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https://twitter.com/segeryu/status/1598901634008244224

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The SZ-16 spacecraft will undergo 2 major upgrades.
The second item is to improve the layout of the instrument panel of the return module in terms of human factors engineering, so that the astronauts can operate more conveniently and quickly.
According to BJLL, you can imagine the dashboard of the new manned spacecraft test ship. But if you haven’t seen it before 🥱 please refer to Figure 3 and Figure 4 ~~~ for the time being.
"SZ-1~11 = single ship serial development; SZ-12 ~ 15 = sequential parallel batch production; SZ-16 ~ 21 = sequential parallel batch production"

twitter.com/segeryu/status/1598902411804176385

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"Currently, the Shenzhou 16 spacecraft has been assembled and tested, and is on standby at the Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center as an emergency rescue ship; the Shenzhou 17, Shenzhou 18, and Shenzhou 19 spacecraft are under rolling development. The new batch of 6 spaceships headed by them will appear on the space stage with a brand-new attitude in the near future.”
(Beijing Blue Dragon)

https://twitter.com/segeryu/status/1598921422549946368

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The last article is only the *dashboard* *dashboard* *dashboard* in Figure 3 and Figure 4
Maybe the above didn’t make it clear, the improved spaceship return cabin *dashboard* *probably* from Shenzhen-16 will be similar to the new spaceship~
Figure 3 and Figure 4 are just the renderings of the return cabin of the new generation spacecraft, for reference only.
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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 2023
« Reply #1 on: 12/03/2022 11:13 am »
From SZ-8 to the present, the instrument panel of the spacecraft is as shown in the picture. It is part of the spacecraft instrument lighting subsystem. There are several integrated display units, human-computer interaction equipment, and sounding units installed on the instrument panel. If I understand correctly, the instrument panel will be significantly upgraded from SZ-16 onwards. The new upgraded instrument panel will look similar to that of the new generation of manned spaceship test ships. Just like in the rendering above.

https://twitter.com/SegerYu/status/1598930038543749120

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 2023
« Reply #2 on: 12/08/2022 03:55 am »
The Shenzhou-16 might be launched on May 25, 2023.
« Last Edit: 12/08/2022 09:35 pm by mikezang »

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 2023
« Reply #3 on: 12/08/2022 11:44 am »
The Shenzhou-16 might be launched on May 30, 2023.

Great find! But doesn't it rather mean launch date in column two and return date in column three?
Which would mean Shenzhou 16 launch on May 25 and Shenzhou 15 return on May 30?
« Last Edit: 12/08/2022 12:06 pm by starbase »
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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 2023
« Reply #4 on: 12/08/2022 12:08 pm »
The Shenzhou-16 might be launched on May 30, 2023.

But doesn't it rather mean launch date in column two and return date in column three?
Which would mean Shenzhou 16 launch on May 25 and Shenzhou 15 return on May 30?
Coorect!
发射日期 = Launch date
返回日期 = Return date
滞留日数 = stay days
交会日数 = common stay days         

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Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F - Jiuquan - May, 2023
« Reply #5 on: 02/15/2023 01:42 am »
https://weibo.com/5616492130/Mt6eE4WGb
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The latest news from the China Manned Space Office; according to the mission plan, it is planned to launch the Tianzhou-6 cargo spacecraft in May 2023, docking at the rear port of the core module to form a combination of three cabins and two ships. Retain and consume materials, maintenance spare parts, propellant and application mission load samples, and downlink waste in orbit; launch the Shenzhou 16 manned spacecraft in May, docking at the radial port of the core module to form a combination of three cabins and three ships; 10 The Shenzhou 17 manned spacecraft was launched on January 1, and it was docked at the forward port of the core module to form a combination of three modules and three ships. During the two manned flight missions, activities such as astronaut out-of-vehicle activities and cargo airlock out-of-vehicle missions will be carried out, space science experiments and technical experiments will be carried out, routine work on platform management, work related to astronaut support, and popular science education will be carried out.

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 2023
« Reply #6 on: 02/15/2023 01:03 pm »
https://kevinjamesng.com/2023/02/15/cnsa-chinanationalspaceadministration-%e5%9b%bd%e5%ae%b6%e8%88%aa%e5%a4%a9%e5%b1%80-bri-february2023-tiangong-chinaspacestation-cms-chinamannedspace-shenzhou15-crew-announces-flight-mission/


China announces flight missions patch design competition

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1. Collection Content

Tianzhou-6 cargo spacecraft flight mission, Shenzhou-16 manned flight mission, Shenzhou-17 manned flight mission logo design scheme and explanation of ideas, all natural persons, legal persons and organizations who love China’s manned spaceflight industry can participate.

2. Activities

The collection will close at 24:00 on March 6, 2023. Online voting and results announcement will follow.

