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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #220 on: 09/25/2023 06:01 pm »
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All Engines Added to NASA’s Artemis II Moon Rocket Core Stage
Teams at NASA’s Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans have structurally joined all four RS-25 engines onto the core stage for NASA’s Artemis II Moon rocket.
The flight test is the agency’s first crewed mission under Artemis.


https://blogs.nasa.gov/artemis/2023/09/25/all-engines-added-to-nasas-artemis-ii-moon-rocket-core-stage/

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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #221 on: 10/07/2023 04:18 pm »
https://twitter.com/nasa_sls/status/1710671334320042428

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@NASAArtemis II will be the first crewed Artemis mission and four astronauts are busy preparing for their nearly 10-day journey where they will travel 685,000 miles around the Moon and back to Earth.
 
Learn what's in store for the #Artemis II crew>>

https://www.nasa.gov/humans-in-space/life-encapsulated-inside-nasas-orion-for-artemis-ii-moon-mission/

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Little did I know that of the 4 astronauts who participated in the #geology training that I led to the Kamestastin impact structure in #Labrador 🇨🇦 in September, that 3 would be assigned to the #ArtemisII mission! #ToTheMoon #Artemis #CanadaInSpace

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CSA astronaut Jenni Gibbons is the designated Canadian backup for Artemis II

2023-11-22

On November 22, surrounded by CSA employees, students and media representatives, the Honourable François-Philippe Champagne, Minister responsible for the CSA, announced that CSA astronaut Jenni Gibbons will serve as the Canadian backup astronaut for the historic Artemis II mission to the Moon.

Should CSA astronaut Jeremy Hansen be unable to participate in Artemis II, Jenni Gibbons will be ready to step in for Canada. Jenni's role will be instrumental in shaping and validating astronaut training and processes for upcoming lunar missions. In other words, she will contribute to the preparation of future Artemis missions. Jenni is also training to provide support to Artemis missions from the ground as a lunar capcom – a new role for Canada.

During this event, Minister Champagne also announced that CSA astronaut Joshua Kutryk has been assigned to a six-month mission on the International Space Station. Joshua and his crewmates will be launching aboard Starliner-1.

https://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/news/articles/2023/2023-11-22-astronaut-jenni-gibbons-designated-canadian-backup-artemis-ii.asp

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Breaking news! @Astro_Jenni has been assigned as a CSA backup astronaut for #Artemis II. This secures a seat for Canada on the first crewed mission to the Moon in over 50 years, in the event that @Astro_Jeremy Hansen is unable to fly.

Jenni Gibbons will help define and validate the astronauts’ training and processes for future Moon missions.

https://twitter.com/csa_asc/status/1727342699010007072

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Congratulations @Astro_Jenni and @Astro_Kutryk on the mission assignments today!

https://twitter.com/Astro_Jeremy/status/1727354361872023778


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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #226 on: 12/06/2023 10:09 pm »
https://twitter.com/nasa_sls/status/1732535392551711211

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The pilot lines for the #Artemis II Emergency Egress System have been deployed and brought to Launch Pad 39B at @NASAKennedy by @NASAGroundSys.
These lines connect the track cables, along which the EES baskets will travel down the mobile launcher to the base of the launch pad.

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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #228 on: 12/13/2023 04:57 pm »
https://twitter.com/akd_ams/status/1734994746765103357

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Not an official statement by any means, but at the Galloway Symposium luncheon just now, NASA astronaut Randy Bresnik commented in passing that the Artemis II crew likely will launch in 2025. [not 2024]

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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #230 on: 12/21/2023 03:24 pm »

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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #231 on: 01/06/2024 01:57 am »
A reasonably reliable source indicates NASA has not just suspended but totally discontinued its use of the Florida International University Aquarius Reef Base for NEEMO training missions.

What's the plan for giving Artemis astronauts a somewhat equivalent training experience?
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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #234 on: 01/09/2024 09:12 am »
NASA to push back moon mission timelines amid spacecraft delays:
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/nasa-push-back-moon-mission-timelines-amid-spacecraft-delays-sources-2024-01-09/

https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1744526525452480607

And once again my NASA sources were correct, about discussions being run, and options being looked into, for shifting the crewed lunar landing to Artemis IV. My linked L2 post is from late June 2023, but I had been hearing this stuff since the beginning of 2023.
And now Joey is telling us that the option, to move the crewed lunar landing to Artemis IV, has indeed been presented to Nelson et al.
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NASA to push back moon mission timelines amid spacecraft delays:
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/nasa-push-back-moon-mission-timelines-amid-spacecraft-delays-sources-2024-01-09/
https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1744526525452480607
And once again my NASA sources were correct, about discussions being run, and options being looked into, for shifting the crewed lunar landing to Artemis IV. My linked L2 post is from late June 2023, but I had been hearing this stuff since the beginning of 2023.
And now Joey is telling us that the option, to move the crewed lunar landing to Artemis IV, has indeed been presented to Nelson et al.

