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Space Pioneer rockets
« on: 06/16/2021 02:34 pm »
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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #1 on: 06/16/2021 03:57 pm »
Pressure fed engines? That's a lot of gas bottles for a small diameter vehicle.

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #2 on: 09/14/2022 02:17 pm »
SPACE-PIONEER recently conducted gas generator test of the TH-12 kerolox engine, to power the reusable Tianlong-3 rocket. TH-12 is designed to produce 110t thrust at sea level, with 335s Isp in vacuum & 40-110% throttling. A full engine has been assembled for static fire soon..

*It seems the engine is using a staged combustion cycle, so calling it a "pre-burner test" is more appropriate.

An engine similar to CASC's YF-100..

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1570052539982446597

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #3 on: 09/30/2022 10:40 am »
SPACE-PIONEER recently conducted stage separation and hot fire test of the upper (3rd) stage, including attitude control system, of medium-lift Tianlong-2. One more step closer to the maiden launch.

and vibration test too.

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1575713689293901824
« Last Edit: 09/30/2022 10:41 am by Rondaz »

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #4 on: 10/01/2022 02:03 am »
Closer look of Tianlong-2's upper stage.

Chinese firms are usually not as transparent as the ones of other places, but SPACE-PIONEER is definitely one of the most secret. We don't even know the specifications of Tianlong-2, although it seems getting close to its first launch.

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1575905831891001345

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #5 on: 10/01/2022 02:11 am »
SPACE-PIONEER's National Day post shows the first Tianlong-2 is named "Zhangjiagang", the city where SPACE-PIONEER is building a manufacturing base..

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1576001395576098817

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #6 on: 10/02/2022 06:22 am »
TL-2 second stage.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #7 on: 10/16/2022 05:22 pm »
Finally we have more data of the mysterious Tianlong-2:

32.8m tall
5.7m D3.35m fairing
190t liftoff thrust with 7 TH-11(?)
1 300KN closed-cycle kerolox TH-11 vacuum in 2nd stage
TH-31 upper stage for payloads deployment
2t to LEO
1.5t to 500 km SSO

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1581667259012947968

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #8 on: 10/16/2022 09:53 pm »
The maiden launch of Tianlong-2 is planned in 2023..

https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1581698263140352000

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #9 on: 11/02/2022 06:42 am »
« Last Edit: 11/02/2022 06:42 am by jebbo »

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #10 on: 11/05/2022 05:53 am »
https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1588707871214440448

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🔥Space-Pioneer test fires the first stage of Tianlong-2. Still not very clear what engines used except for the kerosene fuel, but it seems there are 3, so each with 65t thrust as the total liftoff thrust is 190t.

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #11 on: 11/06/2022 07:17 am »
https://twitter.com/cnsawatcher/status/1589127022399332353

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Breakthrough of commercial space company SpacePioneer(天兵科技). The first-stage power system test of Tianlong(天龙/HeavenDragon)-2 LOX/Kerasene carrier rocket succeeded in Gongyi, Henan. Tianlong-2 will have 190t take-off thrust & 2t LEO capacity. Full HD:buff.ly/3DIztA6

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #12 on: 11/24/2022 05:58 am »
https://twitter.com/cnsawatcher/status/1595657237988524037

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Commercial space company SpacePioneer(天兵科技) conducted successfully hot test of its TH-12 LOX/Kerosene engine. TH-12 has ground thrust of 110t, ISP of 285s, and thrust-to-weight ratio of 163. Full HD: buff.ly/3gxXMt6

« Last Edit: 11/24/2022 06:29 am by FutureSpaceTourist »

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #13 on: 12/20/2022 07:38 am »
twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1605119401119793152

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SPACE-PIONEER recently completed a separation test of Tianlong-2's payload fairing. The press release mentions there's no damage on the fairing and it will be used in the maiden launch.
As LANDSPACE'S ZHUQUE-2 failed to reach orbit, Tianlong-2 is now very hopeful to be 1st

https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1605119403808342021

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liquid fueled rocket developed by a commercial company in China
twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/…

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #14 on: 01/04/2023 12:14 pm »
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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #15 on: 01/04/2023 12:57 pm »
Couple more shots:

https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1610635792417976322

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👀 SPACE-PIONEER's Tianlong-2 Y1 is vertical
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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #16 on: 01/04/2023 03:09 pm »
;D
Looks like Y1 has 3 engine first stage. I guess the reusable version will debut the 7 engine first stage.
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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #17 on: 01/11/2023 02:05 am »
https://twitter.com/CNSpaceflight/status/1612995003000950784
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SPACE-PIONEER recently conducted 5 hot fire tests for 2000s of their 30-t thrust staged combustion cycle kerolox engine TH-11

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #18 on: 01/18/2023 05:55 am »
https://twitter.com/aj_fi/status/1615601151994650624

