parking lot was empty, even on a weekday.

Very unlike when I was there in April 2018:  parking lot crowded and full, both early and late!

(I have photos from both times, if there is any interest.)

Just checking that it wasn't Monday, which was a holiday...

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #7 on: 09/07/2018 06:14 am »
No, it wasn't a Monday.  I was only in that area Tues-Thurs; pretty sure took the photo Thursday, but had noticed it on other days.

One local thought they might have moved to another of their (now) several buildings in Redmond. 

Perhaps the local on this thread who lives near there (Noel / @NWade) might help sort it for us.  :)
« Last Edit: 09/07/2018 06:15 am by Llian Rhydderch »
Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #8 on: 09/10/2018 02:38 pm »
I was by the SpaceX Redmond building a couple of times last week.  The parking lot was empty, even on a weekday.

Very unlike when I was there in April 2018:  parking lot crowded and full, both early and late!

(I have photos from both times, if there is any interest.)

Not sure if relevant to this, but I see 6 jobs open for Redmond, WA. All were posted 4 days ago

https://www.linkedin.com/jobs/search/?f_C=30846&f_GC=us.7-3-0-17-24&keywords=spacex&location=United%20States&locationId=us%3A0

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #9 on: 10/22/2018 04:59 am »
I have confirmed that SpaceX have moved out of their original Seattle-area facility at 18390 NE 68th St, Redmond, Washington.

Went by a couple of times last week, and the parking lot was empty each time.

Sign on the door:
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"SpaceX HAS RELOCATED
OUR NEW LOCATION:
22908 NE ALDER CREST DR, REDMOND   WA, 98053"

(with photo of Starman transiting Earth in his Tesla Roadster below the text)

I have photos, but haven't figured out how to post them.
Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #10 on: 10/22/2018 05:46 am »

OUR NEW LOCATION:
22908 NE ALDER CREST DR, REDMOND   WA, 98053"


would be here and there is another SpaceX facility in the second building to the right, at 23020 NE Alder Crest Dr, Redmond, WA 98053.

NEW LOCATION

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #11 on: 10/23/2018 03:43 am »
I took photos of the new buildings this morning. 

Someone tell me the formula for copying images in here without them being on a website, and I drop a few in.
Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
"You would actually save yourself time and effort if you were to use evidence and logic to make your points instead of wrapping yourself in the royal mantle of authority.  The approach only works on sheep, not inquisitive, intelligent people."

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #12 on: 10/23/2018 05:04 am »
Here's an image from the OLD Redmond location with the (now) empty parking lot,
along with a photo of the note on the door.

Hat tip to Misha Vargas for pointing out I should not use the insert image button, but rather add attachment!
« Last Edit: 10/23/2018 05:06 am by Llian Rhydderch »
Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
"You would actually save yourself time and effort if you were to use evidence and logic to make your points instead of wrapping yourself in the royal mantle of authority.  The approach only works on sheep, not inquisitive, intelligent people."

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #13 on: 10/23/2018 11:47 am »

OUR NEW LOCATION:
22908 NE ALDER CREST DR, REDMOND   WA, 98053"


would be here and there is another SpaceX facility in the second building to the right, at 23020 NE Alder Crest Dr, Redmond, WA 98053.

NEW LOCATION



Interesting how the new facilities are right beside Triumph Aerospace's Seattle location.

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #14 on: 10/23/2018 01:16 pm »
The new SpaceX Redmond facilities seems to be about three buildings.  And they span both sides of the Triumph building.

At the first building (22908 NE Alder Crest Dr), following a sign, and instructions, to get to shipping and receiving, I went across the entire Triumph parking lot to get to a couple other SpaceX buildings, also on Alder Crest Drive.

... then I got chased away by a polite guy wearing dark clothes with a radio mic on his sweater.   :o
He suggested pictures were not allowed.    :-X

Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
"You would actually save yourself time and effort if you were to use evidence and logic to make your points instead of wrapping yourself in the royal mantle of authority.  The approach only works on sheep, not inquisitive, intelligent people."

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #15 on: 10/23/2018 01:58 pm »
The new SpaceX Redmond facilities seems to be about three buildings.  And they span both sides of the Triumph building.

