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When was flown the first CMG ?
« on: 08/31/2025 09:25 am »
Hi everyone,

The first Soviet satellite using a Control Moment Gyro was Omega-1, aka Cosmos-14, launched in 1963.

But I wonder what was its US counter part ? When was flown the first US satellite using a CMG to orientate itself ?

Thank you very much !
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #1 on: 08/31/2025 09:49 am »
Probably the best reference to Soviet Rocketry is Chertok's Memoirs which can be obtained from the NASA Library.

He was one of the GNC Gurus under Korolyev.

Note that the Soviet Astronauts did not control their spacecraft until after their third flight (the first three landed by parachute) and even then the first docks were automated!
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #2 on: 08/31/2025 09:58 am »
Probably the best reference to Soviet Rocketry is Chertok's Memoirs which can be obtained from the NASA Library.

He was one of the GNC Gurus under Korolyev.

Note that the Soviet Astronauts did not control their spacecraft until after their third flight (the first three landed by parachute) and even then the first docks were automated!
Regards Glen


No doubt about this, but my question is about American GNC :D
« Last Edit: 08/31/2025 11:29 am by Nicolas PILLET »
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #3 on: 08/31/2025 12:16 pm »
CMGs or reaction wheels?

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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #4 on: 08/31/2025 01:22 pm »
CMGs or reaction wheels?

CMG.
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #6 on: 08/31/2025 03:01 pm »
Really ? There was no test before on a 'random' satellite, less valuable than Skylab ?

This seems quite surprising to me.
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #7 on: 08/31/2025 03:08 pm »
Really ? There was no test before on a 'random' satellite, less valuable than Skylab ?

This seems quite surprising to me.

I don't question Jim's knowledge with this; I was anticipating he would respond to this.
It's Tony De La Rosa, ...I don't create this stuff, I report it. (now a moderator too - Watch out).

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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #8 on: 08/31/2025 03:12 pm »
I don't question too ! :D

I just feel surprised that the Soviets had this idea back in 1955 for the first Vostok protoyype (it was finally not used), actually flew it in 1963, whereas the Americans didn't fly it before 1973.

I wonder why it was considered useful on one side and useless on the other side, since physics laws are the same on both sides of the Pacific ocean.
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #9 on: 09/01/2025 08:57 am »
I have a Russian source saying that Nimbus in 1964 was the first US spacecraft with CMG. I cannot find confirmation of this in US sources, but I've found this document with an extract that we could interprete as a confirmation...
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #10 on: 09/01/2025 09:07 am »
I think this is a confirmation...
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #11 on: 09/02/2025 12:35 pm »
I think this is a confirmation...

No, reaction wheels.
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Re: When was flown the first CMG ?
« Reply #12 on: 09/02/2025 02:19 pm »
Thank you, Jim.

So, actually I think I was wrong : Omega didn't have CMG, but reaction wheels.

So it means that :
- USSR launched its first reaction wheel-controlled satellite in 1963 (Omega-1), the US in 1964 (Nimbus 1)
- USSR launched its first CMG in April 1973 (Salyut-2), but the mission was a failure. The second attempt (Salyut-3) was a success in June 1974.
- The US launched its first CMG in May 1973 (Skylab).
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