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ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« on: 01/25/2015 12:21 am »
A thread to stop the other ASDS threads being turned into "How about they call it something I've just thought up because Elon's going to see it here and think "SWEEEEET NAME DUDE!" ;)

Yes, Elon (and others at the top) read this site and the forum. No, they are not F5 mashing the SpaceX threads to see what everyone has to say! ;D

Anyway, go nuts.....
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: 01/25/2015 12:45 am »
I just hope the Culture precedent holds with SpaceX's reusable launch vehicles.  ;D

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: 01/25/2015 01:13 am »
If booster recovery becomes routine, maybe they will start naming them?
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: 01/25/2015 01:23 am »
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #4 on: 01/25/2015 01:33 am »
It would be interesting if there were different themes for naming boosters and dragons.  Give the Dragons a "dragon" theme, perhaps, and the boosters a bird raptor theme?


So maybe we'll see "Chrysophylax Dives" sitting on top of the Kārearea.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #5 on: 01/25/2015 01:36 am »
In keeping with the existing naming memes expressed by Elon and SpaceX

Places the Millenium Falcon has been known to land
1) Mos Eisley
2) Bespin
3) Yavin

Arthurian Legend
4) Excaliber
5) Arthur Pendragon
6) Camelot

Dragon related
7) Aerie
8) Benden Weyr
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #6 on: 01/25/2015 01:41 am »
How many more barges might we expect to see?  I'm thinking one more at the most, for Boca Chica.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #7 on: 01/25/2015 03:55 am »
Hate to ask this in a party thread, but can they actually renaming the barge, I mean officially? I thought they're leasing it, and it already has a name.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #8 on: 01/25/2015 04:26 am »
About a month ago, I had a dream that I was in an airliner flying out of San Diego and I saw below me the west coast SpaceX barge.  I was SO excited to have a scoop for this forum, that I pulled out my phone and tried to take a picture, but the phone did everything but work right and we flew away.  Considering my predictive skills, I think we can safely assume that "Of Course I Still Love You" is being built anywhere BUT San Diego!
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #9 on: 01/25/2015 06:54 am »
Poor forum mods, caught between the Rock of people coming up with silly ship names and the hard place of elon musk having done it first!
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #10 on: 01/25/2015 12:31 pm »
 A simple and descriptive yet elegant name for the barge would be bob.    :D    If Elon wanted to credit me with coming up with it they could call it the Bobr.  ;D

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #11 on: 01/25/2015 01:07 pm »
I'm hoping that once crewed dragon comes online, they assign individual names to each capsule.

Assuming there is a 3rd ASDS; Jump Zero

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #12 on: 01/25/2015 01:19 pm »
The name "Poke It With A Stick" spring to mind.  :)

(General Contact Unit from Look to Windward - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series#Look_to_Windward)
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #13 on: 01/25/2015 01:30 pm »
As flat as a Pancake landing.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #14 on: 01/25/2015 01:52 pm »
Okay, so as a result of the discussion here, I'm reading my first Culture book - I'd missed that series, somehow. 

But I'm surprised that the Culture, which incorporates high level AI minds, would be used as the template for ships Elon (who has voiced deep skepticism of the wisdom of unleashing high level AI minds) has named.

Maybe I'll understand better after a day of reading while son is snowboarding ...
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #15 on: 01/25/2015 04:58 pm »
In the original thread was this comment:

Quote from: OxCartMark on Today at 09:28 AM "So where would be a likely port location for ~Love?"

That question gave me a bit of deja vu... I am tempted to consider using the trite nickname "Love Boat" but understand full well the potential misdirection of the nickname "Lovecraft."  :-\
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #16 on: 01/25/2015 06:42 pm »
@elonmusk

'Repairs almost done on the spaceport drone ship and have given it the name "Just Read the Instructions"'

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Whatever.... still 2 weeks to wait   :(

Dang, hat tip for one of my two favorite authors (other being Peter F. Hamilton).  Sad we won't see any more Culture novels.  Now, if Elon gets to Mars and there is a wormhole from California already there then I'll know the Sci Fi crowd is working with him.

As for mention of the west coast ship and any possible differences, I believe you'll see both ships evolve over time.  Just look at SLC-40, there have been plenty of upgrades there since the first F9 flew and I bet you'll see both drone ships change as well as new capabilities are added.  Probably more on the electronics side but also possible on the mechanical.

Imagine adding a snare tie down system like the robot arm latches, three wires pulled in from different angles to secure the rocket body.  Obviously not there now but if they loose any rockets over the side after a successful landing they may look at remote systems for securing it.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #17 on: 01/25/2015 07:16 pm »
Okay, so as a result of the discussion here, I'm reading my first Culture book - I'd missed that series, somehow. 

But I'm surprised that the Culture, which incorporates high level AI minds, would be used as the template for ships Elon (who has voiced deep skepticism of the wisdom of unleashing high level AI minds) has named.

Maybe I'll understand better after a day of reading while son is snowboarding ...

Quite probably because they are just really fun names.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #18 on: 01/25/2015 07:24 pm »
Hey Elon, if you're going to name the ASDS' ship's cat, consider "Flea-bus."

I sometimes call my dog that.

But nobody should infer that I therefore use it as my forum password. Really.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #19 on: 01/25/2015 08:04 pm »
Okay, so as a result of the discussion here, I'm reading my first Culture book


Same!  ;D
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #20 on: 01/25/2015 09:27 pm »
Thanks for creating a separate thread, Chris.

This is a whole 'nother step up in geek cred, and I didn't think there was any room left to grow in that direction.

RIP, Iain M Banks, of course.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #21 on: 01/25/2015 09:39 pm »
Yup, out of sheer curiosity:

Consider Phlebas
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arriving today...   No expectations, but the ship names are understatedly hilarious.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #22 on: 01/25/2015 09:44 pm »
In the original thread was this comment:

Quote from: OxCartMark on Today at 09:28 AM "So where would be a likely port location for ~Love?"

That question gave me a bit of deja vu... I am tempted to consider using the trite nickname "Love Boat" but understand full well the potential misdirection of the nickname "Lovecraft."  :-\

That does seem Highly Possible ... ;)

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #23 on: 01/25/2015 09:50 pm »

Dragon related

8) Benden Weyr

Gwynne has got to love this idea; name the Launch Complex Boca Chica Weyr, and each Pad(s) is a Dragon Lair appropriately named at the time ;-) of course then there is the naming of the MCC and other buildings... She could have a ball, frustrating Elon with the names ;-) Come on Gwynne... IRISH GIRRRRL POWERRRR!!!

Gramps, Tapping into his Irish roots  ;D
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #24 on: 01/26/2015 06:30 am »
They should've named it Porosus as it rests by the riverside, isn't afraid of venturing in salt water. Has thick tough skin, is powerful and waits patiently with its huge flat back exposed  ;D Also it rhymes with Horus(Falcon god in ancient Egypt)!
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #25 on: 01/26/2015 06:41 am »
Okay, so as a result of the discussion here, I'm reading my first Culture book - I'd missed that series, somehow. 

But I'm surprised that the Culture, which incorporates high level AI minds, would be used as the template for ships Elon (who has voiced deep skepticism of the wisdom of unleashing high level AI minds) has named.

Maybe I'll understand better after a day of reading while son is snowboarding ...