3. Organizer

China Manned Space Engineering Office

4. Overall Standard

(1) Creativity requirements. The mission logo design should fully reflect Chinese elements, manned spaceflight features, and mission characteristics, with distinct technological and artistic implications, and should also properly consider the systematization, coordination, and continuity of the three mission logos.

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8. Basic Situation of Manned Space Missions in 2023

(1) Flight mission of Tianzhou-6 cargo spacecraft

Launch date: May 2023

Launch site: Wenchang Space Launch Site

Space station configuration: Tianzhou-6 is docked at the rear port of the core cabin, forming a combination of three cabins and two ships.

Main tasks: Cargo flight missions are mainly used for uplink astronaut resident materials, extravehicular suits and other out-of-vehicle consumables; maintenance spare parts and propellants to ensure the safe operation of the platform, various loads and samples for application tasks; and downlink on-orbit waste .

(2) Shenzhou 16 manned flight mission

Launch date: May 2023

Launch site: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center

Flight crew: consists of 3 Takionauts

Space station configuration: Shenzhou 16 is docked at the radial port of the core module, forming a combination of three cabins and three ships.

Main tasks: Carry out astronaut out-of-vehicle activities and cargo airlock out-of-vehicle missions; continue to carry out space science experiments and technical experiments; carry out important activities such as platform management, astronaut support, and popular science education.

(3) Shenzhou 17 manned flight mission

Launch date: October 2023

Launch site: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center

Flight crew: consists of 3 Takionauts

Space station configuration: Shenzhou 17 is docked at the forward port of the core cabin, forming a combination of three cabins and three ships.

Main tasks: Carry out astronaut out-of-vehicle activities and cargo airlock out-of-vehicle missions; continue to carry out space science experiments and technical experiments; carry out important activities such as platform management routine work, astronaut support related work, and popular science education.

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - June 2023
« Reply #7 on: 02/26/2023 01:30 pm »
Cross post

https://twitter.com/marsboy/status/1629510136489447425

https://www.leonarddavid.com/china-recruits-new-astronauts-for-2023-missions/
China Recruits New Astronauts for 2023 missions
By Leonard David
Posted February 25th, 2023

China has finished recruiting a total of six astronauts for spaceflight missions in 2023.

Chinese astronauts will be on regular duty at the country’s space station in the future. Each batch of astronauts will support a mission duration of six months. There will be two batches of six astronauts in total to conduct spaceflight missions this year.

The update on the new astronauts comes from China’s first space traveler, Yang Liwei, also deputy chief designer of China’s manned space program.

“Before the start of the spaceflight mission, we will select the astronauts one or one and a half years in advance, including the astronauts who will perform the mission and the backup crew,” Yang said in a recent interview with the China Media Group.

Diverse backgrounds

“Now we’ve basically conducted astronaut selection for two missions together, and will select a backup crew. This is conducive to the connection between the regular training and that of the backup astronauts. Therefore, you can also imagine that we must have selected the next space station crew and the backup crew for this year’s missions, which is conducive to the execution of our entire mission,” Yang said.

China’s first batch of astronauts were initially pilots from the air force, “and now our astronauts come from colleges, universities, research institutions, engineering departments, and the Chinese Academy of Sciences,” Yang said.

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This is not a new taikonaut recruitment.  The article should be titled "China assigns astronauts for 2023 missions".

What does seem new is that they will assign 6 taikonauts for SZ-16 and 6 more for SZ-17.  Until now, it seems that the backup crew fly the next mission.

Group photo of Shenzhou-14 and Shenzhou-15 crews..

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1598829361280749568

All active taikonauts in groups 1 and 2 have flown at least one spaceflight, so I think that for these future missions they will already include in the assignments taikonauts from group 3, who approximately around last October would have already finished their ASCAN course (although this has not been confirmed by China). And I guess the first non-pilot to fly, could be a physician (or an engineer).

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 25, 2023
« Reply #8 on: 03/08/2023 02:53 pm »
You can now help to choose the patch for Shenzhou-16

You can vote here for the proposals: http://www.cmse.gov.cn/hdjl/bszjhd/tptd/202303/t20230308_53039.html

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 25, 2023
« Reply #9 on: 03/08/2023 02:54 pm »
Other patch proposals for Shenzhou-16...

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 25, 2023
« Reply #11 on: 05/11/2023 08:43 am »
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News from Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center; On May 9, Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center held a mobilization oath meeting for the launch of Shenzhou 16 and the search and rescue mission of Shenzhou 15.
The test and launch department of the center held mission oath mobilization in the vertical final assembly and test workshop of the manned space launch site, and sounded the "battle horn" of three parallel missions led by the Shenzhou 16 manned flight mission. Post representatives participate in the mobilization meeting.
All members of the space search and rescue team gathered in front of the new office building to hold the Shenzhou 16 launch and Shenzhou 15 search and rescue mission mobilization swearing-in meeting, aiming to further boost morale, gather strength, and blow the oath to win the mission of the space station application and development stage. Victory charge!
It is said the launch date might be on May 29~31.

