[–]spxspxspx 3 points 1 month ago the hawthorne facility is growing also. they are getting more and more buildings on Jack Northrop. Eventually, they will take over the triumph buildings(already took over 4-5 i believe)permalinkembed[–]em-powerex-SpaceX 5 points 1 month ago they took over the triumph buildings over a year ago already, but they're not being fully utilized just yet. they have PLENTY room to grow still in that location.permalinkembedparent[–]spxspxspx 2 points 1 month ago not all the triumph buildings yet. Just a few.permalinkembedparent
Space Exploration Technologies, or SpaceX, a rocket and spacecraft manufacturing and launching company that moved to Hawthorne in 2008, is growing so quickly that it bought and rented 29 buildings in the city. SpaceX also recently opened a new parking structure across from its headquarters near the Hawthorne airport on Crenshaw Boulevard.
Please provide a link, not just a quote!
I count about 30 buildings on the block on Jack Northrop Ave. between Prairie Ave. and Crenshaw Blvd. 29 rented would just about take up all of them, including the seating store.Quote from: Robotbeat on 06/25/2016 06:54 pmPlease provide a link, not just a quote!Thanks to mlow for posting a link. But I vaguely recall that posting links to reddit was frowned-upon by Chris. Am I recalling incorrectly?
The company has signed a five-year lease for just under 8,000 square feet of “creative” office space in a newly renovated three-story building near Jamboree Road and Barranca Parkway in Irvine, according to the property’s manager, Wind Water Realty.
It’s unclear how many people will be working at the Irvine office or what they will be doing. But SpaceX is advertising three engineering positions for the Irvine office in its online job postings.“They were looking for a contemporary office with easy access where their engineers can work from,” Ivana Chavarria, a Wind Water Realty marketing and public relations staffer, said in an email.
Irvine, CA is also a site of many large game developers (notably Blizzard Entertainment), which may be ripe ground for poaching recruiting more programmers.
Quote from: Jarnis on 07/08/2016 06:54 amIrvine, CA is also a site of many large game developers (notably Blizzard Entertainment), which may be ripe ground for poaching recruiting more programmers.Irvine doesn't have a huge number of tech firms, so pickings are going to be fairly meagre. Broadcom are the biggest high tech place there by far. Cheaper than Silicon valley though!
Quote from: JamesH65 on 07/08/2016 08:06 amQuote from: Jarnis on 07/08/2016 06:54 amIrvine, CA is also a site of many large game developers (notably Blizzard Entertainment), which may be ripe ground for poaching recruiting more programmers.Irvine doesn't have a huge number of tech firms, so pickings are going to be fairly meagre. Broadcom are the biggest high tech place there by far. Cheaper than Silicon valley though!Blizzard Entertainment Irvine, CA office = 2620 highly skilled game developers ripe for the pickings
Game developer != embedded RF etc software engineer.Although there would be a tiny amount of crossover, but these are VERY different industries. Sadly, the general public seems to think that all softies do the same thing.
Quote from: JamesH65 on 07/08/2016 10:41 amGame developer != embedded RF etc software engineer.Although there would be a tiny amount of crossover, but these are VERY different industries. Sadly, the general public seems to think that all softies do the same thing.It was Elon Musk who has said, I believe in his Seattle speech, that he finds the best software developers in the gaming industry.
Quote from: guckyfan on 07/08/2016 11:10 amQuote from: JamesH65 on 07/08/2016 10:41 amGame developer != embedded RF etc software engineer.Although there would be a tiny amount of crossover, but these are VERY different industries. Sadly, the general public seems to think that all softies do the same thing.It was Elon Musk who has said, I believe in his Seattle speech, that he finds the best software developers in the gaming industry.There is a huge difference between your run-of-the-mill applications programming, and the sort of programming required for real-time, high performance applications. Games happen to be of that sort, to a point. But there is one HUGE difference between game programming and what is needed for rockets and cars: A mistake in a game is, at worst, a black eye or a monetary loss. A mistake in vehicle systems programming, especially in high performance vehicles, can make the difference between life and death.Games programming can provide you with the fundamental techniques, but not the proper discipline.
