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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #20 on: 07/07/2021 12:30 pm »
Well, what was the source of the 95A and 95B designations for commercial launch pads at Jiuquan?

The designations are commonly used by the Spaceflightfans.cn page.

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #21 on: 07/07/2021 12:38 pm »
Well, what was the source of the 95A and 95B designations for commercial launch pads at Jiuquan?

The designations are commonly used by the Spaceflightfans.cn page.
I see :-) but the question was where they found it initially -- and the second was of matching 95A and 95B vs. two first KZ-1 orbital launches.
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #22 on: 07/07/2021 03:31 pm »
Well, what was the source of the 95A and 95B designations for commercial launch pads at Jiuquan?

The designations are commonly used by the Spaceflightfans.cn page.
I see :-) but the question was where they found it initially -- and the second was of matching 95A and 95B vs. two first KZ-1 orbital launches.
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #23 on: 07/08/2021 09:11 am »
Is it correct that 95A is the eastern area (2013 KZ-1) and 95B is the western area (2014 KZ-2 and many others)?
Can you point to a photo/video with numbered cameras?
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #24 on: 07/08/2021 07:14 pm »
It is vice versa, 95A is the west and (very likely) 95B the eastern launch position.

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #25 on: 07/08/2021 08:23 pm »
Thank you very much.
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #26 on: 07/18/2021 08:10 am »
It is vice versa, 95A is the west and (very likely) 95B the eastern launch position.

Sorry for the possibly dumb question, but these 95A and 95B pads are just different designation for the SLS1 and SLS2 ones in the case of commercial launches or they're actual pads? If that was the case, could someone point their position on an aerial image of the Jiuquan site? Thanks

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #27 on: 07/19/2021 05:47 pm »
It is vice versa, 95A is the west and (very likely) 95B the eastern launch position.

Sorry for the possibly dumb question, but these 95A and 95B pads are just different designation for the SLS1 and SLS2 ones in the case of commercial launches or they're actual pads? If that was the case, could someone point their position on an aerial image of the Jiuquan site? Thanks
They are actual pads.
« Last Edit: 07/19/2021 05:49 pm by limen4 »

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #28 on: 08/03/2021 08:55 am »
It is vice versa, 95A is the west and (very likely) 95B the eastern launch position.

Sorry for the possibly dumb question, but these 95A and 95B pads are just different designation for the SLS1 and SLS2 ones in the case of commercial launches or they're actual pads? If that was the case, could someone point their position on an aerial image of the Jiuquan site? Thanks
They are actual pads.

I've been trying to track all the orbital launches (or attempts) that took place from those pads by checking several sources (Gunter's Space Page, Spaceflightfans.cn, Weebau.com) and this is what I got so far:
- from pad 95A: the first Kuaizhou-1 launch in 2013, the Ceres-1 maiden flight in 2020 and today's SQX-1 launch
- from pad 95B: the second Kuaizhou-2 launch in 2014, all but two (that took off from Taiyuan) of the Kuaizhou-1A launches (though I'm not 100% sure about them), the OS-M1 and Jielong-1 maiden flights in 2019 and the second SQX-1 launch in February 2021

I couldn't find anything about the SQX-1 maiden flight in 2019 and the Kuaizhou-11 maiden flight in 2020 (this one maybe from the newly built launch tower highlited by Galactic Penguin earlier in this thread?)

Can someone confirm or correct these data?

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #29 on: 08/03/2021 03:28 pm »
Can someone confirm or correct these data?

The east pad was used for two KZ-1 launches in 2012 and 2013, all other orbital launches used the west pad including SQX-1 and KZ-11 launches.

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #30 on: 11/03/2021 08:27 am »
There are 76 stars listed on the "Launch History" of the LC-94 launch tower at JSLC before today's launch of YG-32-02. That's strange as I counted 79 launches out of there including today's one...  ::)
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #31 on: 11/03/2021 06:10 pm »
It seems they put the stars in groups of four.
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #32 on: 11/05/2021 12:40 pm »
It looks like the new site for liquid fueled rockets at Jiuquan is to the southwest of the existing LM-2/4 pads?
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To add to this, some updated satellite imagery from last month.
https://twitter.com/Harry__Stranger/status/1456609498454319113?s

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #33 on: 11/23/2021 07:34 pm »
There are 76 stars listed on the "Launch History" of the LC-94 launch tower at JSLC before today's launch of YG-32-02. That's strange as I counted 79 launches out of there including today's one...  ::)
Two more stars appeared on the wall during the recent launch: #77 (CZ-2C Y51) and #78 (CZ-2C Y41)
« Last Edit: 11/25/2021 05:55 pm by limen4 »

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #34 on: 11/24/2021 01:14 am »
There are 76 stars listed on the "Launch History" of the LC-94 launch tower at JSLC before today's launch of YG-32-02. That's strange as I counted 79 launches out of there including today's one...  ::)
Two more stars appeared on the wall during the recent launch: #77 (CZ-2C Y41) and #78 (CZ-4C Y37)

So I checked back on the source and it turns out the photo I posted above was from one launch campaign earlier (CZ-2C/RSW on August 24). Now the number of stars match with the number of successes from there - no. 77 for CZ-2C/RSW on August 24 and no. 78 for CZ-2C/YG-32-02 on November 3. We should see a 79th for GF-3-02 during the next launch campaign from that pad.

Of course failures donít count and thereís one from there (CZ-2C/SJ-11-04 in 2011).
« Last Edit: 11/24/2021 01:15 am by Galactic Penguin SST »
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #35 on: 12/13/2021 10:33 am »
Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center. Site 9401 (SLS-2).
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #36 on: 02/14/2022 08:53 am »
Of course failures donít count and thereís one from there (CZ-2C/SJ-11-04 in 2011).

Yet in a 83th launch image (2022 Jan 25/26), we can see 82 stars. So the failure did count but the roster was not updated after each launch -- but this time it was up-to-date.

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #37 on: 04/07/2022 07:22 am »
85 stars before today's launch which seems to be correct. Each star has a reading below it probably describing the launch.
« Last Edit: 04/07/2022 07:25 am by Liss »
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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #38 on: 05/22/2022 03:24 am »
I donít see anything that fits with the photos for ďSite 130Ē, the ZK-1 pad. Can someone try to identify where that is?

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Re: Jiuquan Satellite Launch Center
« Reply #39 on: 05/22/2022 05:48 am »
I don’t see anything that fits with the photos for “Site 130”, the ZK-1 pad. Can someone try to identify where that is?

https://twitter.com/cnspaceflight/status/1528206124029124608?s=21&t=umrXXZzMurozNDM-QBAeJA
Theoretically 43/130 is the probable designation. The launch complex number is 130 and the above ground/underground structures within 130 should start at number 1301 which is normally the pads GSE and service tower building or TEL launch position GSE hookups panel.  Their are 45/1xx series designations within 45. Now 130/xx I'm do not know where that would be. Someone should check the old coordinates in various posts left by anik in this and other threads and do a comparison. The CAS Space site also shows aged concrete and new concrete of their ZK-1 family TEL site.

Edit for ZQ-2 complex data (:The lat long coordinates for ZQ-2 complex are 40/100 on the latest satellite imagery
It seems from the latest Sentinel images the Chinese have finished asphalting the road between the test position and the launch site. Compare images for May 20 and May 30:
« Last Edit: 05/31/2022 04:41 pm by russianhalo117 »

 

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