At the first building (22908 NE Alder Crest Dr), following a sign, and instructions, to get to shipping and receiving, I went across the entire Triumph parking lot to get to a couple other SpaceX buildings, also on Alder Crest Drive.

... then I got chased away by a polite guy wearing dark clothes with a radio mic on his sweater.   :o
He suggested pictures were not allowed.    :-X



We all should always honor requests like that, it makes it better for everyone if SpaceX fans don't get the 'foamer" reputation that some railfans got ...  stay out of parking lots and private property unless invited.

That said, if on public property, pictures are allowed.

Glad you figured out how to attach things.

Also, this move probably was disruptive to their operations but better sooner than later... AND it means that the somewhat panicked posts (about empty parking lots on weekdays) earlier were false alarms, thankfully.

Good sleuthing.
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #16 on: 10/26/2018 05:45 am »
SpaceX neighbor, Triumph Aerospace

Seattle, WA
Integrated Systems – Electronics & Control – Seattle
The systems engineering and integration focal for Triumph Group companies, specializing in motion, control & power systems for commercial and military aircraft & rotorcraft.                  
                  
FACILITY DETAILS      
Address
      22922 NE Alder Crest Dr. Redmond, WA 98053
      Facility Size
      42,000 sq. ft.
      FAI Capability      
KEY PRODUCTS      
•   Multi axis motion control & power systems
   •   Primary & auxiliary landing gear systems
   •   Hydraulic systems architecture
   •   Cargo & cowl door actuation systems
   •   Aircraft data bus & control panels
   •   Actuators & control electronics
CERTIFICATIONS
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Engineering
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42,000 sqft seems to refer to the single building (Standard Process NW, a Nutitional Suppliment company occupies the other paired building), so the roughly similar sized SpaceX buildings likely have about 80k sqft.
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #17 on: 10/26/2018 07:58 am »
We all should always honor requests like that, it makes it better for everyone if SpaceX fans don't get the 'foamer" reputation that some railfans got ...  stay out of parking lots and private property unless invited.

Emphasis mine.

You might wanna parse that in plain English for us ignoramuses from accross the big pond?

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« Reply #18 on: 10/26/2018 08:17 am »
We all should always honor requests like that, it makes it better for everyone if SpaceX fans don't get the 'foamer" reputation that some railfans got ...  stay out of parking lots and private property unless invited.

Emphasis mine.

You might wanna parse that in plain English for us ignoramuses from across the big pond?

How about this?: "it makes it better for everyone if SpaceX fans don't get the rabid fan reputation that some railfans got"


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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #19 on: 10/26/2018 08:19 am »
We all should always honor requests like that, it makes it better for everyone if SpaceX fans don't get the 'foamer" reputation that some railfans got ...  stay out of parking lots and private property unless invited.

Emphasis mine.

You might wanna parse that in plain English for us ignoramuses from accross the big pond?

In the UK that would be the more obsessive Train Spotters who trespass on to the railway tracks to get photos of locomotives etc. making a complete nuisance of them selves.


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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #20 on: 10/26/2018 04:32 pm »
We all should always honor requests like that, it makes it better for everyone if SpaceX fans don't get the 'foamer" reputation that some railfans got ...  stay out of parking lots and private property unless invited.

Emphasis mine.

You might wanna parse that in plain English for us ignoramuses from accross the big pond?

In the UK that would be the more obsessive Train Spotters who trespass on to the railway tracks to get photos of locomotives etc. making a complete nuisance of them selves.
Anoraks, I heard.

Foamer has a somewhat different connotation, it also carries a bit of "very annoying to talk to because they gush about stuff that's a boring part of our daily job" and it's an appellation the railroaders give us, not one the general public does.

But that's a bit off topic. sorry.
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #21 on: 10/29/2018 12:01 am »
SpaceX at 22908 NE Alder Crest Drive, Redmond, Washington
Ground-level photos
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #22 on: 10/29/2018 12:07 am »
SpaceX at 22908 NE Alder Crest Drive, Redmond, Washington
Ground-level photos, group 2

« Last Edit: 10/29/2018 12:14 am by Llian Rhydderch »
Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
"You would actually save yourself time and effort if you were to use evidence and logic to make your points instead of wrapping yourself in the royal mantle of authority.  The approach only works on sheep, not inquisitive, intelligent people."