Elon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours agoMore Exciting progress on the tunnel front. Plan to start digging in a month or so. -link-
Clay Ellis @clay_ellis 7 hours ago @elonmusk So you were serious? Like seriously serious? -link-
Elon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours ago@clay_ellis Yup -link-
Walter Simson @_wsimson 7 hours ago @elonmusk where will your tunnel be? -link-
Elon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours ago@_wsimson Starting across from my desk at SpaceX. Crenshaw and the 105 Freeway, which is 5 mins from LAX -link-
I notice that in Google Maps, the building that is catercorner to HQ and South of the new parking garage is labeled as "SpaceX Tooling."https://www.google.com/maps/place/SpaceX/@33.920291,-118.3263875,18z/Also, this morning Musk said on Twitter that construction would begin on a tunnel across from his office. My guess is that is a pedestrian tunnel under Crenshaw from the parking garage to the HQ building. I guess we will see.Quote from: TwitterElon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours agoMore Exciting progress on the tunnel front. Plan to start digging in a month or so.Quote from: TwitterClay Ellis @clay_ellis 7 hours ago @elonmusk So you were serious? Like seriously serious?Quote from: TwitterElon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours ago@clay_ellis YupQuote from: TwitterWalter Simson @_wsimson 7 hours ago @elonmusk where will your tunnel be?Quote from: TwitterElon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours ago@_wsimson Starting across from my desk at SpaceX. Crenshaw and the 105 Freeway, which is 5 mins from LAX
Elon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours agoMore Exciting progress on the tunnel front. Plan to start digging in a month or so.
Clay Ellis @clay_ellis 7 hours ago @elonmusk So you were serious? Like seriously serious?
Elon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours ago@clay_ellis Yup
Walter Simson @_wsimson 7 hours ago @elonmusk where will your tunnel be?
Elon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours ago@_wsimson Starting across from my desk at SpaceX. Crenshaw and the 105 Freeway, which is 5 mins from LAX
I notice that in Google Maps, the building that is catercorner to HQ and South of the new parking garage is labeled as "SpaceX Tooling." 30,000 square feet.https://www.google.com/maps/place/SpaceX/@33.920291,-118.3263875,18z/Also, this morning Musk said on Twitter that construction would begin on a tunnel across from his office. My guess is that is a pedestrian tunnel under Crenshaw from the parking garage to the HQ building. I guess we will see.Quote from: TwitterElon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours agoMore Exciting progress on the tunnel front. Plan to start digging in a month or so. -link-Quote from: TwitterClay Ellis @clay_ellis 7 hours ago @elonmusk So you were serious? Like seriously serious? -link-Quote from: TwitterElon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours ago@clay_ellis Yup -link-Quote from: TwitterWalter Simson @_wsimson 7 hours ago @elonmusk where will your tunnel be? -link-Quote from: TwitterElon Musk @elonmusk 7 hours ago@_wsimson Starting across from my desk at SpaceX. Crenshaw and the 105 Freeway, which is 5 mins from LAX -link-
This photo show that the SpaceX parking structure was originally planned to have a walk bridge over Crenshaw but they may have decided that the first returned F9 1st stage is too good to passed up as a trophy so they had to settle for tunnel instead?
Quote from: Jdeshetler on 01/26/2017 03:59 amThis photo show that the SpaceX parking structure was originally planned to have a walk bridge over Crenshaw but they may have decided that the first returned F9 1st stage is too good to passed up as a trophy so they had to settle for tunnel instead?Maybe as the crow flies but I'm sure it would be easier to divert an overhead walkway around the trophy rocket than dig a tunnel. I think Elon is serious about the tunnel business.
Short flight through factory from Elon on Instagram.https://www.instagram.com/p/BVarZZSgfIP/
Quote from: Scylla on 06/16/2017 10:30 pmShort flight through factory from Elon on Instagram.https://www.instagram.com/p/BVarZZSgfIP/Interesting that you can see a used booster on the factory floor.
