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[SpaceNews Nov. 11, 2015] Telesat Secures an Anchor for Telstar 19 Vantage Broadband Satellite
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Satellite fleet operator Telesat of Canada on Nov. 11 said it would purchase a Ku-/Ka-band broadband satellite, called Telstar 19 Vantage, to be stationed at 63 degrees west over Latin America now that it had secured an anchor customer in EchoStar’s Hughes Network Systems...

Germantown, Maryland-based Hughes, in its own announcement, said it had agreed to lease a large portion of Telstar 19 Vantage’s Ka-band — a total of 31 gigabits per second of throughput — for 15 years, with the satellite to be launched in early 2018...

Hughes said the Telesat capacity would be used for consumer broadband throughout Latin America, not just Brazil. Hughes officials have said 24 gigabits per second of throughput on Eutelsat’s satellite would serve 300,000 customers in Brazil...

Ottawa-based Telesat said Telstar 19 Vantage will carry more Ka-band than has been leased by Hughes, with the additional capacity to be directed to markets in Northern Canada, the Caribbean and the North Atlantic Ocean. A Ku-band payload will be aimed at high-throughput and conventional wideband markets in Brazil, the Andean region and the North Atlantic Ocean.

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Telesat Press Release 1 / Telesat Press Release 2
Telesat Telstar 19 Vantage page

[Spaceflight Now Feb. 26, 2016] Telesat launch agreements awarded to SpaceX
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The Canadian telecom satellite operator Telesat plans to launch two multipurpose communications spacecraft aboard SpaceX Falcon rockets in 2018, the company disclosed this week in a quarterly earnings announcement.

A spokesperson for the Ottawa-based company said the new satellites, named Telstar 18 Vantage and Telstar 19 Vantage, would fly aboard Falcon 9 rockets.

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estimated end-of-life mass of 3031 kg

Telstar 19 Vantage on Gunter's Space Page
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Telesat Signs Long Term Contract with Bell Canada for Telstar 19 VANTAGE HTS Capacity
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OTTAWA, CANADA, September 15, 2017 – Telesat announced today that Bell Canada has signed a 15-year contract for substantially all of the HTS spot beam capacity over northern Canada on Telesat’s new Telstar 19 VANTAGE satellite. Bell Canada subsidiary Northwestel will use the capacity to dramatically enhance broadband connectivity for communities in Nunavut, Canada’s northernmost territory.

Telstar 19 VANTAGE is currently being built by Space Systems Loral in Palo Alto, CA. The satellite is scheduled to launch in the second quarter of 2018 on a SpaceX Falcon 9 rocket and will be co-located with Telesat’s Telstar 14R satellite at 63 degrees West, a prime orbital slot for coverage of the Americas. Once operational, Telstar 19 VANTAGE will have six distinct coverages over the Americas and North Atlantic and the most capacity in Gbps of any satellite in Telesat’s fleet.

The long-term agreement with Bell Canada marks another major pre-sale of HTS capacity on Telstar 19 VANTAGE. As previously announced, Hughes Network Systems LLC has contracted for all the South American high throughput Ka-band capacity of Telstar 19 VANTAGE. Combining Bell Canada’s long term contract with other customer commitments, Telesat has now signed long term contracts for the entire Ka-band HTS capacity on Telstar 19 VANTAGE over Northern Canada.

“The significant investment Telesat has made in Telstar 19 VANTAGE is the latest example of our decades-long record of committing major capital resources to bring advanced communications to Canada and its Northern communities” said Michele Beck, Telesat’s Vice President North American Sales. “Telesat is pleased to have concluded this important agreement with Bell Canada that will bring twenty times more capacity to the region using our new powerful, state-of-the-art satellite.”     

“Our agreement with Telesat is another example of Bell’s commitment to work closely with our country’s technology leaders to roll out innovative communications network solutions that benefit Canadians everywhere,” said Stephen Howe, Bell’s Chief Technology Officer. “We look forward to delivering enhanced broadband services to Canada’s North with the new Telstar 19 VANTAGE satellite.”

Northwestel plans to implement new and improved broadband for communities across Nunavut, one of the most difficult regions in the world to serve, beginning in the second half of 2018.

“Making high-quality broadband services available to remote communities across the vast expanse of Canada’s north is a huge challenge,” said Curtis Shaw, Chief Operating Officer, Northwestel. “Northwestel looks forward to utilizing the power and capabilities of Telesat’s new state-of-the-art Telstar 19 VANTAGE satellite as part of our commitment to connect 25 communities across Nunavut to faster and more reliable broadband over the next two years.”