Quite probably because they are just really fun names.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #26 on: 01/26/2015 07:13 am »
Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars? Nope, that's Kim Stanley Robinson.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #27 on: 01/26/2015 07:19 am »

Dragon related

8) Benden Weyr

Gwynne has got to love this idea; name the Launch Complex Boca Chica Weyr, and each Pad(s) is a Dragon Lair appropriately named at the time ;-) of course then there is the naming of the MCC and other buildings... She could have a ball, frustrating Elon with the names ;-) Come on Gwynne... IRISH GIRRRRL POWERRRR!!!

Gramps, Tapping into his Irish roots  ;D

Hmmm, by your logic gramps that means the 4000+ ElonSat constellation should be called MoretaNet  ;D

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #28 on: 01/26/2015 02:51 pm »

Dragon related

8) Benden Weyr

Gwynne has got to love this idea; name the Launch Complex Boca Chica Weyr, and each Pad(s) is a Dragon Lair appropriately named at the time ;-) of course then there is the naming of the MCC and other buildings... She could have a ball, frustrating Elon with the names ;-) Come on Gwynne... IRISH GIRRRRL POWERRRR!!!

Gramps, Tapping into his Irish roots  ;D

Hmmm, by your logic gramps that means the 4000+ ElonSat constellation should be called MoretaNet  ;D

Similarly, the first manned Dragon should be named 'Ruth'  - after-all, it is the name of the White Dragon ;D

Ooo... forgot about one thing... Probably won't name anything AIVAS :)

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« Reply #29 on: 01/26/2015 04:01 pm »
Red Mars, Green Mars, Blue Mars? Nope, that's Kim Stanley Robinson.
Woops... I don't know how I got those confused.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #30 on: 01/27/2015 03:10 am »
Maybe there could be a reference to other literature:

For example since this provides a way for the returning stage to not get wet, it could be

the "Catcher in the Dry".  ;D
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #31 on: 01/27/2015 04:47 am »
I'm going to have to read these books too. There are a lot of great ship names.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series

For the Boca Chica version :You Would If You Really Loved Me

i also like the Dragon naming for spacecraft convention.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dragons

For a really rich collection of stuff to name, how about naming each of the 4000+ satellites of the SpaceX constellation. For a start how about a name for the whole system.

I think the obvious name is Skynet since it's so dead on descriptive. The Terminator killer AI reference just makes it more interesting.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #32 on: 01/27/2015 05:43 am »
For a really rich collection of stuff to name, how about naming each of the 4000+ satellites of the SpaceX constellation. For a start how about a name for the whole system.

I think the obvious name is Skynet since it's so dead on descriptive. The Terminator killer AI reference just makes it more interesting.

I'm surprised the name Hypernet hasn't caught on.

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« Reply #33 on: 01/27/2015 07:11 am »
For a really rich collection of stuff to name, how about naming each of the 4000+ satellites of the SpaceX constellation. For a start how about a name for the whole system.

I think the obvious name is Skynet since it's so dead on descriptive. The Terminator killer AI reference just makes it more interesting.

I'm surprised the name Hypernet hasn't caught on.

I like that. Kinda classic and descriptive.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #34 on: 01/27/2015 04:45 pm »
In keeping with the Celtic notion:  Tuatha De Elon  ....... okay back to my poteen.
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« Reply #35 on: 01/27/2015 10:19 pm »
I think the obvious name is Skynet since it's so dead on descriptive. The Terminator killer AI reference just makes it more interesting.

The name is already in use. It's probably not commercially wise to risk confusion in the minds of other governments with a Western military constellation.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #36 on: 01/30/2015 02:15 am »
I have to say, I love she sheer whimsey of naming ASDS "Just Read the Instructions".

In related news, there's what appears to be a photo of the name painted on ASDS.
That photo is stunningly similar to one we've seen before. However, it's from Elon Musk's twitter, so I'm assuming that counts as an official SpaceX release?
 
(Swiped from the ASDS thread, and thanks to LARS-J for posting it;)
http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36326.msg1322989#msg1322989

From the ASDS thread;
But the images are not identical, look at the person between the yellow and white rings, he/she moved, and the other person at the far right of the deck. Granted it's hard to believe the words could be pained in such a short time that the shadows have not changed substantially.

The images look like they were taken several seconds apart. Clearly, this is evidence that SpaceX has achieved an earth-shaking technical breakthrough in high-speed-ship-name-painting technology.  ;)

Actually, my guess; it's what they plan to do or are doing right now, and the photoshop is to show what it'll look like.

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« Reply #37 on: 01/30/2015 02:33 am »
Musk seems to have a love of various sci-fi franchises.

While it seems like Falcon rocket family was named after the Millenium Falcon of Star Wars fame, I think it would be cool if the first pair of ASDS ships could be named Daedalus and Prometheus:



Then mission controllers could announce "Daedalus maneuver in 3, 2, 1 ..."  ;D

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« Reply #38 on: 01/30/2015 04:05 am »
Musk seems to have a love of various sci-fi franchises.

While it seems like Falcon rocket family was named after the Millenium Falcon of Star Wars fame, I think it would be cool if the first pair of ASDS ships could be named Daedalus and Prometheus:


Then mission controllers could announce "Daedalus maneuver in 3, 2, 1 ..."  ;D

Sadly Musk already name the Atlantic ASDS "Just follow the Instructions" and the Pacific ASDS "Of Course I Still Love You".

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« Reply #39 on: 01/30/2015 04:49 am »

Sadly Musk already name the Atlantic ASDS "Just follow the Instructions" and the Pacific ASDS "Of Course I Still Love You".

Somehow that sounds Python-esque  ;)

What do those names actually refer to?
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #40 on: 01/30/2015 05:59 am »

Sadly Musk already name the Atlantic ASDS "Just follow the Instructions" and the Pacific ASDS "Of Course I Still Love You".

Somehow that sounds Python-esque  ;)

What do those names actually refer to?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_spacecraft_in_the_Culture_series#The_Player_of_Games

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #41 on: 01/30/2015 07:04 am »
ASDS ~ "Color the same as for bike shed."

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« Reply #42 on: 01/30/2015 02:29 pm »
Given what happened on its first mission, maybe Only Slightly Bent (from The State of the Art) would have been more apt than Just Read the Instructions.   ;D

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« Reply #43 on: 01/30/2015 03:13 pm »

Sadly Musk already name the Atlantic ASDS "Just follow the Instructions" and the Pacific ASDS "Of Course I Still Love You".

Sadly?
The names are brilliant!

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« Reply #44 on: 01/30/2015 10:58 pm »
Given what happened on its first mission, maybe Only Slightly Bent (from The State of the Art) would have been more apt than Just Read the Instructions.   ;D

I would save that name for the first reused booster!

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #45 on: 01/30/2015 11:05 pm »
Okay, so as a result of the discussion here, I'm reading my first Culture book - I'd missed that series, somehow. 

But I'm surprised that the Culture, which incorporates high level AI minds, would be used as the template for ships Elon (who has voiced deep skepticism of the wisdom of unleashing high levesl AI minds) has named.

Maybe I'll understand better after a day of reading while son is snowboarding ...

looking for MCT = GSV,,   AI and self aware are two completely different concepts.

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I would have gone with "Little Rascal" as a Bargex name  but Elon selected GSV names that where friends of the drone
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« Reply #46 on: 01/30/2015 11:15 pm »

Sadly Musk already name the Atlantic ASDS "Just follow the Instructions" and the Pacific ASDS "Of Course I Still Love You".

Sadly?
The names are brilliant!

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Puff the Magic Dragon

Don't see the (staid) competition laughing anymore, though.