Well, how otherwise would he get the big spaceship from the factory to the docks?
Has anyone been farming the CAD (county tax) files for purchases of land around the facilities?
Couldn't that be CRS-9 being retrofitted? We haven't seen it being transported but it must be in work already.
Is there any chance that one of the more graphically gifted NSFers would be willing to create a map of SpaceX's Hawthorne footprint similar to what DaveG has done for Boca Chica properties in TX?
Quote from: Jdeshetler on 01/26/2017 03:59 amThis photo show that the SpaceX parking structure was originally planned to have a walk bridge over Crenshaw but they may have decided that the first returned F9 1st stage is too good to passed up as a trophy so they had to settle for tunnel instead?AIUI SpaceX applied for a permit to build the overhead walkway but it was denied by the city.
That's odd. Why would Hawthorne grant the easement and then not issue a permit?
One longtime Torrance defense contractor is shedding almost 100 jobs, while a SpaceX spin-off that could create up to 300 jobs within three years is in talks to move to the South Bay’s largest city, company and municipal officials have confirmed.
The Boring Company moving from Hawthorne to Torrance? SpaceX satellite division?QuoteOne longtime Torrance defense contractor is shedding almost 100 jobs, while a SpaceX spin-off that could create up to 300 jobs within three years is in talks to move to the South Bay’s largest city, company and municipal officials have confirmed.http://www.dailybreeze.com/business/20170815/torrance-aerospace-company-cuts-nearly-100-jobs-spacex-startup-could-bring-200-workers-to-city
Quote from: RedLineTrain on 08/16/2017 07:46 pmThe Boring Company moving from Hawthorne to Torrance? SpaceX satellite division?QuoteOne longtime Torrance defense contractor is shedding almost 100 jobs, while a SpaceX spin-off that could create up to 300 jobs within three years is in talks to move to the South Bay’s largest city, company and municipal officials have confirmed.http://www.dailybreeze.com/business/20170815/torrance-aerospace-company-cuts-nearly-100-jobs-spacex-startup-could-bring-200-workers-to-cityThe article does not say it is a SpaceX spin-off, but a new start-up company founded by a former SpaceX employee.
At its home base in Hawthorne, the rocket maker’s footprint has expanded to more than 30 buildings over nearly 1.7 million square feet.
So, with 1.7M ft2 already in Hawthorne, this additional million at Triumph facility and 200,000 at the port, SpaceX will have about 3M ft2 total in LA in 2020. This is about the present size of Gigafactory 1 -- so we'll have a Rocket Gigafactory. Michaud Facility is 1.87M ft2 BTW.Impressive.
Quote from: AncientU on 05/09/2018 08:38 pmSo, with 1.7M ft2 already in Hawthorne, this additional million at Triumph facility and 200,000 at the port, SpaceX will have about 3M ft2 total in LA in 2020. This is about the present size of Gigafactory 1 -- so we'll have a Rocket Gigafactory. Michaud Facility is 1.87M ft2 BTW.Impressive.I hope we gain some insight into how the site is divided up as it grows. Hawthorne is going to be an interesting mix of the F9 line and BFR components over the next decade.
SpaceX has 3 facilities at Hawthorne
Quote from: cro-magnon gramps on 05/10/2018 04:39 pmSpaceX has 3 facilities at HawthorneActually, Space has 7 or 8 Hawthorne facilities, as Raul's awesome map shows.https://www.google.com/maps/d/viewer?mid=1wvgFIPuOmI8da9EIB88tHo9vamo&hl&ll=33.91947680489818%2C-118.32983894988917&z=16
Visiting LA soon, and thought I might drop by to gawk at the displayed first stage. Has anyone made this visit and might have some suggestions re: parking, etc.? I'll be there on a weekday afternoon.Thanks!
Thanks everyone! I'll try to take a few pics. - Ed Kyle
It is hard for a space enthusiast to stand calmly at this intersection. - Ed Kyle
Quote from: edkyle99 on 09/19/2018 03:52 pm It is hard for a space enthusiast to stand calmly at this intersection. - Ed KyleAnd this is a good reminder that just because one of your fellow space enthusiasts occasionally voices doubts about the SpaceX schedule announcements or is cautious about believing SpaceX has licked a problem before actually seeing proof that's true, it doesn't mean they hate SpaceX.