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 25, 2023
« Reply #12 on: 05/12/2023 04:47 am »
It is said the launch date might be on May 29~31.

The chart shows 29 May as the launch date. Also gives the launch dates for Shenzhou 17 to 20!
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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 25, 2023
« Reply #13 on: 05/12/2023 05:44 am »
It is said the launch date might be on May 29~31.

The chart shows 29 May as the launch date. Also gives the launch dates for Shenzhou 17 to 20!
What chart? I will design a new table if your chart is right! The stay days incease.
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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 25, 2023
« Reply #14 on: 05/12/2023 06:31 am »
It is said the launch date might be on May 29~31.

The chart shows 29 May as the launch date. Also gives the launch dates for Shenzhou 17 to 20!

This seems to be just a notional guess as to the expedition dates given an average time of staying in orbit, after factoring in the handover period as well.
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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 2023
« Reply #15 on: 05/13/2023 03:33 am »
What chart? I will design a new table if your chart is right! The stay days incease.

Your chart! I thought this was an official chart and didn't realise it was one that you made up.
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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 2023
« Reply #16 on: 05/15/2023 02:54 am »
Base on calculation, the laucnch will be possible on date as below, which date do you think? I think it might be May 29.
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1. 2023-05-29 07:59~09:46,Elevation:86°43'26"
2. 2023-05-29 07:59~08:10,Elevation:86°25'20"
3. 2023-05-31 07:30~07:41,Elevation:82°15'17"
4. 2023-05-28 09:02~09:13,Elevation:80°15'52"
5. 2023-05-31 09:07~09:17,Elevation:78°45'32"
6. 2023-05-30 08:33~08:44,Elevation:78°22'18"

if I sort as below,the max possible should be May 30 local time:
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        2023-05-30 06:57~07:07,Elevation:62°48:38"
        2023-05-30 08:33~08:44,Elevation:78°22:18"
        2023-05-30 10:10~10:20,Elevation:53°58:20"
        2023-05-29 09:36~09:46,Elevation:86°43:26"
        2023-05-29 07:59~08:10,Elevation:86°25:20"
        2023-05-31 07:30~07:41,Elevation:82°15:17"
        2023-05-31 09:07~09:17,Elevation:78°45:32"
        2023-05-28 09:02~09:13,Elevation:80°15:52"
        2023-05-28 10:39~10:49,Elevation:72°49:21"
        2023-06-01 06:27~06:38,Elevation:81°17:30"
        2023-06-01 08:04~08:14,Elevation:83°27:00"
« Last Edit: 05/15/2023 03:10 am by mikezang »

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 2023
« Reply #17 on: 05/16/2023 02:52 am »
Someone on the Chinese side has been tracking the CSS orbit and simulates the optimized launch time for a 6.5 hours rendezvous-to-docking profile. According to them, the best T-0 is currently tracking May 30, 01:26:37 UTC +- 1 minute.
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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 2023
« Reply #18 on: 05/16/2023 03:18 am »
According to the latest orbital parameters TLE
1 48274U 21035A 23135.00000000 .00028846 00000-0 33977-3 0 9990
2 48274 41.4752 357.6141 0009429 165.8130 163.5149 15.60221468116658
The Chinese space station (orbital period is about 92.2 minutes) is located in 391 kilometers of space at 2023-05-27 23:54:
Within 100 hours from May 27, 2023, it will pass over Jiuquan on the following days (the elevation angle is greater than 45°):
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         From 08:08 to 08:19 on May 28, 2023, elevation angle: 74°00'20", azimuth angle: south-southeast
         From 09:45 to 09:56 on May 28, 2023, elevation angle: 80°45'47", azimuth angle: true north
         From 11:22 to 11:32 on May 28, 2023, elevation angle: 45°23'40", azimuth angle: south-southwest
         From 07:09 to 07:19 on May 29, 2023, elevation angle: 51°49'59", azimuth angle: south-southeast
         From 08:46 to 08:56 on May 29, 2023, elevation angle: 79°13'33", azimuth angle: true north
         From 10:22 to 10:33 on May 29, 2023, elevation angle: 66°56'57", azimuth angle: south-southwest
         From 07:46 to 07:56 on May 30, 2023, elevation angle: 87°19'33", azimuth angle: north by northwest
         From 09:23 to 09:33 on May 30, 2023, elevation angle: 85°56'42", azimuth angle: west-southwest

         From 06:46 to 06:57 on May 31, 2023, elevation angle: 74°39'57", azimuth angle: south-southeast
         From 08:23 to 08:33 on May 31, 2023, elevation angle: 80°57'50", azimuth angle: true north

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Re: Shenzhou-16 - CZ-2F/G - Jiuquan - May 2023
« Reply #19 on: 05/16/2023 08:49 am »
There are two Ceremony tours, one between May 28~31, one between May 29~June 1, so the May 30 is more possible.

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