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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #40 on: 08/14/2020 02:16 pm »
Does anybody know of a site that compares the dimensions and masses of the current crop of robotic lunar landers? I'm interested in the ones from Astrobotic, Intuitive Machines, and the Israeli and Indian ones.

I've seen an indication that the Surveyor lander was 3.5 meters in height, which makes it a lot higher than this ispace lander, although it's just a bit confusing.

The Surveyer lander overall height is probably 3.5 meters. That is at the top of mast with the planar antenna fully elevated. The spacecraft chassis is about a meter high from the photos of astronauts standing next to it. So the HAKUTO-R appears to be twice as high as the Surveyer when comparing spacecraft chassis.



Yeah, I was thinking that. I don't know how they compare in terms of landing pad to landing pad.

This isn't important or anything, I'm just trying to get an understanding of relative sizes for all these different vehicles.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #41 on: 08/20/2020 01:11 pm »
https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1296433988270280705

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Japanese lunar lander startup ispace raised $28 million in its latest round led by Incubate Fund, Space Frontier Fund, Takasago Thermal Engineering and Mitsui Sumitomo Insurance — bringing its total fundraising to ~$125 million to date.
https://ispace-inc.com/news/?p=1681

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #42 on: 08/20/2020 02:06 pm »


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ispace is developing a data-centric platform to support industry players with lunar market entry. We’ve labeled this endeavor “Blueprint Moon”. Under this platform, companies can use our services to both design and deliver their business to the Moon.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #43 on: 08/21/2020 01:05 pm »
That's a well-done video. But it's based upon the assumption that this "lunar economy" is going to happen, which is an assumption that all those "planned" lunar missions are real and not just talk. Most of the "private" missions are actually proposals to provide services for government projects.* So, for instance, supporting the automotive companies interested in developing vehicles for the Moon requires that those automotive companies get paid by a government to develop their vehicle, and subsequently they pay the lunar lander company to develop materials and test equipment. If a government doesn't fund it in the first place, none of that other stuff happens. Even worse, despite the claim of a lot of international interest in lunar missions, that doesn't mean there's much of an international market. For instance, assuming that China wants to build a big human lunar base, they're not going to pay a Japanese company to fly experiments for them. Unless that initial development money is spent by the Japanese government, it's unlikely that a Japanese company is going to get paid by other countries. Of course, CLPS is no different.

Still, it's a nice video.








*Apologies for the use of all the quotation marks, but it's the only way I know to indicate that these things are talk and not real.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #44 on: 08/21/2020 01:31 pm »
"Within the next ten years, there are already over 60 scheduled missions to the Moon."

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #45 on: 11/10/2020 12:48 pm »
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Japanese lunar lander start-up ispace to open US office in Denver
PUBLISHED TUE, NOV 10 20208:38 AM EST

Michael Sheetz
@THESHEETZTWEETZ

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Japanese lunar exploration start-up ispace on Monday announced plans to expand operations in the U.S., saying it is establishing an office in Denver, Colorado.

“In order to be competitive in [the space] industry, having the business in the United States is a big part,” ispace CEO Takeshi Hakamada told CNBC.

The company received approval to establish a U.S. office through the Commerce Department’s SelectUSA program, which assists with foreign direct investments.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/11/10/japanese-lunar-lander-start-up-ispace-to-open-us-office-in-denver.html

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #46 on: 11/10/2020 08:07 pm »
Blackstar posted this from the video linked above: "Within the next ten years, there are already over 60 scheduled missions to the Moon."

It would be nice to know what those missions in the posted graphic are.  Looking at next year we have CAPSTONE, Astrobotic and Intuitive Machines that I am aware of.  So what are the other 5?  I suppose they are Artemis-1 smallsats like Flashlight and OMOTENASHI.  OK, fair enough, they might manage to fly in 2021.  But what about the next few years?
Those numbers look dubious to me, but any suggestions would be welcome.  Are there any cubesats on Artemis-2?
« Last Edit: 11/10/2020 08:08 pm by Phil Stooke »

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #47 on: 11/10/2020 10:08 pm »
Blackstar posted this from the video linked above: "Within the next ten years, there are already over 60 scheduled missions to the Moon."

It would be nice to know what those missions in the posted graphic are.

I was being very sarcastic when I posted that. I think that number is fantasy.