First landed SpaceX Falcon 9 placed on display - August 20, 2016Pauline AcalinPublished on 20 Aug 2019The Falcon 9 B1019 launched on Dec 21, 2015 from Cape Canaveral’s Launch Complex 40 in Florida, successfully delivering 11 ORBCOMM communications satellites to low-earth orbit. The first stage booster returned about 9 minutes 45 seconds after liftoff, landing triumphantly at SpaceX’s Landing Zone 1 (LZ-1) about 6 miles from the launch site, making it the world’s first orbital rocket to land back on Earth. On August 20, 2016, the booster was placed on permanent display at the company’s headquarters in Hawthorne, CA.This is a compilation of footage I captured that day.
In the future, they'll have to make room to display the first SS that returns from the Moon or Mars
Not the best picture, but still pretty cool to capture a double rainbow over the walkway to @SpaceX's parking garage (which looks suspiciously like the crew access arm on 39A at @NASAKennedy...)
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The Apollo Astronauts Tribute to SpaceX and a Mars Mission I gathered personalized tributes and signatures from the Apollo astronauts for a birthday gift to Elon back in 2012, just after SpaceX’s first successful mission to the ISS. But I worked on two posters in parallel — this smaller one faces me in my office (a highlight of the space collection at Future Ventures). I just noticed that the original messages of congratulations from each astronaut differ across the posters, in a meaningful way! Most presciently, David Scott — Commander of Apollo 15, and first to drive an EV on the moon — riffs on Neil Armstrong’s One Giant Leap with an eye to SpaceX leading us to Mars: “The first leap of many giant steps to Mars!!! Onward!!!— Dave Scott, Apollo 9 CMP, Apollo 15 Cmdr” “CONGRATULATIONS— Buzz Aldrin, Apollo XI” “The beginning of an entirely new era.— Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 LMP” “A big first step and much luck on many more ahead!— Fred Haise, Apollo 13 LMP” “Congratulations on your success!— Al Worden, Apollo 15” “A big dream completed! Way to go!— Charlie Duke, Apollo 16 LMP” “We are excited to see your great success.— Alan Bean, Apollo 12 LMP” “Congratulations on a job well done…— Gene Cernan, Apollo 17 & Apollo X Charlie Duke and Al Bean, were effusive in their praise of SpaceX and the next generation of space explorers. Charlie Duke and Dave Scott were excited about a future mission to Mars. Here is the larger one I gave to Elon for his birthday, and the backstory as to why.
The Apollo Astronauts Tribute to SpaceX When I saw Elon Musk tear up on 60 Minutes facing the verbal assault from one of his heroes — Apollo astronaut Gene Cernan — I knew what I had to do. It has taken a bit of effort over the past months, but today I gave this to Elon and all of the SpaceX team, and it was very well received. =) This is the last photo, with my colleague Mohanjit Jolly, just before we gift-wrapped it. The Apollo astronauts composed and signed the following tributes: “And now, a giant leap for commercial space! Buzz Aldrin, Apollo XI” “A real breakthrtough – much success on many flights to come! Fred Haise, Apollo 13 LMP” “Congratulations! A big dream fulfilled! Charlie Duke, Apollo 16 LMP” “We are so excited to see your great success in an endeavor that demands the very best from each member of the SpaceX team ☆ Alan Bean, Apollo 12 LMP” “Congratuatlons on a job well done – now the challenge begins. Gene Cernan, Apollo 17 & Apollo X “The first of the next giant leap… Dave Scott, Apollo 9 CMP” “The beginning of an entirely new era! Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 LMP” “Keep up the good work – Walt Cunningham, Apollo 7” “Congratulations on your success! Al Worden, Apollo 15” When I saw 60 Minutes, my first thought was to get Gene Cernan (the last man to walk on the moon) to visit SpaceX as Elon had implored. I have been buying space artifacts from Gene over the past year and knew how to reach him. I tried to encourage him to visit SpaceX, but to no avail. So I flew out to talk to him face to face. I waited until SpaceX became the first private company to bring a spacecraft back from orbit, and the first to bring cargo to the space station, and the first to bring science experiments back. I also gathered signatures and congratulatory sentiments from the other Apollo heroes first. Some, like Charlie Duke and Al Bean, were effusive in their praise of SpaceX and the next generation of space explorers. Charlie Duke was excited about a future mission to Mars. Al Bean spent 20 minutes writing rough drafts and crafting each word of his message with the SpaceX team in