Sadly is not in reference to the names, but to @sanman's reply #38.

I think the names are great. Even though Iain M Banks is not one of the SF writers that is on my wall of books.

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« Reply #47 on: 01/31/2015 12:21 am »
"Only Slightly Bent" then has got to be the best name.. - re Iain M. Banks - "the State of Art"

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« Reply #48 on: 01/31/2015 12:22 am »
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The images look like they were taken several seconds apart. Clearly, this is evidence that SpaceX has achieved an earth-shaking technical breakthrough in high-speed-ship-name-painting technology.  ;)

Sounds like a development of their curtain removal tech ;)

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« Reply #49 on: 01/31/2015 05:38 am »

Sadly Musk already name the Atlantic ASDS "Just follow the Instructions" and the Pacific ASDS "Of Course I Still Love You".

Sadly?
The names are brilliant!

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Don't see the (staid) competition laughing anymore, though.

If we're going to talk Dragon names, I would put in a request for something like:

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« Reply #50 on: 02/01/2015 06:58 pm »
Given Musk's penchant for AI going bad, I'd suggest Penny Royal.

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« Reply #51 on: 02/02/2015 07:55 am »
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The images look like they were taken several seconds apart. Clearly, this is evidence that SpaceX has achieved an earth-shaking technical breakthrough in high-speed-ship-name-painting technology.  ;)

CJ you clearly haven't been paying enough attention.  Whether you want to call the barge a ship or not, there's no way it qualifies as "high-speed".   ;)

Or maybe you've just been overly promiscuous with your hyphens.  :-[  The picture's definitely not evidence of a breakthrough in "high-speed-ship name-painting," as the Just Read the Instructions is only moderately faster than a kayak rowed by my 89 year old grandmother.  So I guess you must have meant it was a breakthrough in "high-speed, ship-name painting" or maybe "high-speed, ship name-painting". :D  I'm not entirely sure what the difference between those last two is.  And one of them might not be correct English anyways.
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« Reply #52 on: 02/02/2015 08:57 am »
A simple and descriptive yet elegant name for the barge would be bob.    :D    If Elon wanted to credit me with coming up with it they could call it the Bobr.  ;D

'Bob' sounds like an absolutely perfect name, thank you very much. In fact, *all* the barges should be called Bob, IMHO.

Just think of three F9H recovery barges all in a row, Bob, Bob, Bobbing along!

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« Reply #53 on: 02/02/2015 09:05 am »
Oh, and speaking of barge names, while I heartily agree with Elon Musk's choice of names (despite the above post) I *do* hope that none of his barges meet with any (ahem) Special Circumstances, as despite the best of intentions things to tend to go pear-shaped when such are invoked!

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« Reply #54 on: 02/03/2015 02:20 am »
Oh, and speaking of barge names, while I heartily agree with Elon Musk's choice of names (despite the above post) I *do* hope that none of his barges meet with any (ahem) Special Circumstances, as despite the best of intentions things to tend to go pear-shaped when such are invoked!

However, maybe it's better not to name any of the barges Funny, It Worked the Last Time...
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« Reply #55 on: 02/03/2015 02:06 pm »
New article about naming:
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These are the awesomely nerdy names Elon Musk chose for his rocket-catching drone ships

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Culture Minds have a tendency to give themselves flippant names, and here's where Musk may have drawn his inspiration. Both "Just Read The Instructions" and "Of Course I Still Love You" are names of Minds in Banks' "The Player of Games," a very enjoyable novel in which the Culture works to undermine a stagnant and brutal dictatorship whose leadership is determined by the outcome of a complicated strategy game.
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Hmmmmmm... nah, won't go there.  Just science fiction.

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New article about naming:
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Culture Minds have a tendency to give themselves flippant names, and here's where Musk may have drawn his inspiration. Both "Just Read The Instructions" and "Of Course I Still Love You" are names of Minds in Banks' "The Player of Games"

In fact, they're mentioned in the same sentence of that book.

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« Reply #57 on: 02/04/2015 05:24 am »
<snip>
The images look like they were taken several seconds apart. Clearly, this is evidence that SpaceX has achieved an earth-shaking technical breakthrough in high-speed-ship-name-painting technology.  ;)

CJ you clearly haven't been paying enough attention.  Whether you want to call the barge a ship or not, there's no way it qualifies as "high-speed".   ;)

Or maybe you've just been overly promiscuous with your hyphens.  :-[  The picture's definitely not evidence of a breakthrough in "high-speed-ship name-painting," as the Just Read the Instructions is only moderately faster than a kayak rowed by my 89 year old grandmother.  So I guess you must have meant it was a breakthrough in "high-speed, ship-name painting" or maybe "high-speed, ship name-painting". :D  I'm not entirely sure what the difference between those last two is.  And one of them might not be correct English anyways.

Deruch, you seem to be leaping to conclusions. We simply do not, definitively, know ASDS's top speed. We don't even know its operational altitude ceiling. Therefor, it is quite possible that ASDS, especially at high altitude, could be high speed indeed. In fact, I think it more likely than not that ASDS, if placed at 10,000 feet, would rival the acceleration of the acceleration of a Ferrari under the same circumstances.

Hrmmm... on a serious note, I wonder if it's possible to photoshop the name off the ship, leaving us with 2 pics taken seconds apart, from slightly differing perspectives. That ought to be useable to make a stereo pic, giving a 3D view of ASDS. I'll see what I can come up with.

I seriously do look forward to seeing reporters try to explain the ship's name if landing is successful. :)

I like the name "Just Read the Instructions", and love the ASDS design concept, but what I'm really hoping it to see it coming back to port in a few days with an upright (and non-disassembled) F9 on deck (with the legs on the deck, not on the skyward end) 


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« Reply #58 on: 02/07/2015 09:44 am »
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The images look like they were taken several seconds apart. Clearly, this is evidence that SpaceX has achieved an earth-shaking technical breakthrough in high-speed-ship-name-painting technology.  ;)

CJ you clearly haven't been paying enough attention.  Whether you want to call the barge a ship or not, there's no way it qualifies as "high-speed".   ;)

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« Reply #59 on: 02/13/2015 06:59 am »
I think Elon almost had the perfect name for the east coast ASDS but missed it by that much ::)..the same book, but a different ship name ..."Limiting Factor"

I'm reading "The Player of Games" and I just realized that in light of the last F9 landing attempt being cancelled because the ASDS wasn't able to handle the weather conditions the ship should have obviously been named after the GOU Limiting Factor !



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« Reply #60 on: 02/13/2015 10:28 pm »
I think Elon almost had the perfect name for the east coast ASDS but missed it by that much ::)..the same book, but a different ship name ..."Limiting Factor"

I'm reading "The Player of Games" and I just realized that in light of the last F9 landing attempt being cancelled because the ASDS wasn't able to handle the weather conditions the ship should have obviously been named after the GOU Limiting Factor !

After blowing up on the deck during the first attempt, I would have gone with What Are The Civilian Applications?.  But, while very funny, that might have riled up some people.  So maybe it's better to skip that one.
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« Reply #61 on: 02/22/2015 04:09 am »
Posted in the spirit of fun and, yes, respect for what SpaceX is trying to do (which I'm confident they WILL do).

An image inspired by the track record of the ASDS barge's bad luck for getting damaged on the two landing recovery trips it has made so far .....