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« Reply #48 on: 11/11/2020 03:02 am »
I agree.  It's the video I am questioning.  I just wonder what those missions are supposed to be.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #49 on: 12/04/2020 01:39 pm »
See below:

NASA Selects Companies to Collect Lunar Resources for Artemis Demonstrations:
https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-selects-companies-to-collect-lunar-resources-for-artemis-demonstrations/

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NEW: We've selected the companies that will collect resources from the Moon, building knowledge for #Artemis and future missions to Mars. They are:

@LunarOutpostInc of Colorado
@MastenSpace of California
@ispace_inc of Europe
@ispace_inc of Japan

https://twitter.com/NASA/status/1334580720451399680

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #50 on: 12/04/2020 07:03 pm »
There's a lot of context necessary to understand that. One could ask why NASA named these four companies when it has its own companies as part of the CLPS program. This is more of a public relations exercise than anything real.

https://spacenews.com/nasa-selects-four-companies-for-lunar-sample-purchases/


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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #51 on: 12/09/2020 01:56 am »


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This is an introduction to the flight model design of the HAKUTO-R commercial lunar lander.
*The is the planned launch schedule updated as of July 2020.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #52 on: 12/14/2020 05:23 pm »
From the ispace press release here:

https://ispace-inc.com/news/?p=1806

comes this news on the landing site:

The landing site for [Mission 1], which is scheduled to launch in 2022, has changed from Lacus Mortis (“Lake of Death”) to Lacus Somniorum (“Lake of Dreams”), which has its center located at the lunar coordinates 38° N, 29.2° E. The location of the new landing site is more compatible to enable backup landing scenarios in case it is necessary. In addition, the new site’s terrain is relatively flat and safe to land, which is ideal for Mission 1 as a technology demonstration mission.


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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #53 on: 12/23/2020 10:23 am »


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ispace revealed the final design of its lunar lander that will be used in the first mission of the company’s “HAKUTO-R” program, a multinational commercial lunar exploration program.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #54 on: 07/20/2021 02:34 am »
https://www.timesofisrael.com/helios-to-hitch-ride-on-japan-lunar-lander-in-bid-to-make-oxygen-on-moon/
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The Japanese ambassador to Israel, Mizushima Koichi, hosted a signing ceremony between the Israeli and Japanese companies for the two memorandum of understandings (MoU), in which ispace will deliver Helios’ technology to the lunar surface onboard ispace’s lander by the end of 2023 and mid-2024.

Helios’ payloads, called Lunar Extractor – 1 and Lunar Extractor – 2, aim to demonstrate the production of oxygen and metals from the local resources.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #55 on: 08/24/2021 12:03 am »
ispace announced their Series 2 lander for their third mission planned in 2024

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« Reply #56 on: 08/24/2021 06:56 am »
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1430011473061896203

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A couple views of the full-scale model of ispace’s new, larger lunar lander on display at #SpaceSymposium (including people for scale.)

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #57 on: 01/21/2022 09:31 pm »
Plus Ultra’s lunar comsats to hitch rides on ispace moon landers [dated Jan. 21]

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Spanish-German startup Plus Ultra Space Outposts plans to deploy the bulk of its proposed lunar communications and navigation constellation with ispace, the Japanese lunar transportation venture selling accommodations on its moon-bound landers.

Plus Ultra and ispace announced a collaboration agreement Jan. 20 that includes the transport and deployment of Plus Ultra’s Harmony minisatellites as soon as 2024.

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Plus Ultra expects to launch its first satellite in late 2023 with German startup Rocket Factory Augsburg before hitching its first ride with ispace as part of the venture’s third lander mission.

That mission would mark the debut of the larger Series 2 lander that ispace unveiled in August during the 36th Space Symposium in Colorado Springs, Colorado.

According to ispace, its Series 2 lander will be capable of carrying 2,000 kilograms of payload to lunar orbit and 500 kilograms to the moon’s surface — significantly more than the 30 kilograms the first two Series 1 landers will be able to tote.

The Series 2 lander will be equipped with enough onboard propulsion to reach the moon on its own after separating from the rocket that launches it into space. The Series 2 lander is being designed and built in the United States to compete for contracts under NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services program.

Mission operation details are not being disclosed. However, the Series 2 lander’s 2,000 kilograms of carrying capacity to lunar orbit means that a single mission could potentially deploy more than one of the eight 400-kilogram satellites that Plus Ultra plans to send to the moon to provide communications and navigation services for visiting spacecraft.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #58 on: 04/22/2022 09:55 pm »
from https://spacenews.com/japans-ispace-negotiating-first-commercial-moon-landing-insurance/

The startup has signed a Memorandum of Understanding with Mitsui Sumitomo Insurance (MSI), a Tokyo-based firm that started working with ispace in 2019, to insure its first attempt to send a lander to the moon later this year.

The agreement outlines intentions to finalize terms for the insurance in the months leading up to ispace’s Mission 1 (M1), which is currently slated to fly on a Falcon 9 rocket no earlier than the fourth quarter of 2022.

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Re: ispace (Japan) Lunar Landers (HAKUTO-R)
« Reply #59 on: 05/31/2022 11:44 am »
Another integration milestone for our #lander! In this video, shot a few months ago, you can see the mating process in which our crew used care and precision to put the two main subassemblies of the lander together. Stay tuned for more recent updates!

https://twitter.com/ispace_inc/status/1531546214180786180

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