mind. Then I approached Gene Cernan, and held my breath. I figured it would be a bit more difficult to break from the social proof of his esteemed colleagues. And so he listened. As with every Apollo astronaut who signed this photo, I was able to talk about SpaceX and answer his questions. Gene was interested in who financed SpaceX — what big money interests got it going. I told him that Elon Musk personally financed the company for all of its first $100 million, when no one else would bet on the venture, and he saw it through thick and thin, including the first three launches of the Falcon 1, all of which failed spectacularly. As I told him these stories of heroic entrepreneurship, I could see his mind turning. He found a reconciliation: “I never read any of this in the news. Why doesn’t the press report on this?” Cernan was the last hold out. Neil Armstrong wrote a strongly worded letter to 60 Minutes saying that he was taken out of context. The program editor agreed: "Armstrong wrote us to say we had not been complete in our description of his testimony. He's right. Armstrong is, arguably, the greatest explorer of the 20th Century. I suspect he has admiration for anyone in science or business who sees new possibilities. He may not be confident in a particular federal policy, but I imagine Neil Armstrong stands squarely on the side of those who dare to dream."— from the CBS Editors Blog Well, it’s Nikola Tesla’s birthday today, and Elon Musk’s was a few days ago. It seems like a good time to raise a glass to those who think different.
and here it is near the entrance at SpaceX HQ
Finally, I found what I waited for: they startrd to fill new registrations and apply for permits related to Raptor production equipment.Based on that it seems like they started production scale up this march (building the equipment part, so actual Raptors from those are yet to come).Source is this: https://xappprod.aqmd.gov/find//facility/AQMDsearch?facilityID=184509Under the equipment, there is one new electric furnace and 3 wax burn off ovens. Those are for Raptor iconel casting. They started with one furnace and one oven in 2017, and gathered a new oven in 2018. This 1+3 are the only new units since than. (So no interim capacity enhancements, based on equipment)Based on the adress the facility is the X-Box in Hawthorne. Minor details about equipment (type an manufacturer) should be in the documents, but those are a bit more tricky to obtain (not from mobile, I will add later if somebody interested in).
OK, I'm sure no one cares, but since you mentioned the control room...* Elon didn't want to see computers, so we had to use mini desktops that are mounted on the underside of the table. Watch your knees.* Wired keyboard and mice since you don't want to deal with dead batteries during a launch.* We needed to use half-height PNY video cards to drive three monitors. Required weird breakout cables. (https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/625342-REG/PNY_Technologies_030_0230_000_VHDCI_to_4x_DVI_D.html)* Elon picked those monitors based on about 5 different ones I ordered. He picked the one with a weird resolution (I don't remember exactly). That resolution was different from just about every other monitor at SpaceX that ran the same software. Since the software doesn't resize with resolution we occasionally had to change the GUI to work in that room.* The ceiling of this room is the floor of the 3rd floor. The 3rd floor used to be the garage, so every time someone drove their car the projectors would wobble.
Quote from: NighthawkCPAV/IT guy here. What projector(s) did ya'll use? One enormous one or several with edge blending? Are you using a commercial switching system to route video signals to it?I don't know the models, I wasn't that involved.I do know that the first projector setup was a single huge projector. It did not fill up the whole wall. See the first picture on this page. If I remember correctly, that projector was just a monitor connected to a machine in the closet somewhere. One of the operators would RDP into it and set up the windows before launch.After that it was a set of four projectors with edge blending. I think they came with a PC as part of the package. I'm not sure how that one was controlled. I remember it has a video camera and would project patterns from the 4 projectors and then automatically adjust them to get a good image. As someone who isn't involved with video projectors, that seemed pretty cool.edit: Just realized that you can see all 5 projectors in one of the images on that same page. The big one in the middle is still there, but not used. You can see the other four turned on.