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« Reply #62 on: 02/22/2015 05:42 am »
Well in the spirit of Ian Banks ship names, a good name will be "Whistling at Sea".
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« Reply #63 on: 02/22/2015 05:06 pm »
Maybe they should name the first stage "Sluggo"
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« Reply #64 on: 02/22/2015 07:10 pm »
Posted in the spirit of fun and, yes, respect for what SpaceX is trying to do (which I'm confident they WILL do).

An image inspired by the track record of the ASDS barge's bad luck for getting damaged on the two landing recovery trips it has made so far .....



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I think you've touched on a very real danger; if the ASDS is fully autonomous, it might well decide that staying in JAX is safer than going out into storms and/or having F9s thrown at it. 

Okay, we now know for a fact (Multiple video sources) that the ship's name, Just Read the Instructions, is now painted on deck. I'm a bit surprised that the name is painted on deck and not on the bows and stern (where it traditionally is on ships), but, due to ASDS JRtI's rectangularish flat-bottmonedish flat-toppedish hull form, plus the fact that it'll be photographed more often from above, the location makes sense to me. Plus, it'll look great with an F9 in the middle.   

This brings me to gender issues. Is ASDS JRtI properly referred to as a he, a she, or an it? Ships and boats are usually, but not always, referred to as "she". This is even true of ones named after men, such as the USS Nimitz or the USS Theodore Roosevelt. A notable exception is Russian practice, where ships are called "he". 

So, should ASDS JRtI be called "she"? ASDS JRtI can't be a boat (much too large) so that leaves ship as the only possible description, and thus "she"? 

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« Reply #65 on: 02/22/2015 07:51 pm »
This brings me to gender issues. Is ASDS JRtI properly referred to as a he, a she, or an it?

Next time the Fascination takes a turn leaving port, why don't you try to zoom in and find out?

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« Reply #66 on: 02/22/2015 08:27 pm »
This brings me to gender issues. Is ASDS JRtI properly referred to as a he, a she, or an it?

Next time the Fascination takes a turn leaving port, why don't you try to zoom in and find out?


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Okay, we now know for a fact (Multiple video sources) that the ship's name, Just Read the Instructions, is now painted on deck. I'm a bit surprised that the name is painted on deck and not on the bows and stern (where it traditionally is on ships), but, due to ASDS JRtI's rectangularish flat-bottmonedish flat-toppedish hull form, plus the fact that it'll be photographed more often from above, the location makes sense to me. Plus, it'll look great with an F9 in the middle.   
The name painted on top is tongue in cheek message to landing rockets.  Idem with OCISLY.
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« Reply #68 on: 02/22/2015 09:09 pm »
Okay, we now know for a fact (Multiple video sources) that the ship's name, Just Read the Instructions, is now painted on deck. I'm a bit surprised that the name is painted on deck and not on the bows and stern (where it traditionally is on ships), but, due to ASDS JRtI's rectangularish flat-bottmonedish flat-toppedish hull form, plus the fact that it'll be photographed more often from above, the location makes sense to me. Plus, it'll look great with an F9 in the middle.   
The name painted on top is tongue in cheek message to landing rockets.  Idem with OCISLY.

The name topside made it a lot easier for for aerial photos and videos. Same goes for the modest SpaceX logo on the landing deck.

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« Reply #69 on: 02/22/2015 10:09 pm »
Okay, we now know for a fact (Multiple video sources) that the ship's name, Just Read the Instructions, is now painted on deck. I'm a bit surprised that the name is painted on deck and not on the bows and stern (where it traditionally is on ships), but, due to ASDS JRtI's rectangularish flat-bottmonedish flat-toppedish hull form, plus the fact that it'll be photographed more often from above, the location makes sense to me. Plus, it'll look great with an F9 in the middle.   
The name painted on top is tongue in cheek message to landing rockets.  Idem with OCISLY.
The name topside made it a lot easier for for aerial photos and videos. Same goes for the modest SpaceX logo on the landing deck.

Not to mention that it seems the official, legal, registered, name of the barge is still "Marmac 300" and there is not a lot they can do about that - especially if they don't actually own it, but are leasing it from someone else.

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« Reply #70 on: 02/23/2015 01:22 am »
This brings me to gender issues. Is ASDS JRtI properly referred to as a he, a she, or an it? Ships and boats are usually, but not always, referred to as "she". This is even true of ones named after men, such as the USS Nimitz or the USS Theodore Roosevelt. A notable exception is Russian practice, where ships are called "he". 

So, should ASDS JRtI be called "she"? ASDS JRtI can't be a boat (much too large) so that leaves ship as the only possible description, and thus "she"?

In Iain M. Banks' series, all the AIs are referred to as neuter: it. Actually, to be more precise, Marain, the language of the culture, doesn't distinguish gender; it's the translation for lower life forms (i.e. us) that uses gender pronouns, and "it" is most appropriate for us. See intro to section 2 of "Player of Games". Since JRtI is autonomous it must count as an AI, albeit a low intelligence one.
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« Reply #71 on: 02/23/2015 02:43 am »

The name painted on top is tongue in cheek message to landing rockets.  Idem with OCISLY.

That's IMHO a very dangerous move. If the F9 takes it literally, the "Just" could be interpreted to mean disregard prior directives and just read the instructions (instead of, say, landing...).  :o

That brings up a point though; if there was only one Marmac 300 (which ASDS JRtI was built from), then what's ASDS OCISLY going to be built from? It might end up being a somewhat different ship to JRtI.

This brings me to gender issues. Is ASDS JRtI properly referred to as a he, a she, or an it? Ships and boats are usually, but not always, referred to as "she". This is even true of ones named after men, such as the USS Nimitz or the USS Theodore Roosevelt. A notable exception is Russian practice, where ships are called "he". 

So, should ASDS JRtI be called "she"? ASDS JRtI can't be a boat (much too large) so that leaves ship as the only possible description, and thus "she"?
In Iain M. Banks' series, all the AIs are referred to as neuter: it. Actually, to be more precise, Marain, the language of the culture, doesn't distinguish gender; it's the translation for lower life forms (i.e. us) that uses gender pronouns, and "it" is most appropriate for us. See intro to section 2 of "Player of Games". Since JRtI is autonomous it must count as an AI, albeit a low intelligence one.

AH! Excellent point. IMHO, there's a very strong argument to be made that the conventions applying to the namesakes should thus apply to ASDS JRtI. I wonder if SpaceX or Elon Musk follow this usage when referring to ASDS? If so, I think it's case closed: you've got it. 

Hrmmm, if ASDS JRtI is indeed an AI (And I think you're right on that) I'd advise you to be cautious besmirching its intelligence; if it takes offense, you might find an F9 landing on your roof.  :D

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« Reply #72 on: 02/23/2015 04:01 am »

Hrmmm, if ASDS JRtI is indeed an AI (And I think you're right on that) I'd advise you to be cautious besmirching its intelligence; if it takes offense, you might find an F9 landing on your roof.  :D
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« Reply #73 on: 02/23/2015 04:11 am »

Hrmmm, if ASDS JRtI is indeed an AI (And I think you're right on that) I'd advise you to be cautious besmirching its intelligence; if it takes offense, you might find an F9 landing on your roof.  :D
If you had just read the instructions you'd know that's not possible.

Let's face it - nobody reads the instructions.
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« Reply #74 on: 02/23/2015 04:43 am »

Hrmmm, if ASDS JRtI is indeed an AI (And I think you're right on that) I'd advise you to be cautious besmirching its intelligence; if it takes offense, you might find an F9 landing on your roof.  :D
If you had just read the instructions you'd know that's not possible.

