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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #40 on: 12/10/2015 07:52 pm »
Another one here at LC-9 photographed on Oct 20:



Year Marked Known
2008 - 2 - 2
2009 - 1 - 1
2010 - 4 - 3 !
2011 - 5 - 4 !
2012 - 6 - 5 !
2013 - 5 - 5
2014 - 6 - 6
2015 - 2 - 2

I believe the plaque did not exist on 14 Nov 2014 but was in place in Dec 2014 with a '27' number in the left upper corner.
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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #41 on: 12/14/2015 08:06 pm »

Year Marked Known
2008 - 2 - 2
2009 - 1 - 1
2010 - 4 - 3 !
2011 - 5 - 4 !
2012 - 6 - 5 !
2013 - 5 - 5
2014 - 6 - 6
2015 - 2 - 2


Within the CZ-4B series the Y-numbers 17, 18 and 19 are still missing. At least Y-17 was really produced - it was spotted at SAST in Shanghai in 2011 (see Go Taikonauts  2/2011). Could it be, that all 3 launch vehicles have been used for suborbital launch tests 2010-2012? Are there any suspicious NOTAMS for this time frame?

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #42 on: 11/22/2016 05:46 pm »
It worth also remembering that the 45th launch of CZ-2/CZ-2C in November 2014 was officially announced as 50th CZ-2C launch since 1974. The larger number (50) obviously include the first two WU-14 vehicles and three other unknown suborbital launches

Another one here at LC-9 photographed on Oct 20:

Year Marked Known
2008 - 2 - 2
2009 - 1 - 1
2010 - 4 - 3 !
2011 - 5 - 4 !
2012 - 6 - 5 !

2013 - 5 - 5
2014 - 6 - 6
2015 - 2 - 2

Coincidence? I do not think so. I think that these three unknown launches from LC9 were those unknown suborbital CZ-2C launches.
We see that there are five missing CZ-2C serial numbers right now: Y22, Y29, Y30, Y33, Y34. I think that CZ-2C rockets used for DF-ZF launches from LC7 had the separate numbers beginning from Y1 due to new modification of rocket for new kind of payload. So three unknown CZ-2C rockets used for three suborbital launches from LC9 in 2012-2014 had numbers among these five missing numbers.
For example, three suborbital CZ-2C rockets had numbers Y22, Y29 and Y30. And other two CZ-2C rockets with numbers Y33 and Y34 are preparing for space launches in future.

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #43 on: 01/16/2017 12:38 pm »
Another one here at LC-9 photographed on Oct 20:



Year Marked Known
2008 - 2 - 2
2009 - 1 - 1
2010 - 4 - 3 !
2011 - 5 - 4 !
2012 - 6 - 5 !
2013 - 5 - 5
2014 - 6 - 6
2015 - 2 - 2

I believe the plaque did not exist on 14 Nov 2014 but was in place in Dec 2014 with a '27' number in the left upper corner.


Another image published on 2016 Dec 24 lists four launches in 2015 (all known orbital) and five in 2016 (only three orbital launches by that date).
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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #44 on: 05/24/2019 10:06 am »
Some construction south-west of the launch pad 9 and east of new assembly buildings.

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #45 on: 09/12/2019 06:35 pm »
South-west of the launch pad 9.

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #46 on: 10/28/2019 12:01 pm »
New photo of buildings north of launch pads.

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #47 on: 11/24/2019 11:24 am »
Some construction south-west of the launch pad 9 and east of new assembly buildings.

Photos of November 22.
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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #48 on: 12/07/2019 09:58 am »
Well, the two KZ-1A launches today ended up flying from different positions. Can someone try to identify which two places they are flying from?

(the second one looks like went away from the flat ground next to Long March 6's LA-16, but that needs confirmation)

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #49 on: 12/07/2019 11:58 am »
I agree with you that the second today's KZ-1A was launched from the launch pad 16.

If we will use this as a fact then we can find approximate location of the first KZ-1A. But I am not sure.

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #50 on: 12/07/2019 09:14 pm »
I see black spot when comparing photos from December 5 and 7.

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #51 on: 06/13/2021 09:42 am »
Status of the new launch complex usually identified as the new Long March 6A pad:

https://twitter.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1404009782940295168

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #52 on: 10/27/2021 01:55 pm »
Another one here at LC-9 photographed on Oct 20:



Year Marked Known
2008 - 2 - 2
2009 - 1 - 1
2010 - 4 - 3 !
2011 - 5 - 4 !
2012 - 6 - 5 !
2013 - 5 - 5
2014 - 6 - 6
2015 - 2 - 2

I believe the plaque did not exist on 14 Nov 2014 but was in place in Dec 2014 with a '27' number in the left upper corner.

Well, we have got another data point for LC-9 at Taiyuan, the hi-res image dated June 11, 2021 (see attached).

Year Marked Known orbital
2008 - 2 - 2
2009 - 1 - 1
2010 - 4 - 3 !
2011 - 5 - 4 !
2012 - 6 - 5 !
2013 - 5 - 5
2014 - 6 - 6
2015 - 4 - 4
2016 - 6 - 4 !!
2017 - 1 - 1
2018 - 6 - 6
2019 - 9 - 7 !!
2020 - 8 - 6 !!
2021 - 1 by June 2021

So, two non-orbital unannounced launches from LC-9 occured in 2019 and two more in 2020.
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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #53 on: 11/23/2021 07:50 pm »
The Nov 20 launch seems to be the 8th launch of 2021 from LC-9, but only 7 orbital launches are known.
Correction: If the mark is put on the plague only after launch, then of course there have been 8 launches in 2021 from LC-9 before Nov 20.
« Last Edit: 11/25/2021 08:07 am by limen4 »

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #54 on: 11/23/2021 08:28 pm »
1. A better quality image is attached below.
2. The table shows eight launches before Nov 20, 2021 -- six known orbital and two suborbital ones.
« Last Edit: 11/23/2021 08:29 pm by Liss »
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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #55 on: 11/24/2021 04:18 am »
2021 launches from Pad 9:
April 8th - CZ-4B Y49 - Shiyuan-6 03
June 11th - CZ-2D Y54 - Beijing-3
July 3rd - CZ-2D Y74 - Jilin-1 Kuanfu-01B
July 27th - CZ-2C - FOBS test
August 18th - CZ-4B Y50 - Tianhui-2 02
September 7th - CZ-4C Y40 - Gaofen-5 02
October 14th - CZ-2D Y52 - Xihe
November 20th - CZ-4B Y52

There's a launch that's missing here. It can't be before the launch on June 11th as there's only one star listed for the April 8th launch at that time. There's not enough time to fit a launch in between the launches on July 11th and July 3rd, July 3rd and July 27th, July 27th and August 18th, August 18th and September 7th. For the CZ-2C Y41 mission from Juiquan, it was mentioned in a press release that they've broken the yearly record for CZ-2C flights of 6 despite only 5 orbital ones being known this year. Evidence emerged of the FOBS test happening on July 27th bringing our total to 6. There could have been another CZ-2C flight either before or after the launch on October 14th.
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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #56 on: 06/09/2022 05:33 am »
I'm not quite sure what's going to be built here, but maybe a new launch pad?
https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1534705374808649728?s

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Re: Taiyuan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #57 on: 08/13/2022 11:17 am »
The attached image from 2022 Aug 04 lists 10 LC-9 launches in 2021 (eight known orbital ones and two suborbitals) and six launches in 2022, of which only 4 were known orbitals.
« Last Edit: 08/13/2022 11:18 am by Liss »
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