AV/IT guy here. What projector(s) did ya'll use? One enormous one or several with edge blending? Are you using a commercial switching system to route video signals to it?
Quote from: yellekcQuote from: kring44That resolution was different from just about every other monitor at SpaceX that ran the same software. Since the software doesn't resize with resolution we occasionally had to change the GUI to work in that room.Seems to follow some of the ISA 101 guidelines, using muted color pallets to prevent sensory overload.Just curious, does SpsceX use an off the shelf commerical HMI system for the control room graphical displays or was that all custom software?Look at some of the displays on this page and you might change your mind about following ISA 101 Personally I wanted blacks & greys with dark greens/blues for nominal values. Yellow/orange/red for alerts. Basically, I wanted to be across the room and glance at a display and know that everything was OK if I didn't see yellow/orange/red. But we deferred a lot of decisions to the users who sometimes wanted a rainbow of colors.We had standard display widgets, but I don't think anyone spent a lot of time looking at industrial standards. It was more a back and forth with the users. The developers of that software (Ground Software, GSW) were actually part of the launch/mission group and not the software group (Flight Software, FSW) for a long time. GSW was also one of the positions in the launch room and was manned by one of the GSW developers on launch day. They were heavy users of their own software so any bad GUI decisions affected them directly. Eat your own dogfood.When I left there were over 100 instances of GSW running at SpaceX. Everything from small systems controlling an air conditioner from a single laptop to huge systems with dozens of redundant servers in multiple locations to control 39A. There was a lot of use and feedback, not just on launch days.The majority of the displays in the control room were custom made by the GSW group in LabVIEW. There is a little bit on info in the old SpaceX Software AMA.
Quote from: kring44That resolution was different from just about every other monitor at SpaceX that ran the same software. Since the software doesn't resize with resolution we occasionally had to change the GUI to work in that room.Seems to follow some of the ISA 101 guidelines, using muted color pallets to prevent sensory overload.Just curious, does SpsceX use an off the shelf commerical HMI system for the control room graphical displays or was that all custom software?
That resolution was different from just about every other monitor at SpaceX that ran the same software. Since the software doesn't resize with resolution we occasionally had to change the GUI to work in that room.
Quote from: AstroteuthisI can also guarantee you those desks are not cheap. Designing a control room and coming out with something that looks as clean as SpaceX’s is neither cheap nor easy.I'm going to disagree. The legs were IKEA Galant T-Legs. The tabletops were custom built, but they were just particle board with a fiberboard white top. As cheap as you could get. If you look at the first picture from OP you can see a bunch of chips taken out of the front of the table by the chair arms. I think all the money for the control room was for the glass walls and the projectors.
I can also guarantee you those desks are not cheap. Designing a control room and coming out with something that looks as clean as SpaceX’s is neither cheap nor easy.
It's a leg from a Falcon 9. There are a couple images of it here and here.
Quote from: Kang54 on 11/25/2020 08:35 pmIt's a leg from a Falcon 9. There are a couple images of it here and here.Yes, I understand it's a leg. You imply, it's not attached to anything? Just a free-hanging leg?
You can see a better image of the leg below. It's just attached to the wall as a display leg. I believe they can pull it up when they expect bunch of people to be outside the control room like launch day, etc.
From that article:"Beaumont has built equipment as small as a phone booth..."I'll bet that there are readers here who have never seen a phone booth.
A remarkable look inside SpaceX's (then relatively new) factory in Hawthorne in Nov. 2008, about two months after the first successful Falcon 1 launch. Photos by Dave Bullock, then shooting for Wired.
Fresh coat in progress for the Hawthorne monument.
Chinese New Year Celebration At SpaceX