Let's face it - Nobody Reads the Instructions.

Now that's a good and proper name for one of the F9Rs.

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« Reply #75 on: 02/23/2015 07:34 am »
Temeraire

Actual ship name, famous in the Turner painting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Temeraire) - Symbolizing the transition from one era to another. And of course dragon related ;).
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Temeraire

Actual ship name, famous in the Turner painting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Temeraire) - Symbolizing the transition from one era to another. And of course dragon related ;).

Can there be two ships in service with the same name? Because the Temeraire is currently a nuclear submarine french. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_T%C3%A9m%C3%A9raire_%28S617%29

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Temeraire

Actual ship name, famous in the Turner painting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Temeraire) - Symbolizing the transition from one era to another. And of course dragon related ;).

Can there be two ships in service with the same name? Because the Temeraire is currently a nuclear submarine french. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_T%C3%A9m%C3%A9raire_%28S617%29

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« Reply #78 on: 02/23/2015 02:21 pm »
Temeraire

Actual ship name, famous in the Turner painting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Temeraire) - Symbolizing the transition from one era to another. And of course dragon related ;).

Can there be two ships in service with the same name? Because the Temeraire is currently a nuclear submarine french. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_T%C3%A9m%C3%A9raire_%28S617%29

Sure they can, call sign and IMO number will be different regardlessly. There's for example a tug boat sporting the same name.
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« Reply #79 on: 02/23/2015 10:15 pm »
Temeraire

Actual ship name, famous in the Turner painting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Temeraire) - Symbolizing the transition from one era to another. And of course dragon related ;).

Can there be two ships in service with the same name? Because the Temeraire is currently a nuclear submarine french. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_T%C3%A9m%C3%A9raire_%28S617%29

The usual convention is that the name could only be used once per class.  For example, HMS Temeraire and HM Sloop Temeraire would be okay, if a bit temerarious on the part of a mere sloop to aspire to such a name.
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« Reply #80 on: 02/24/2015 05:07 pm »
Depends on how you define "class".  A ship of the line and a sloop are different classes of ship, but there are also different classes of ship of the line and different classes of sloop.  For instance, there are seven (including one planned) examples of U.S.S. Enterprise in the U.S. Navy:  Two sloops, one survey ship, one motorboat, and three aircraft carriers (one of which is still in the planning stages).  They are all different classes within their main type, of course.  The first aircraft carrier Enterprise was a Yorktown-class carrier built prior to WWII, the second was a stand-alone class of one, the first nuclear powered carrier, and the third with be a Gerald R. Ford-class ship.


The real rule, I think, is that you can't have two ships in the same service with the same name at the same time.  There were also two aircraft carriers named Lexington and two named Yorktown, in each case the latter was an Essex-class carrier named to honor its prior namesake sunk in battle.  (And of course the original U.S.S. Essex was one of the original frigates built at he establishment of the U.S. Navy).


Anyway, none of this tradition restricts Elon from naming either a barge or a stage or a capsule anything he wants.  As long as he doesn't preface it with USS or HMS, etc., he's in the clear.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #81 on: 02/24/2015 11:17 pm »
Temeraire

Actual ship name, famous in the Turner painting (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Fighting_Temeraire) - Symbolizing the transition from one era to another. And of course dragon related ;).

Can there be two ships in service with the same name? Because the Temeraire is currently a nuclear submarine french. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_T%C3%A9m%C3%A9raire_%28S617%29

Sure they can, call sign and IMO number will be different regardlessly. There's for example a tug boat sporting the same name.

To clarify:  Under the shipping registration system of any one country there can be only one use of a name (first in wins the prize; subsequent applications become 'Temeraire II' (or something else entirely at the discretion of the owner).

...but international shipping can be registered in any country the owners choose (selected on how much they want to pay, how strict the requirements are, etc.) and private vessels (yachts and powerboats) don't need to be registered at all and can thus be called anything you like - hence the occurrence of multiple names.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #82 on: 02/24/2015 11:31 pm »
Anyway, none of this tradition restricts Elon from naming either a barge or a stage or a capsule anything he wants.  As long as he doesn't preface it with USS or HMS, etc., he's in the clear.

Actually, that's not true at all - here's why:

The ASDS doesn't meet the definition of 'private vessel' so it must be Registered.  The ASDS is registered in the USA by the American Bureau of Shipping as a Deck Cargo Barge under the name "Marmac 300", home port New Orleans LA, Class Number 9837409 - and because it's Registered, the classification society (ie. ABS) governs the rules around how it's built, maintained and operated from the moment it's launched until the day it's either scrapped or sunk.  For example, its next hull survey is due in March 2016.

To change the name, Elon would need to ask Legal Owner of "Marmac 300" (Marmac Corporation, 8 San Jose Drive, Newport News) to apply to change the 'Registered Name' to JRTI by filling out the appropriate forms, paying the associated fees, changing their leasing documents and hoping the name change is accepted by the authorities...

I can tell you from experience that it's far easier to simply paint the new 'unofficial' name on the deck and forget about it.


(EDIT:  JRTI registration details added.)
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With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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« Reply #83 on: 03/04/2015 12:09 am »
Anyway, none of this tradition restricts Elon from naming either a barge or a stage or a capsule anything he wants.  As long as he doesn't preface it with USS or HMS, etc., he's in the clear.

Actually, that's not true at all - here's why:

The ASDS doesn't meet the definition of 'private vessel' so it must be Registered.  The ASDS is registered in the USA by the American Bureau of Shipping as a Deck Cargo Barge under the name "Marmac 300", home port New Orleans LA, Class Number 9837409 - and because it's Registered, the classification society (ie. ABS) governs the rules around how it's built, maintained and operated from the moment it's launched until the day it's either scrapped or sunk.  For example, its next hull survey is due in March 2016.

To change the name, Elon would need to ask Legal Owner of "Marmac 300" (Marmac Corporation, 8 San Jose Drive, Newport News) to apply to change the 'Registered Name' to JRTI by filling out the appropriate forms, paying the associated fees, changing their leasing documents and hoping the name change is accepted by the authorities...

I can tell you from experience that it's far easier to simply paint the new 'unofficial' name on the deck and forget about it.


(EDIT:  JRTI registration details added.)

CameronD is, based on my past experience with such things, correct. A further factor; the existing registry is already paid, so even if they plan to make the name change official, there's really no point until it's up for renewal.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #84 on: 06/04/2015 05:07 am »
Okay, now that there are THREE ASDS, IMHO it's time to start speculating on what the name of the third one will be.

Just Read the Instructions and Of Course I still Love you, the first two ASDS names revealed, were both names of ships in the Culture series book, Player of Games. Therefor, I'm going to guess that the third ship will have a name from that book.

The names listed are;

Screw Loose    
Flexible Demeanour        
Just Read The Instructions    
Of Course I Still Love You    
Limiting Factor    
Cargo Cult        
Little Rascal
So Much For Subtlety    
Unfortunate Conflict Of Evidence     
Youthful Indiscretion    
Zealot        
Kiss My Ass     
Prime Mover     


My guess, based on nothing but a hunch that it fits well with the first two, is that the third ASDS will be named (or name itself) "So Much For Subtlety".

We should know soon; this third ASDS has just arrived in Jacksonville and it's looking likely to be the one for the CRS-7 mission.


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« Reply #85 on: 06/04/2015 05:51 am »
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« Reply #86 on: 06/08/2015 10:01 pm »
Suggestions transplanted from the other thread to this one, since we've just learned that JRTI will be retired and replaced, and possibly renamed.