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Could this be China's first commercial liquid propulsion rocket to reach orbit? Space Pioneer has completed WDR tests of its first Tianlong-2 rocket at a site near Tianjin. Launch from Jiuquan in the future. mp.weixin.qq.com/s/0laUIyujzNkE…

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #19 on: 02/12/2023 01:20 pm »
https://twitter.com/aj_fi/status/1624775256589185025

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Heads up. Space Pioneer's Tianlong-2 rocket is expected to launch from Jiuquan before the end of March and, if successful, would be China's first commercially developed liquid propellant rocket to reach orbit. weibo.com/tv/show/1034:4…

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #20 on: 02/15/2023 02:22 pm »

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #21 on: 02/15/2023 02:23 pm »

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #22 on: 02/15/2023 02:27 pm »

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #23 on: 02/16/2023 04:14 am »
Three engines on the first stage in a triangular configuration. Is that a first? The Atlas had three engines, but in a linear configuration.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #24 on: 02/16/2023 04:32 am »
Three engines on the first stage in a triangular configuration. Is that a first? The Atlas had three engines, but in a linear configuration.
Used on STS orbiting vehicles. In terms of design versus flown there are several designs drafted but only STS has flown. I personally do not count Atlas because two are high thrust booster engines ehich are jettisoned before the central one and one is ground to vacuum sustainer engine.
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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #25 on: 02/16/2023 04:39 am »
Doh! Completely forgot about the Space Shuttle. Of course, that had two large boosters lifting it off the pad, while TL-2 is a single core.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #26 on: 02/18/2023 05:53 am »
Three engines on the first stage in a triangular configuration. Is that a first? The Atlas had three engines, but in a linear configuration.
The JAXA H3 launcher have a variant (H3-30) with 3 LE-9 engines arranged in triangular configuration in the 1st stage.

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #27 on: 02/18/2023 08:51 am »
Three engines on the first stage in a triangular configuration. Is that a first? The Atlas had three engines, but in a linear configuration.

Although not obvious, the R-16 / R-36 / Tsiklon missiles and rockets had this too. It was obscured by the fact that each engine had two nozzles.

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #28 on: 03/16/2023 10:57 am »
https://twitter.com/raz_liu/status/1636332654231691264

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Tianlong-2 of Space Pioneer at JSLC via weibo Polis城邦工作室

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #29 on: 07/05/2023 08:42 am »
twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1676471599414001664

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SPACE-PIONEER announces that they recently completed a C round fund raising of several hundreds of millions of Chinese Yuan for the development of Tianlong-3.
The press release also mentions they have signed contracts of 10 Tianlong-2 launches mp.weixin.qq.com/s/F9muPtZCv1w0…

https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1676510226479185921

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While SPACE-PIONEER targets 2024 for the first launch of Tianlong-3, they envision being able to launch 30+ times per year starting 2025

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #30 on: 07/14/2023 04:39 am »
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Chinese aerospace company #SpacePioneer plans to launch a rocket comparable to SpaceX’s #Falcon9 next year.
The two-stage Tianlong-3 rocket is fueled by kerosene-liquid oxygen. It has a #reusable first stage, which uses seven TH-12 engines. Its second stage uses a TH-12V engine.

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« Reply #31 on: 10/07/2023 04:05 pm »
https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1710673079884824925

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🔥 SPACE-PIONEER completed a Long duration test of a TH-12 kerolox engine sampled from a batch production

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #32 on: 10/29/2023 03:45 pm »
https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1718670006945509651

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👀 The second Tianlong-2 has been transported from Tianjin to Zhangjiagang for assembling in SPACE-PIONEER's new manufacturing base. Launch planned for 2024

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« Reply #33 on: 11/09/2023 07:03 am »
https://twitter.com/cnsawatcher/status/1722524706073456658

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Space Pioneer’s Tianlong-3 rocket, with 7 Tianhuo-12 LOX/kerosene engines on 1st stage, targets a June 2024 maiden flight. It's designed for satellite internet infrastructure, comparable to Falcon 9, with significant payload capacity and reusable engines. https://m.weibo.cn/detail/4965767747734283

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« Reply #34 on: 11/30/2023 06:49 pm »
https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1730274941197484237

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🚀 A leaked photo shows SPACE-PIONEER is targeting next June for the maiden launch of Tianlong-3, 14t to 500km SSO, from Wenchang commercial launch pad#2, which is still under construction. 2 more launches are planned for September & November from Wenchang & Jiuquan, 11t to 800km

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« Reply #35 on: 12/11/2023 06:32 am »
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According to the latest interview of Space Pioneer's CEO. They have invested three Tianlong-3 rockets. The first one start to assembly & Maiden flight is still target June 2024. After the maiden flight they plan to build more than 10 TL-3 for the second batch.

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« Reply #37 on: 01/15/2024 07:33 am »

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Re: Space Pioneer rockets
« Reply #38 on: 01/16/2024 04:21 am »
I get a "This video is private" for the above video.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

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