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I'm a little surprised they didn't use conformal helmets.  The Columbia crew survival report had a lot to say about trauma from the loose-fitting helmets.  Is ASAP going to be happy?

Not applicable.  The mass of the shuttle helmets was the problem.  Shuttle crews had to bail out.   If there are loads that will cause head trauma on CST-100, then there are bigger issues.  The CST-100 crew will be in reclining seats in an eyeballs in orientation with one basic direction of loads. 

(see comment about Apollo eyes below)
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Although "Boeing blue" color might be a poor choice for visibility during an ocean abort.


The color of the suit doesn't do much for visibility at sea. Much better to have reflective strips which  will do a much better job. Since you need a light source emitting from the searcher to see anyone in the middle of the sea.
Nope. NASA did not require a high-visibility pressure suit. Starliner will only land on water in extreme contingency cases (default is landing on land) and the crew is supposed to stay inside the capsule until help arrives. From that point forward you do not need high visibility suits.

Correct.

People need to look through Apollo eyes and not Shuttle eyes. 

Shuttle crew was going to bail out over the ocean and be separated from each other by large distances.  Also, they would not be in or next to a floating orbiter.

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I like the new suits, and was just thinking the other day how I liked the lightweight design of the GT7 Gemini suits with the partially fabric helmet. Should reduce stowage volume and make the suits more comfortable when not pressurized.
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I like the new suits, and was just thinking the other day how I liked the lightweight design of the GT7 Gemini suits with the partially fabric helmet. Should reduce stowage volume and make the suits more comfortable when not pressurized.

GT-7 crew still wore crash helmets under the suit helmet.

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The pic got me doing so research on that suit, never knew they made one of that type.
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/MuseumExhibits/FactSheets/Display/tabid/509/Article/198041/project-gemini-lightweight-space-suit.aspx
curious if they used this type of suit as a starting point of some kind for their design.
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I like the new suits, and was just thinking the other day how I liked the lightweight design of the GT7 Gemini suits with the partially fabric helmet. Should reduce stowage volume and make the suits more comfortable when not pressurized.

GT-7 crew still wore crash helmets under the suit helmet.
Probably because of the alarming ejection possibilities.
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The pic got me doing so research on that suit, never knew they made one of that type.
http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/MuseumExhibits/FactSheets/Display/tabid/509/Article/198041/project-gemini-lightweight-space-suit.aspx
curious if they used this type of suit as a starting point of some kind for their design.
jb
A lot of money has been spent on R&D in the past so why not make use of it. Here are more pics from a display of the G5C:
http://heroicrelics.org/ahof/suits-gemini-g5c/index.html
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Great update, Chris!

Thank you also for addressing what is known about the space suit for Dragon and the mention of the Orion space suit.

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Is it me. ;) Or is that a Space Smurf? ;D

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Well, I think the new suits are just smurfy. :D

And we should consider other inspiration source possibilities. 8)
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What it's like to wear Boeing's Space Suit
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From left, NASA astronauts Mike Fincke, Suni Williams, and Barry “Butch” Wilmore, Boeing Crew Flight Test (CFT) backup spacecraft test pilot, pilot, and commander, respectively, exit the Astronaut Crew Quarters at NASA’s Kennedy Space Center in Florida during a crew validation test on Oct. 18, 2022. The astronauts, with assistance from the Boeing team, successfully completed the validation test during which they suited up and tested out the pressurized crew module to ensure seat fit, suit functionality, cabin temperature, audio system, and day of launch operations. Boeing’s CFT is scheduled to launch in April 2023. Photo credit: NASA/Kim Shiflett

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