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« Reply #87 on: 06/08/2015 10:53 pm »
Per Kabloona's post in the main ASDS thread, it's now believed that the Marmac 300 hull, on which JRtI was built, is being retired/reassigned. 

So, will the ASDS now in JAX (Based on a MArmac 304 hull) be Just Read the Instructions? My guess (BAsed on what very little has been said by SpaceX, such as JRtI getting a major upgrade)) is it will, but that's only a guess.

If my guess is correct, I propose referring to it as ASDS Just Read the Instructions V 1.1, because it's clearly an evolution from 1.0, just as the F9 1.1 was from 1.0.  Or, we could use Dragon as the model, and call it V 2.0.

As for the Marmac 300 hull, I propose taking a page from long-ago musical history and referring to it as "The ASDS hull formerly known as ASDS Just Read the Instructions." Or TASDSHFKAASDSJRtI" for short. (much easier to remember than "MARMAC 300", right?)

As a serous aside, I do wish CRS6 had succeeded; that'd have been a very fitting last mission for JRtI V 1.0.  :(

Oh, and if what I hear about the Banks books universe is right, keeping the name with a new hull fits; it's the mind, not the hull, that's the entity and thus the name, so if we assume that the ASDS now in JAX received JRtIs main computer (and it probably did, given the timing) then keeping the name with it at least fits. 


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« Reply #88 on: 06/08/2015 11:04 pm »
Just Read The Instructions and Of Course I still Love You are the 2 names that have been named.  They are both from the book The Player of the Games.  Both ships are listed as GCU type ships.  The only other GCU type ship from The Player of the Games is Flexible Demeanour.

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« Reply #89 on: 06/09/2015 12:44 am »
I think we already have nice names for the marine hardware (marmac 300/303/304) and for the ships' minds/ASDS roles (JRtI/OCISLY).  If we're placing bets, I'd wager that no new names are necessary or officially assigned.

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« Reply #90 on: 06/09/2015 01:33 pm »
I think we already have nice names for the marine hardware (marmac 300/303/304) and for the ships' minds/ASDS roles (JRtI/OCISLY).  If we're placing bets, I'd wager that no new names are necessary or officially assigned.
I concur.  It was stated that JRtI was getting upgraded to be able to handle what the seas throw at it, and having its hull replaced by a new (to it), upgraded one does sound like a significant upgrade to me.

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« Reply #91 on: 06/09/2015 04:40 pm »
If you're going to use just the two names, doesn't it make more sense that Marmac 303, which will use the wings taken from 300, retain the JRtI name, while 304, being all-new with no large parts reused from JRtI, becomes OCISLY?
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« Reply #92 on: 06/09/2015 04:56 pm »
Except that Musk stated that OCISLY was the name of the "West coast ASDS", and by implication JRtI is the name of the "East coast ASDS".   The ASDS names are a property of their function; they don't have any relation to the particular hardware used (or so I rationalize).

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« Reply #93 on: 06/09/2015 05:54 pm »
Instead of JRtI2, JRtFI
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« Reply #94 on: 06/09/2015 07:19 pm »
Though I agree with previous posts that JRtI is the most likely name, I'd love to see Ultimate Ship The Second from "The State of the Art."

The Precise Nature of the Catastrophe (from the same novel) might not be such a good name. Or Problem Child from "Excession."
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« Reply #95 on: 06/10/2015 01:47 pm »
Except that Musk stated that OCISLY was the name of the "West coast ASDS", and by implication JRtI is the name of the "East coast ASDS".   The ASDS names are a property of their function; they don't have any relation to the particular hardware used (or so I rationalize).

Perhaps a Gulf Coast ASDS based in Galveston?

...and my preference would be "So Much For Subtlety"

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« Reply #96 on: 06/11/2015 12:06 am »
Except that Musk stated that OCISLY was the name of the "West coast ASDS", and by implication JRtI is the name of the "East coast ASDS".   The ASDS names are a property of their function; they don't have any relation to the particular hardware used (or so I rationalize).

Perhaps a Gulf Coast ASDS based in Galveston?

...and my preference would be "So Much For Subtlety"

IMHO, it is most highly unlikely that they'd base a Gulf ASDS in Galveston; it's in the wrong direction to serve Brownsville. My reasoning is that launches out of Brownsville (Boca Chica) will almost certainly go east southeast or southeast, unlike the Cape launches that go generally northeast. Going northeast out of Brownsville would mean overflying the US southeast, something that IMHO is highly unlikely to be allowed, and no reason to do so.

So, my guess for a gulf coast ASDS would be Brownsville area. Maybe. Unless it's there to mainly catch FH center cores, which would go much further downrange. In that case, my guess would be basing it in Key West.

As for a name... I concur with those above that we'll have Just Read the Instructions (with a new hull) on the east coast, Of Course I still Love You on the west coast. If there's a Gulf ASDS, I'll bet it will have a name from the culture series, but we won't know until the ASDS chooses its name.  :) (But "So Much for Subtlety" is a great candidate IMHO)


Hrmmm... about JRtI keeping the same name with a new hull. If a person gets a heart transplant, are they the same person with the same name? The consensus these days is yes, but there was some debate about that issue in the 1950's, from what I've seen. IMHO, it's the mind that counts, not the hull. (Plus, some of the gear from JRtI V 1.0 looks to have been transferred to the ASDS in JAX)

At this point, I'd be willing to bet that we'll see "Just Read the Instructions" painted on the Marmac-304-based ASDS in JAX very soon (before CRX-7). I also wouldn't be at all surprised if they use the same font so beloved here on NSF.  ;)

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« Reply #97 on: 06/11/2015 02:11 am »
If a person gets a heart transplant, are they the same person with the same name? The consensus these days is yes, but there was some debate about that issue in the 1950's, from what I've seen. IMHO, it's the mind that counts, not the hull. (Plus, some of the gear from JRtI V 1.0 looks to have been transferred to the ASDS in JAX)

Once we see a full brain transplant, then it's probably time to start worrying about what they're called.  The ASDS refit/transition, imo, is more than a brain transplant, but less than a full-body transplant... It's like a skin+bones transplant.  But with the nerves and blood vessels intact.  Ew.  Speaking of surgery...

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« Reply #98 on: 06/11/2015 08:14 am »
Hrmmm... about JRtI keeping the same name with a new hull. If a person gets a heart transplant, are they the same person with the same name? The consensus these days is yes, but there was some debate about that issue in the 1950's, from what I've seen. IMHO, it's the mind that counts, not the hull. (Plus, some of the gear from JRtI V 1.0 looks to have been transferred to the ASDS in JAX)

At this point, I'd be willing to bet that we'll see "Just Read the Instructions" painted on the Marmac-304-based ASDS in JAX very soon (before CRX-7). I also wouldn't be at all surprised if they use the same font so beloved here on NSF.  ;)

A Mind transplant, as it were...  ;)

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« Reply #99 on: 06/20/2015 10:07 pm »
Well, they painted the ASDS in Jax's deck today, putting on the circles and stylized X, same design for both that JRtI (1.0) had before its name was painted on.

I can see no reason why they wouldn't paint the name on while they were painting the rest, if they had any intention of doing so pre CRS-7. So, my guess is they won't do so before CRS-7.

As for myself, I'm going to call this ASDS JRtI v 1.1 until I see some reason to believe it's named something other than JRtI.
I'll likewise call the ASDS heading for California OCISLY.

