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NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« on: 05/11/2017 01:25 pm »
Unlike the Gokturk SLV - this one is liquid propelled:

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #1 on: 05/11/2017 01:55 pm »
Any info on propellants? Fuel:oxidiser volume ratio based on crude measurement of diagram is about 1:1.65. So definitely not hydrogen or light hydrocarbon, guess kerolox?

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #2 on: 05/11/2017 03:42 pm »
Any info on propellants? Fuel:oxidiser volume ratio based on crude measurement of diagram is about 1:1.65. So definitely not hydrogen or light hydrocarbon, guess kerolox?
Tal Inbar says on twitter that no extra info was provided other than what's in the poster. I've had a look at Roketsan's site, and it doesn't look like there's anything there either.

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #3 on: 05/11/2017 10:54 pm »
Any info on propellants? Fuel:oxidiser volume ratio based on crude measurement of diagram is about 1:1.65. So definitely not hydrogen or light hydrocarbon, guess kerolox?
That's the volumetric relationship of a gas generator kerosene lox engine (~2.3 O/F).

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #4 on: 05/12/2017 08:16 am »
Any info on propellants? Fuel:oxidiser volume ratio based on crude measurement of diagram is about 1:1.65. So definitely not hydrogen or light hydrocarbon, guess kerolox?
That's the volumetric relationship of a gas generator kerosene lox engine (~2.3 O/F).
Thought so, makes sense.

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
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« Reply #6 on: 11/08/2018 12:31 am »
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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #7 on: 11/08/2018 12:26 pm »
 Here's the original release (via google translate) from the SSB, unfortunately no timeframe is mentioned. They do have an image which afaik is new.
https://www.ssb.gov.tr/Website/contentList.aspx?PageID=1415&LangID=1
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SSB and Roketsan signed a contract for Micro Satellite Launch System (MUFS) Development Project. When the project is over, micro-satellites of 100 kilograms and below will be placed in the low-earth orbit with a height of at least 400 kilometers. Turkey, owned by the country of the world satellite launch, testing, will have gained the ability to produce infrastructure and bases.
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The project covers the development and testing of the Micro Satellite Launch System, which can accommodate micro-satellites of 100 kilograms and below, with a height of at least 400 kilometers in the Low Earth Trajectory. Under the contract, Roketsan will develop the Micro Satellite Launch Vehicle and install the test / production facilities and launch base. Thus, Turkey has few countries in the world where satellite launch, testing, will have gained the ability to produce infrastructure and bases.

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #8 on: 11/09/2018 04:54 am »
Where is Turkey going to launch from and in what direction? The country's location is not exactly favourable.
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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #9 on: 02/04/2019 06:09 pm »
Nature News: Turkey creates its first space agency https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00452-y
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The Space Technologies Research Institute of Turkey (TÜBİTAK–UZAY) and the Directorate General of Civil Aviation, a public body that regulates civil aerospace, will both see 20% of their budgets redirected to the agency. On the basis of their official 2019 budgets, this amount alone will add up to almost 30 million Turkish Liras (US$5.7 million).
The new agency will coordinate these agencies, as well as Turkish Aerospace Industries; Roketsan, a major Turkish rocket producer; and TÜRKSAT — a semi-private satellite organization, the order says.

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« Reply #10 on: 02/04/2019 06:35 pm »
Nature News: Turkey creates its first space agency https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-00452-y
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The Space Technologies Research Institute of Turkey (TÜBİTAK–UZAY) and the Directorate General of Civil Aviation, a public body that regulates civil aerospace, will both see 20% of their budgets redirected to the agency. On the basis of their official 2019 budgets, this amount alone will add up to almost 30 million Turkish Liras (US$5.7 million).
The new agency will coordinate these agencies, as well as Turkish Aerospace Industries; Roketsan, a major Turkish rocket producer; and TÜRKSAT — a semi-private satellite organization, the order says.

We hope they show in the next months, the new website and logo of this space agency...and more details, about her launcher...

And they increase the Science budget, 400 million of $ is not to much, and the space agency will have only a fraction of this...
« Last Edit: 02/04/2019 06:37 pm by Tywin »
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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #11 on: 02/05/2019 08:48 am »
As a recent member of the space agency club, congratulations to Turkey for creating their own agency!
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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #12 on: 02/05/2019 09:08 am »


Does this mean the race is on for which SLS will reach orbit first?

(ducks and runs)

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #13 on: 06/17/2019 08:14 pm »
Rocketsan display at Paris air show. Pictures from today

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #14 on: 06/18/2019 01:40 am »
Any information about her development on this rocket?

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #15 on: 08/10/2019 06:10 pm »
A little news about her space agency...

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Turkish Space Agency will encourage the country's private sector to invest in space technologies, said Head of the Agency Serdar Huseyn Yildirim, Trend reports referring to Turkish media.

https://en.trend.az/world/turkey/3102892.html

The new president of the space agency:

https://www.haber61.net/biyografi/serdar-huseyin-yildirim-kimdir-h364153.html


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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #16 on: 10/09/2021 10:11 am »
Where is Turkey going to launch from and in what direction? The country's location is not exactly favourable.

Answer for a very old question. (Learned this topic exist now)

For sounding rocket tests, Turkey using rocket test center in Sinop (A Black Sea City)

For orbital launches there are discussions continues about 3 options

Option 1: A small launch center at the shores of the Black Sea, Close to the Bulgaria. This option is not good for additional orbital velocity and possible Inclinations but Black Sea helps for a clear launch path.

Option 2: A launch site at the East side of the Africa. This option discussed with some countries. (Possibly Somalia)

Option 3: A sea launch system operates in Mediterranean Sea. A couple weeks ago Russia offered to operate a joint sea launch center to Turkey.
« Last Edit: 10/11/2021 07:00 am by Gokhan P »

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #17 on: 10/09/2021 04:23 pm »
The joint Russian Sea launch option sounds like the best. Benefits both countries too.

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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #18 on: 12/08/2021 11:19 am »
Micro Satellite Launch System (MUFS) is far in the future - first launch currently planned for 2026. They are now developing a technology test vehicle called "Sonda", launch NET 2023.

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The Sonde Rocket, which is targeted to be launched in 2023, will be a technology platform where MUFA technologies will be tested, with the ability to lift at least 100 kilograms of payload above an altitude of 300 kilometers.

https://www.defenceturk.net/roketsan-2026da-mufs-ile-yorungeye-mikro-uydu-gonderecek
https://www.defenceturk.net/mikro-uydu-firlatma-sistemi-mufs

This sounds like Sonde will go orbital, but I wonder if that is a misundestanding. MUFS is designed for 100 kg to 400 km. Why would they take three more years to add that 100 km from 300? Maybe just a suborbital demonstrator.
« Last Edit: 06/10/2023 01:40 pm by PM3 »
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Re: NEW Turkish SLV concept by Roketsan
« Reply #19 on: 12/09/2021 06:21 pm »
 I think 'Sonda Roketi' might just be intended as 'sounding rocket'.

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