Quote from: Vahe231991 on 10/24/2022 08:22 pmQuote from: Jim on 10/24/2022 07:30 pmQuote from: Vahe231991 on 10/22/2022 12:05 amQuote from: zubenelgenubi on 10/10/2022 10:37 pmDelayed into 2023? Not listed before CFT.Quote from: Salo on 10/08/2022 08:36 pmhttps://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.htmlQuoteATLAS V & VULCANUpcoming Atlas V launches include the first crewed flight of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft to the space station in February TBD. Vulcan will use the same launch pad when it flies. [October 8 update]The USSF-51 is officially described as a classified payload, like the two satellites that will be launched aboard the last two Delta IV Heavy launches. The Atlas V will also launch the NROL-107 satellite from SLC-41, but this launch is not listed before the Starliner CFT either.and your point is?The Launch Viewing Guide website doesn't mention the USSF-51, which is why someone speculated that USSF-51 may be delayed to next year.Moderator:Jim was replying to your post, Vahe, not mine.Your reply, Vahe, didn't answer my question. As a reply, it was off-topic.Your reply could instead have been a no-new-information-provided post in this thread.If no one currently has an answer to my launch scheduling question, then let's move on.
Quote from: Jim on 10/24/2022 07:30 pmQuote from: Vahe231991 on 10/22/2022 12:05 amQuote from: zubenelgenubi on 10/10/2022 10:37 pmDelayed into 2023? Not listed before CFT.Quote from: Salo on 10/08/2022 08:36 pmhttps://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.htmlQuoteATLAS V & VULCANUpcoming Atlas V launches include the first crewed flight of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft to the space station in February TBD. Vulcan will use the same launch pad when it flies. [October 8 update]The USSF-51 is officially described as a classified payload, like the two satellites that will be launched aboard the last two Delta IV Heavy launches. The Atlas V will also launch the NROL-107 satellite from SLC-41, but this launch is not listed before the Starliner CFT either.and your point is?The Launch Viewing Guide website doesn't mention the USSF-51, which is why someone speculated that USSF-51 may be delayed to next year.
Quote from: Vahe231991 on 10/22/2022 12:05 amQuote from: zubenelgenubi on 10/10/2022 10:37 pmDelayed into 2023? Not listed before CFT.Quote from: Salo on 10/08/2022 08:36 pmhttps://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.htmlQuoteATLAS V & VULCANUpcoming Atlas V launches include the first crewed flight of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft to the space station in February TBD. Vulcan will use the same launch pad when it flies. [October 8 update]The USSF-51 is officially described as a classified payload, like the two satellites that will be launched aboard the last two Delta IV Heavy launches. The Atlas V will also launch the NROL-107 satellite from SLC-41, but this launch is not listed before the Starliner CFT either.and your point is?
Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 10/10/2022 10:37 pmDelayed into 2023? Not listed before CFT.Quote from: Salo on 10/08/2022 08:36 pmhttps://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.htmlQuoteATLAS V & VULCANUpcoming Atlas V launches include the first crewed flight of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft to the space station in February TBD. Vulcan will use the same launch pad when it flies. [October 8 update]The USSF-51 is officially described as a classified payload, like the two satellites that will be launched aboard the last two Delta IV Heavy launches. The Atlas V will also launch the NROL-107 satellite from SLC-41, but this launch is not listed before the Starliner CFT either.
Delayed into 2023? Not listed before CFT.Quote from: Salo on 10/08/2022 08:36 pmhttps://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.htmlQuoteATLAS V & VULCANUpcoming Atlas V launches include the first crewed flight of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft to the space station in February TBD. Vulcan will use the same launch pad when it flies. [October 8 update]
https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.htmlQuoteATLAS V & VULCANUpcoming Atlas V launches include the first crewed flight of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft to the space station in February TBD. Vulcan will use the same launch pad when it flies. [October 8 update]
ATLAS V & VULCANUpcoming Atlas V launches include the first crewed flight of Boeing's Starliner spacecraft to the space station in February TBD. Vulcan will use the same launch pad when it flies. [October 8 update]
SFN Launch Schedule, updated October 26Quote<snip>2nd Quarter • Atlas 5 • USSF 51Launch time: TBDLaunch site: SLC-41, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida<snip>
<snip>2nd Quarter • Atlas 5 • USSF 51Launch time: TBDLaunch site: SLC-41, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida<snip>
The SpaceFlightNow website has the USSF-51 launch now scheduled for the second quarter of 2023.