I'm also guessing that we'll see JRtI (V 1.1) head offshore for sea trials very soon. I hope all goes well, because IMHO successfully landing an F9 would, amongst may other (vastly more important) things, be an awesome way to christen the new, improved JRtI (or whatever it's named). 

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« Reply #100 on: 06/20/2015 11:16 pm »
Last time it took them an extra day or so between painting the circles and name.  The name takes a longer time to lay out before putting the paint down, I guess.

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« Reply #101 on: 06/20/2015 11:26 pm »
Last time it took them an extra day or so between painting the circles and name.  The name takes a longer time to lay out before putting the paint down, I guess.

The circles and X logo were on JRtI from the beginning (first released pic, anyway) but the name wasn't painted on until sometime between the last pre-Dscover cruise cam viewing and the sortie for that stormy mission. (the first confirmed sighting of the name being actually on the deck, rather than a likely photoshop, is in the storm-damage vids taken from the deck of JRtI)

I'm not sure how they put the paint down. In my experience, painters use masking, but my experience is a bit out of date, plus not necessarily applicable to painting ships.

Perhaps, for the name, they use a stencil? If so, I think you're right; they'd at least wait until the other paint was dry.

Hrmmm... they've had to repaint after landing attempts before, so maybe they still have the stencil?


 

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« Reply #102 on: 06/21/2015 12:43 am »
I hope they make a new stencil!

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« Reply #103 on: 06/21/2015 02:21 am »
I hope they make a new stencil!
Or just call it the Can' t Kern
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« Reply #104 on: 06/21/2015 02:40 am »
I hope they make a new stencil!
Or just call it the Can' t Kern

There may be a perfectly good technical explanation for the lack of kerning on JRtI V 1.0. It's a known fact that OCR (Optical character recognition) software, especially older ones on slow computers, sometimes has issues with kerned text. It's thus IMHO possible that, seeing as how busy the F9's flight computer is with things like landing, they wanted to make the text easier for it to read. (It'd be a problematic time for it to be asking "Just read the ... what?")   
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My other guess is they may have used single-letter stencils, and just laid them out with all the corners touching. Thus, no kerning.

However... IMHO, if JRtI V 1.1 comes parading back into JAX with an intact, upright F9 on deck, I doubt anyone, even in this thread, will be complaining too much about the font. :)

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« Reply #105 on: 06/21/2015 04:35 am »
I hope they make a new stencil!
Or just call it the Can' t Kern

My other guess is they may have used single-letter stencils, and just laid them out with all the corners touching. Thus, no kerning.

However... IMHO, if JRtI V 1.1 comes parading back into JAX with an intact, upright F9 on deck, I doubt anyone, even in this thread, will be complaining too much about the font. :)

That's my vote - fixed width stencils.  Should be corrected this time around, if they still go through with it.

More than anything, going through with it will teach about the severity of Elon's sense of humor.

You're right that nobody will care when the rocket comes back, but 2-3 years from now, looking at the historical records, you know, it'll just have to be explained, time and time again, the stencils, the last-minute time crunch...  it's just better for everyone if they get it right.
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« Reply #106 on: 06/21/2015 06:46 am »

That's my vote - fixed width stencils.  Should be corrected this time around, if they still go through with it.

More than anything, going through with it will teach about the severity of Elon's sense of humor.

You're right that nobody will care when the rocket comes back, but 2-3 years from now, looking at the historical records, you know, it'll just have to be explained, time and time again, the stencils, the last-minute time crunch...  it's just better for everyone if they get it right.

Hrmmm... I recall a photoshopped pic of the name on the ship that was released by SpaceX (the original was one of the hexicopter shots from above). What if SpaceX just handed that, plus a few instructions, to them and said "do this!"? That pic, though, had kerned text... (I'll attach it).

Perhaps the painters just forgot to read the instructions?


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« Reply #107 on: 06/21/2015 08:20 am »
It would be a lot cleaner if they just followed the top or bottom edge of the boat and laid out the text in a straight line, instead of trying to wrap it around the landing circle.

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« Reply #108 on: 06/24/2015 10:57 pm »
Well, our perceptions of ASDS names just got overturned like, well, a capsizing barge. It's been revealed that the new barge on the east coast is named Of Course I Still Love You, currently waiting for Sunday's launch, leaving the name of the one heading west a bit of a mystery...

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« Reply #109 on: 06/24/2015 11:28 pm »
They did it on purpose.

I mean, that's going to be the name of the next barge.
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« Reply #110 on: 06/25/2015 12:46 am »
I'm not *too* surprised.  There are so many good culture ship names, it would be a shame to miss an opportunity to use another one.

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« Reply #111 on: 06/25/2015 03:18 am »
Perhaps just going for the entertainment value of TV news people reading 'of course I still love you' all over the US (and elsewhere)...

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« Reply #112 on: 06/25/2015 05:39 am »
Well, our perceptions of ASDS names just got overturned like, well, a capsizing barge. It's been revealed that the new barge on the east coast is named Of Course I Still Love You, currently waiting for Sunday's launch, leaving the name of the one heading west a bit of a mystery...

This. Saw the instagram pic, did a double take and.. "Well... This changes... everything!"  :P

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« Reply #113 on: 06/25/2015 06:56 am »
 :o :o :o :o :o

Just saw the shots SpaceX released of the ASDS in JAX. Wow! It's really looking great!

As for the name, I was stunned to see that this is Of Course I still Love You. I've been, quite wrongly as it turns out, calling this ASDS JRtI V 1.1.

I think the addition of the clover is a really great touch!

BTW, this ASDS being OCISLY doesn't actually mean that Elon's tweet about it being the West Coast ASDS wasn't spot on; SpaceX simply decided to rename it. Not the ASDS, the West Coast (which now has Georgia, the Carolinas, etc, on it).

Heh, actually, my take on that tweet about the names a few months back is that it shows a tendency (second in my interest only to their cost cutting measures) that first caused me to get really interested in SpaceX;  if they need to change plans, major or minor, they do it, no matter past statements to the contrary. I call this smart. 

So, a big "Welcome!" to ASDS OCISLY, a ship I believe will soon make history.

But, this leaves us with a greater mystery; there's an ASDS heading for Southern California that we've been assuming is OCISLY. Obviously, it isn't, because OCISLY is here. That SoCal bound ASDS has JRTI's wings, so perhaps it is JRtI.
I guess only time (and SpaceX) will tell.

But, if that ASDS isn't JRtI, then where is JRtI? Is it now just MArmac 300, retired ASDS.... or, what if the storm damage and age necessitated a rebuild of the Marmac 300, which will be used as a barge for a while until it's time, a few years from now, to make it an ASDS again (for Brownsville)?

 

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #114 on: 06/25/2015 07:07 am »
:o :o :o :o :o

Just saw the shots SpaceX released of the ASDS in JAX. Wow! It's really looking great!

As for the name, I was stunned to see that this is Of Course I still Love You. I've been, quite wrongly as it turns out, calling this ASDS JRtI V 1.1.

I think the addition of the clover is a really great touch!

BTW, this ASDS being OCISLY doesn't actually mean that Elon's tweet about it being the West Coast ASDS wasn't spot on; SpaceX simply decided to rename it. Not the ASDS, the West Coast (which now has Georgia, the Carolinas, etc, on it).

Heh, actually, my take on that tweet about the names a few months back is that it shows a tendency (second in my interest only to their cost cutting measures) that first caused me to get really interested in SpaceX;  if they need to change plans, major or minor, they do it, no matter past statements to the contrary. I call this smart. 