Kudos to the sources. This was however reasonably foreseeable as soon as the HLS awards, architectures and timelines were decided. I predicted as much two years ago! (and was mulling it as likely even earlier than I dared write it publicly). Artemis III could conceivably have remained a Gateway-only mission with the approximate same launch date, but delays in the lunar station imply SLS doesn't have a destination until later than anticipated.



On the other hand, there seems to be talk (I hope baseless) of also launching Artemis II without crew, slipping first crewed Orion ops to Artemis III, which would be IMHO quite a waste of a perfectly good opportunity to verify ECLSS, while increasing risk in the first crewed mission which would likely include Gateway, implying both 1st-time crewed Orion ops, but also RDVZ and docking capabilities, plus obviously the NRHO combined mission. Too much overload with far too many firsts for a single mission, for far too little gain during a mission which has long been planned to include crew and is now on the verge of beginning final processing.
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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #236 on: 01/09/2024 11:35 am »

NASA to push back moon mission timelines amid spacecraft delays:
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/nasa-push-back-moon-mission-timelines-amid-spacecraft-delays-sources-2024-01-09/
https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1744526525452480607
And once again my NASA sources were correct, about discussions being run, and options being looked into, for shifting the crewed lunar landing to Artemis IV. My linked L2 post is from late June 2023, but I had been hearing this stuff since the beginning of 2023.
And now Joey is telling us that the option, to move the crewed lunar landing to Artemis IV, has indeed been presented to Nelson et al.

Kudos to the sources. This was however reasonably foreseeable as soon as the HLS awards, architectures and timelines were decided. I predicted as much two years ago! (and was mulling it as likely even earlier than I dared write it publicly). Artemis III could conceivably have remained a Gateway-only mission with the approximate same launch date, but delays in the lunar station imply SLS doesn't have a destination until later than anticipated.



On the other hand, there seems to be talk (I hope baseless) of also launching Artemis II without crew, slipping first crewed Orion ops to Artemis III, which would be IMHO quite a waste of a perfectly good opportunity to verify ECLSS, while increasing risk in the first crewed mission which would likely include Gateway, implying both 1st-time crewed Orion ops, but also RDVZ and docking capabilities, plus obviously the NRHO combined mission. Too much overload with far too many firsts for a single mission, for far too little gain during a mission which has long been planned to include crew and is now on the verge of beginning final processing.

Former NASA astronaut Jose Hernandez actually advocated for de-crewing Artemis 2 on Twitter yesterday. I'd be interested to hear him spell out the safety issues, as he understands them.

https://twitter.com/Astro_Jose/status/1744532055319605568

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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #237 on: 01/09/2024 11:52 am »
Well someone claimed "Artemis II is NLT (no later than) May 2024" 2 years ago:

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Artemis II is NLT (no later than) May 2024. Note there's a Congressional mandate for it to be at least 20 months (that's more than 1.5 years) after Artemis I, not necessarily mandated by technical considerations. Not sure if it was ever determined why this requirement was put in place back in the spring, but it means Artemis II CANNOT legally be launched earlier than November 2023 assuming Artemis I goes off in LP18 as currently scheduled - not that I'm saying it would technically likely to be ready by then.

So Artemis II is NET Nov '23 and NLT May '24, which is quite different to NET May 2024!

I wonder how this prediction will fare after today...

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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #238 on: 01/09/2024 12:58 pm »
NASA to push back moon mission timelines amid spacecraft delays:
https://www.reuters.com/technology/space/nasa-push-back-moon-mission-timelines-amid-spacecraft-delays-sources-2024-01-09/

https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1744526525452480607

And once again my NASA sources were correct, about discussions being run, and options being looked into, for shifting the crewed lunar landing to Artemis IV. My linked L2 post is from late June 2023, but I had been hearing this stuff since the beginning of 2023.
And now Joey is telling us that the option, to move the crewed lunar landing to Artemis IV, has indeed been presented to Nelson et al.

The possibility that Artemis IV would be the first surface mission had been mentioned by Bob Cabana on May 18, 2023 and later on by Jim Free on August 8, 2023. See this link:
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=58212.msg2512655#msg2512655

Having said that based on Jim Free's prior comments, I suspect that this is only an option that will be considered if the spacesuits and lander aren't ready in time. Artemis III is likely to be pushed to 2026 today and perhaps 2027 later on, so it's still not clear to me what is the long pole for Artemis III.
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Re: Artemis II : Updates and Discussion Thread : NET Nov 2024
« Reply #239 on: 01/09/2024 01:36 pm »
See below:

Artemis II expected to be delayed to next year per Kristin Fisher:
https://www.cnn.com/2024/01/08/world/nasa-artemis-delays-scn/index.html

https://twitter.com/KristinFisher/status/1744510581149716925
Ha, I almost replied to this last night with “Okay Mr. Free, what did SpaceX do this time” but thought, nah, that’s too bitter.  :D
« Last Edit: 01/09/2024 01:37 pm by punder »

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