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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #60 on: 02/04/2019 05:51 am »
They fired it up. Four seconds worth.

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #61 on: 02/07/2019 03:54 pm »
It seems to me it's useful to see that the engines can run with normal propellants.  I recall seeing some speculation that they might only be able to run with deep cryo propellants.

This provides useful flexibility.

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #62 on: 02/07/2019 04:59 pm »
It seems to me it's useful to see that the engines can run with normal propellants.  I recall seeing some speculation that they might only be able to run with deep cryo propellants.

This provides useful flexibility.
Well, consider this: if they are going to be generating fuel ISRU on Mars, will they have the extra energy required to keep that fuel extra cold all the time?  From my point of view, they will be doing well to keep the fuel liquefied for the whole time they are generating it (months?).
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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #63 on: 02/07/2019 05:39 pm »
It seems to me it's useful to see that the engines can run with normal propellants.  I recall seeing some speculation that they might only be able to run with deep cryo propellants.

This provides useful flexibility.

That assumption (that engine capable of deep cryo propellants could only run on deep cryo) was always faulty. Did they think that the F9 propellant was still deep cryo at landing - or in the upper stage after a long coast? The M1D can run on both, and as Elon verified, so can Raptor.

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #64 on: 02/11/2019 06:07 am »
All these tweets have been posted in the relevant threads on raptor; no need to repost them here, since this is the facility thread.

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #65 on: 02/11/2019 05:11 pm »
Yes, please self moderate them by deleting them
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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #66 on: 02/25/2019 04:45 pm »
[Waco Tribune-Herald] SpaceX nighttime test fees pay for park upgrades in McGregor
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...when Falcon rockets are put through their paces between 9 and 11 p.m., the city receives payments from the California-based rocket company now aiming for Mars.

This “hush” money for five years has profited a special fund to support youth baseball in McGregor, so designated by the McGregor City Council. About $440,000 later, the city christened Launch Pad Park, whose name reflects a tip of the cap to SpaceX...
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“I would say they have to test during those times probably less than once a month on average,” Evans said. “On a calendar year basis, the first time is $10,000, the second is $15,000, and all additional that year are $25,000.”
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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #67 on: 03/09/2019 01:06 am »
[Waco Tribune-Herald] SpaceX nighttime test fees pay for park upgrades in McGregor
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...when Falcon rockets are put through their paces between 9 and 11 p.m., the city receives payments from the California-based rocket company now aiming for Mars.

This “hush” money for five years has profited a special fund to support youth baseball in McGregor, so designated by the McGregor City Council. About $440,000 later, the city christened Launch Pad Park, whose name reflects a tip of the cap to SpaceX...
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“I would say they have to test during those times probably less than once a month on average,” Evans said. “On a calendar year basis, the first time is $10,000, the second is $15,000, and all additional that year are $25,000.”

That is awesome. If I was a kid hearing rockets go off all the time and then had this playset to go to, I would be living the dream.
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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #68 on: 04/04/2019 09:47 am »
What's happening in the cell next to the active raptor test cell?  Is that assembly in the grass set to be installed there? Or was it removed?

Test Stand photo in the article:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/04/starhopper-first-flight-starship-superheavy-updates/
« Last Edit: 04/04/2019 09:57 am by Chris Bergin »

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #69 on: 04/04/2019 05:38 pm »
What's happening in the cell next to the active raptor test cell?  Is that assembly in the grass set to be installed there? Or was it removed?

Test Stand photo in the article:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/04/starhopper-first-flight-starship-superheavy-updates/

May I suggest L2.

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #70 on: 04/05/2019 01:50 am »
What's happening in the cell next to the active raptor test cell?  Is that assembly in the grass set to be installed there? Or was it removed?

Test Stand photo in the article:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/04/starhopper-first-flight-starship-superheavy-updates/

SpaceX spent a lot of money on outfitting that cell and after just a few months, torn it all out. Looks like that main platform is all that is left. It was full of electrical boxes with vast numbers of tubing and conduit runs. I wonder what its function was. Seems like a huge waste of resources.
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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #71 on: 04/05/2019 04:52 am »
What's happening in the cell next to the active raptor test cell?  Is that assembly in the grass set to be installed there? Or was it removed?