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #23 on: 10/29/2018 12:17 am »
Triumph Aerospace building, 22922 NE Alder Crest Drive, Redmond, Washington.
Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
"You would actually save yourself time and effort if you were to use evidence and logic to make your points instead of wrapping yourself in the royal mantle of authority.  The approach only works on sheep, not inquisitive, intelligent people."

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« Reply #24 on: 10/29/2018 05:49 am »
Thanks for the photos.... Does anyone know the (approx) size (sq foot) difference between their old facility and this one.... Is this still mostly office and design and perhaps prototype building or is this big enough for them to build out the actual production line for their thousands of satellites? if not, where would they build said satellite factory?

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« Reply #25 on: 10/29/2018 09:21 am »
Looking at commercial property listings, square footage is only slightly larger: 39,000 (new) vs 36,000 (old).

Looking at Google Maps aerial view, the ground footprint is substantially bigger at the new place, and there are far fewer windows.

That suggests fewer floors with higher ceilings. More light industrial/warehouse space and less cubical farm.

And that suggests that they're going to build *something* there, but may not have as many desk workers on-site as originally envisioned (consistent with the vanishing job reqs).

Is it big enough to build satellites by the thousands? My total guess is no, but your guess is as good as mine. It would depend on how long and deep the assembly line is, how many stations, how many in-progress at the same time, etc.

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #26 on: 10/31/2018 04:50 am »
The new SpaceX Redmond facilities seems to be about three buildings.  And they span both sides of the Triumph building.

At the first building (22908 NE Alder Crest Dr), following a sign, and instructions, to get to shipping and receiving, I went across the entire Triumph parking lot to get to a couple other SpaceX buildings, also on Alder Crest Drive.

... then I got chased away by a polite guy wearing dark clothes with a radio mic on his sweater.   :o
He suggested pictures were not allowed.    :-X



We all should always honor requests like that, it makes it better for everyone if SpaceX fans don't get the 'foamer" reputation that some railfans got ...  stay out of parking lots and private property unless invited.

That said, if on public property, pictures are allowed.

Glad you figured out how to attach things.

Also, this move probably was disruptive to their operations but better sooner than later... AND it means that the somewhat panicked posts (about empty parking lots on weekdays) earlier were false alarms, thankfully.

Good sleuthing.

There's a sidewalk next to the building. Depending on local laws the easement in between the sidewalk and the road is public property, so if you stand there a picture should be fine.
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #27 on: 11/01/2018 03:12 am »
Looking at the photos Ludus added:


my take is that SpaceX now has the first and the third and the fourth buildings leased, counting from left.  Triumph Aerospace has the lease on the second building.

The first building alone would seem to offer more development space than they had at their previous location, prior to the move in August.  The other two buildings, the ones I called third and fourth, would seem to support a thesis that they are for manufacturing and testing lots of sats, not merely designing and design testing them. 

Re arguments from authority on NSF:  "no one is exempt from error, and errors of authority are usually the worst kind.  Taking your word for things without question is no different than a bracket design not being tested because the designer was an old hand."
"You would actually save yourself time and effort if you were to use evidence and logic to make your points instead of wrapping yourself in the royal mantle of authority.  The approach only works on sheep, not inquisitive, intelligent people."

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #28 on: 08/06/2020 02:20 am »
Other business took me to that area today and I went past for a look. Not much to report other than a sign at the recreation area across the street indicating SpaceX might sometimes be filling their own car parking area.
Also  of note, there's a construction project underway in an adjacent region. No reason to think it's related to SpaceX though.
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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #29 on: 07/27/2022 09:21 am »
Sorry for the bump, but I was browsing Google Maps the other day looking at street view... when I noticed a Street View Panorama right at the SpaceX Redmond building...

This is a panorama on top of V1 Dishy, with the cable going into the building:

https://goo.gl/maps/CAkTpiP7WxQm5VN67

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Re: SpaceX Washington Facilities
« Reply #30 on: 07/28/2022 04:26 am »
I haven’t gotten any new pictures but I drive by here frequently and there is a whole new black and white building with a SpaceX logo on it close by the original brick building that still has a SpaceX logo on it. I’ll try to get a photo when I get back home.

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