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If the weight is around 5-6mTs, then Block 5 could probably land it ballistic. Block 4 might even be able to land on a 6mT mission, but that's just a guess and I have absolutely no evidence to back that up.

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Last week, the Telstar 19 VANTAGE satellite began testing in our TVAC, an environment designed to simulate the harsh conditions of space.

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According to some links below, the launch date of Telstar 19 should be June 17 form SLC 40. Any update on that date would be very welcome.

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https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=43418.0
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45440.msg1814955#msg1814955
https://www.rocketlaunch.live/launch/telstar-19

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Guessing this isn't making a NET June 17 as there has been no news of the payload reaching the Cape. Anyone have an update?

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Guessing this isn't making a NET June 17 as there has been no news of the payload reaching the Cape. Anyone have an update?

The next 3 GTO payloads are from SSL so they'll be trucked to the Cape, we may not get any notification of them arriving.  It's easier to track them when they're getting flown in on Antonovs from Europe or Japan.  This one is looking like July now.

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Guessing this isn't making a NET June 17 as there has been no news of the payload reaching the Cape. Anyone have an update?

The next 3 GTO payloads are from SSL so they'll be trucked to the Cape, we may not get any notification of them arriving.  It's easier to track them when they're getting flown in on Antonovs from Europe or Japan.  This one is looking like July now.
It is my understanding that the 2 Telestar data may ship out together as they will launch close together.

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Guessing this isn't making a NET June 17 as there has been no news of the payload reaching the Cape. Anyone have an update?

The next 3 GTO payloads are from SSL so they'll be trucked to the Cape, we may not get any notification of them arriving.  It's easier to track them when they're getting flown in on Antonovs from Europe or Japan.  This one is looking like July now.
It is my understanding that the 2 Telestar data may ship out together as they will launch close together.

That would make sense.  The SSL payload preparation folks are going to be spending a lot of time at the Cape in the near future.

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This is probably 1047 *The ends of Invention* on its way to the Cape for this launch

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HAWTHORNE, Calif. – June 11, 2018. Media accreditation is now open for SpaceX's Telstar 19 VANTAGE mission from Space Launch Complex 40 (SLC-40) at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station in Florida. The launch is targeted for no earlier than July. 
 
A Falcon 9 rocket will deliver Telstar 19 VANTAGE to a geostationary transfer orbit (GTO).

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Any word on whether the payload has arrived at the Cape yet?

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Update thread now live as we have the launch date NET (July 19) :

https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=45842.0
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SSL wants to fly Telstar 19V to the Cape on an AN-124 but DOT hasn't approved the application.  SSL filed a letter on the 13th asking them to reconsider and allow a flight on the 15th, but it doesn't look like that happened.  Looks like they're hoping to fly in the next few days now if they can get permission.
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SSL wants to fly Telstar 19V to the Cape on an AN-124 but DOT hasn't approved the application.  SSL filed a letter on the 13th asking them to reconsider and allow a flight on the 15th, but it doesn't look like that happened.  Looks like they're hoping to fly in the next few days now if they can get permission.

The initial application to fly Telstar 19V to the Cape was filed on May 1, with a ship date of May 16-19.  Then there was an amendment on May 3 asking to change the shipment to May 21-25, an amendment on May 10 asking to change the shipment to Jun 1-6, an amendment on May 17 asking to change the shipment to June 20-25, and an amendment on June 4 asking to change the shipment to June 15-20.

While all of this was going on, they also applied on May 4 to fly Telstar 18V to the Cape between May 31 and June 6.  That request was granted on May 30 but the flight unsurprisingly didn't happen.

edit:  just noticed the paperwork for Telstar 19V says "The Telstar 19V satellite in MARVIN/CENTAURUS/SCORPIUS Spacecraft shipping container, and supporting equipment, measures approximately L-183" x W-64" x H164",
weighing approx. 71,000 pounds." but the paperwork for Telstar 18V says "The Telstar 18V satellite in CENTAURUS shipping container, and supporting equipment, measures approximately L-504" x W-192" x H-165", weighing approx. 156,800 pounds."  The numbers on the 19V paperwork don't look right.
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So, the history of applications - what does it mean?
Does it give a hint that something's wrong with the satellite?
Or something was wrong with the application (paperwork)?

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There is an An-124 at Moffett Field right now.  Hopefully they got their paperwork done.

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That An-124 should get to the Cape in about 3 hours.  Assuming it has a satellite on board.

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The Antonov AN-124 touched down at the Shuttle Landing Facility at 12:51 PM local.

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The DOT approval paperwork.

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