Test Stand photo in the article:
https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/04/starhopper-first-flight-starship-superheavy-updates/

SpaceX spent a lot of money on outfitting that cell and after just a few months, torn it all out. Looks like that main platform is all that is left. It was full of electrical boxes with vast numbers of tubing and conduit runs. I wonder what its function was. Seems like a huge waste of resources.

Hmm yes I see it was installed here: https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2019/01/spacex-starship-tests-boca-chica/

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #72 on: 05/10/2020 09:06 am »
 Just stumbled over this while surfing with Google Earth over McGegor.
What are these shacks?

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #73 on: 05/10/2020 11:37 am »
Just stumbled over this while surfing with Google Earth over McGegor.
What are these shacks?

The remains of the old Bluebonnet Ordnance Plant   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluebonnet_Ordnance_Plant

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #74 on: 05/10/2020 01:07 pm »
Just stumbled over this while surfing with Google Earth over McGegor.
What are these shacks?

The array of small buildings in your image was used for storage of high explosive bombs made in the main Bluebonnet plant.  They are known as igloos and each one is surrounded by a large earth berm.  This was to reduce the risk of a chain reaction affecting the rest of the site in the event of a serious mishap causing one of the buildings to explode.  A form of social distancing for explosives.
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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #75 on: 06/16/2020 11:56 am »
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SpaceX pursues local funding for $10 million upgrade to McGregor plant
By MIKE COPELAND [email protected]  10 hrs ago

Fresh from making history by sending a manned craft to the International Space Station, SpaceX is asking Waco and McLennan County for money to grow.

The rocket company launched by billionaire Elon Musk will spend $10 million on infrastructure improvements at its rocket-testing facility in McGregor. The upgrades will include “noise suppressors,” which should prove welcome to those within earshot of SpaceX’s rumbling, window-rattling rehearsals.

Waco City Council and McLennan County Commissioners Court will vote Tuesday on sending SpaceX $2 million from the Waco-McLennan County Economic Development Corp. fund, with each entity allocating $1 million.

https://www.wacotrib.com/townnews/work/spacex-pursues-funding-for-10-million-upgrade-in-mcgregor/article_cc0c9e07-55f4-50ad-b49e-6cb67ac41b31.html

https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1272860128879017987

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SpaceX currently leases 4,280 acres and employs about 500 people in McGregor, city manager Kevin Evans told @wacotrib. The company has previously received $3 million from the city-county fund.
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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #76 on: 07/10/2021 05:16 pm »
https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1413909599711907845

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We are breaking ground soon on a second Raptor factory at SpaceX Texas test site. This will focus on volume production of Raptor 2, while California factory will make Raptor Vacuum & new, experimental designs.

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twitter.com/erdayastronaut/status/1413909805639602183?s=21

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At Starbase or McGregor?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1413910556965326850

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McGregor

Oh. My.

twitter.com/gokuaurelius/status/1413910573130018820

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What volume production are you aiming for? Quantity of raptors per year?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1413911893316603908

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Roughly 800 to 1000 per year. That’s about what’s needed over ten years to create the fleet to build a self-sustaining city on Mars. City itself probably takes roughly 20 years, so hopefully it is built by ~2050.
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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #77 on: 07/10/2021 07:01 pm »
twitter.com/watcherstank/status/1413916280638394368

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Is the plan still to have an engine factory at Starbase, or has that changed now that there will be one in McGregor?

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1413933624408252416

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The challenges of operating at Starbase left us with no choice but to put engine production in McGregor

twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1413911808751120387

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So Texas is going to have an orbital launch site *and* a major rocket engine factory in addition to the Starship build site. This was hard to imagine even a few years ago.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1413935041332191233

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Yes. It will be the highest output & most advanced rocket engine factory in the world.

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #78 on: 07/11/2021 03:54 am »
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The challenges of operating at Starbase left us with no choice but to put engine production in McGregor
 
 
I wonder what challenges he is referring too.

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Re: SpaceX McGregor Facilities
« Reply #79 on: 07/11/2021 07:14 am »
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The challenges of operating at Starbase left us with no choice but to put engine production in McGregor
 
 
I wonder what challenges he is referring too.

Probably infrastructure related.  Electricity and Water are already rather scarce there, though SpaceX is working on building its own power plant. 

McGregor is much more developed so adding stuff there requires a lot less work.

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