Sorry if this has already been discussed. I did not find it.apparently, Congress directed USSF to stop using Altas by 2022. https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/26/22641048/ula-boeing-lockheed-end-sales-atlas-v-rocket-russia-rd180So how can USSF-51 and NROL-107 fly on Atlas V in 2023?
Quote from: DanClemmensen on 01/10/2023 06:02 pmSorry if this has already been discussed. I did not find it.apparently, Congress directed USSF to stop using Altas by 2022. https://www.theverge.com/2021/8/26/22641048/ula-boeing-lockheed-end-sales-atlas-v-rocket-russia-rd180So how can USSF-51 and NROL-107 fly on Atlas V in 2023?Missions were delayed beyond their original target launch date. The above applies to ordering the launch which predates 2022. The pandemic and other factors delayed many government missions which are not limited to ULA rockets. All Russian components were fully delivered before the deadline meeting the laws requirements.
Notwithstanding the fact that the USSF-51 was intended to launch on a Vulcan before delays into manufacture and testing of the BE-4 engine for the Vulcan's first stage prompted the ULA and US Space Force to replace the Vulcan with Atlas V as the launch vehicle for USSF-51, is it possible that the US Space Force could launch USSF-51 in mid-April depending on how soon the CFT mission could launch in April once the SpaceX Crew-5 returns to Earth?
Quote from: Vahe231991 on 01/18/2023 03:58 pmNotwithstanding the fact that the USSF-51 was intended to launch on a Vulcan before delays into manufacture and testing of the BE-4 engine for the Vulcan's first stage prompted the ULA and US Space Force to replace the Vulcan with Atlas V as the launch vehicle for USSF-51, is it possible that the US Space Force could launch USSF-51 in mid-April depending on how soon the CFT mission could launch in April once the SpaceX Crew-5 returns to Earth?No. a. It takes about a month to turn around and launch another Atlasb. The spacecraft would have to be at the launch site.
. Point B you mention is somewhat different than point A because irrespective of whether the first manned Starliner flight takes place early April, there would be sufficient time for the US Space Force to consider a May launch window for the USSF-51.
Quote from: Vahe231991 on 01/18/2023 08:42 pm. Point B you mention is somewhat different than point A because irrespective of whether the first manned Starliner flight takes place early April, there would be sufficient time for the US Space Force to consider a May launch window for the USSF-51.How do you know that? Contracts have to be changed for the spacecraft, launch vehicle and processing facility.
the Atlas V configuration scheduled to launch the USSF-51 is yet to be decided upon.
NASA is now targeting the middle of April for the first crewed Starliner flight, since you have said that it takes about a month to turn around and launch another Atlas V, the US Space Force might have to wait a few months after April to prepare for launch of the USSF-51 lists a NET June 2023 launch window for USSF-51, which could be plausible because the Atlas V configuration scheduled to launch the USSF-51 is yet to be decided upon.
Quote from: Vahe231991 on 01/29/2023 03:21 amNASA is now targeting the middle of April for the first crewed Starliner flight, since you have said that it takes about a month to turn around and launch another Atlas V, the US Space Force might have to wait a few months after April to prepare for launch of the USSF-51 lists a NET June 2023 launch window for USSF-51, which could be plausible because the Atlas V configuration scheduled to launch the USSF-51 is yet to be decided upon.No, ULA is targeting the middle of April for the first crew StarlinerUSSF-51 configuration is knownUSSF-51 doesn't have to be after Cert-1
I sure hope Cert-1 is before USSF-51!
Quote from: Newton_V on 01/31/2023 12:43 amI sure hope Cert-1 is before USSF-51! Should have said "USSF-51 doesn't have to be just after Cert-1
Quote from: Jim on 01/29/2023 01:14 pmQuote from: Vahe231991 on 01/29/2023 03:21 amNASA is now targeting the middle of April for the first crewed Starliner flight, since you have said that it takes about a month to turn around and launch another Atlas V, the US Space Force might have to wait a few months after April to prepare for launch of the USSF-51 lists a NET June 2023 launch window for USSF-51, which could be plausible because the Atlas V configuration scheduled to launch the USSF-51 is yet to be decided upon.No, ULA is targeting the middle of April for the first crew StarlinerUSSF-51 configuration is knownUSSF-51 doesn't have to be after Cert-1Ok, I'll bite, so what configuration does USSF-51 have ? assuming it is public ?
Stich: know there's another launch on the range about that time. Need to work that with other govt agencies.