So, a big "Welcome!" to ASDS OCISLY, a ship I believe will soon make history.

But, this leaves us with a greater mystery; there's an ASDS heading for Southern California that we've been assuming is OCISLY. Obviously, it isn't, because OCISLY is here. That SoCal bound ASDS has JRTI's wings, so perhaps it is JRtI.
I guess only time (and SpaceX) will tell.

But, if that ASDS isn't JRtI, then where is JRtI? Is it now just MArmac 300, retired ASDS.... or, what if the storm damage and age necessitated a rebuild of the Marmac 300, which will be used as a barge for a while until it's time, a few years from now, to make it an ASDS again (for Brownsville)?

I think the proper way to read Elon's tweet is that they were working on readying a second ASDS, to be named OCISLY.  That one was originally planned to be sent to CA.  But, when they subsequently decided to take Marmac 300 out of service, plans changed.  So, Marmac 304 was always going to be OCISLY, it just changed from being sent out west to being stationed in Jax.  Marmac 303, which has yet to be publicly named, was then procured to be sent to CA.  It will either inherit JRtI's name or get a brand new one.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #115 on: 06/25/2015 12:12 pm »
Well, we could still see bits of the original lettering on the wing quarters on the deck of MARMAC 303 on its transit of the Panama Canal.  Obviously, the only conclusion can be that SpaceX knows how much everyone loves the artistic design of the JRtI name's lettering.  Since enough of it is still there to paint over and restore it to its original look, they had to keep the name with the wings.

I mean, you can't expect them to make a perfect clone of such a whimsical work of art without losing something in the translation, but restoring a bit of paint? ;D

(Incidentally, has kerning and typeface ever been such a significant topic of spaceflight discussions?)

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #116 on: 06/25/2015 03:31 pm »

(Incidentally, has kerning and typeface ever been such a significant topic of spaceflight discussions?)

Yes.  See this Dilbert cartoon:
http://dilbert.com/strip/2013-02-23

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #117 on: 06/27/2015 04:19 am »
Well, we could still see bits of the original lettering on the wing quarters on the deck of MARMAC 303 on its transit of the Panama Canal.  Obviously, the only conclusion can be that SpaceX knows how much everyone loves the artistic design of the JRtI name's lettering.  Since enough of it is still there to paint over and restore it to its original look, they had to keep the name with the wings.

I mean, you can't expect them to make a perfect clone of such a whimsical work of art without losing something in the translation, but restoring a bit of paint? ;D

(Incidentally, has kerning and typeface ever been such a significant topic of spaceflight discussions?)

The debate over the tyesetting on JRtI has always made me smile, and I've treated it as tongue in cheek, much as I do debates over the specific color tone of the cherrypickers. :) But that's just me. :)

I'm perplexed by the JRtI wing issue. It looked to me as if the deck has been sandblasted (more is gone than after the CRS-6 mission). But, you really don't want to leave it that way at sea for long, and also, the part we could see was the area most damaged by scorching, so maybe it's just as-is and I'm wrong about the sandblasting. 

So, only time will tell; is the new ASDS currently NW bound off Mexico JRtI (with a Marmac 303 hull) or some other name? My best guess is we won't know until right before Jason-3, and maybe not even than (if it's a RTLS, we might not see much of this new ASDS for a while).

 I'm also of the opinion that SpaceX should christen the ASDS ships. There are varied christening ceremonies, but IMHO the only appropriate way to christen an ASDS is to land a rocket on it.  :)


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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #118 on: 06/27/2015 12:49 pm »
I'm expecting another Instagram post from SpaceX as soon as 303 has the wings put on and its name painted, regardless of whether Jason 3 gets cleared for RTLS or not.  And my money would be that 303 gets its own unique name, and that it will also be from the culture series.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #119 on: 06/27/2015 01:22 pm »
I'm expecting another Instagram post from SpaceX as soon as 303 has the winds put on and its name painted, regardless of whether Jason 3 gets cleared for RTLS or not.  And my money would be that 303 gets its own unique name, and that it will also be from the culture series.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #120 on: 06/27/2015 06:30 pm »
I'm expecting another Instagram post from SpaceX as soon as 303 has the wings put on and its name painted, regardless of whether Jason 3 gets cleared for RTLS or not.  And my money would be that 303 gets its own unique name, and that it will also be from the culture series.

If the name Just Read the Instructions was indeed, as surmised, applied with stencils, the cheapest way to apply a name again would be to use an already-existing stencil set, and apply it using the faintly visible old letters as guides.  And SpaceX optimizes for cost. So, While I think you may well be right regarding a new name, I also think it's possible we'll see JRtI, and done in the familiar so-beloved-in-this-thread unkerned font.  ;)

On the other hand, if that ASDS isn't JRtI, then perhaps we'll see JRtI appear as the Brownsville ASDS in a few years, or as a MCT. However, if the latter, I'm assuming there will be some significant differences between the old design and the new. :)


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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #121 on: 06/27/2015 09:19 pm »
Naw, there are so many good culture ship names, and Elon/SpaceX is obviously having fun (perhaps there's a company-wide poll?), no way he'll give up the opportunity to choose a new name by reusing an old one.  Keeping morale up is certainly worth the extra pennies for new stencils.  IMNSHO.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #122 on: 06/27/2015 09:47 pm »
Naw, there are so many good culture ship names, and Elon/SpaceX is obviously having fun (perhaps there's a company-wide poll?), no way he'll give up the opportunity to choose a new name by reusing an old one.  Keeping morale up is certainly worth the extra pennies for new stencils.  IMNSHO.

Hrmmmm...

I don't think anyone thought the ASDS in Jax would turn out to be OCISLY, but it did. My wild guess is that whatever it is, we'll be surprised. 

Also, it must always be remembered that, if the books are the guide, the ships name themselves. (they are autonomous, after all).  ;)

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #123 on: 06/28/2015 03:33 am »
For a guy who doesn't like acronyms, Musk's barge naming convention sure does beg for them.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #124 on: 07/09/2015 06:09 pm »
Finally started reading "Player of Games".  One of the first drone ships mentioned in it is Unfortunate Conflict of Evidence.  That could be an appropriate name now.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #125 on: 01/07/2016 10:47 pm »
Well, it's looking more and more like Jason 3 (NET Jan 17th, 2016) will be an ASDS landing.

The ASDS currently in Long Beach does not, as of yet, have a name painted on it. SpaceX, with OCISLY, waited until just before its first operation sortie to paint the name on (Prior to that, we had no idea, because SpaceX had previously said OCISLY would be the WEST coast ASDS.).

So, I'm speculating that the west coast ASDS will get a name painted on any day now. I'll further speculate that the name will be Just Read the Instructions (JRTI). That ASDS does, after all, have old JRTI's wings. It's also very possible that that ASDS has old JRTI's CPU, so a "brain transplant".

If, indeed, the west coast ASDS is revealed to be named JRTI, I suggest we follow SpaceX's Falcon 9 naming conventions. The F9 upgrade was named V1.1, the original F9 1.0, and the current (subchilling) F9 is now F9 1.1 FT (Full Thrust). I therefor propose that the "new" JRTI be dubbed JRTI FT (full thrust) due to having more powerful thrusters. This IMHO would be more in keeping with SpaceX's naming system than calling it JRTI V. 1.1

I also suggest that, in order to be consistent with prior SpaceX statements,  the west coast be renamed the east coast (so OCISLY';s location in port Canaveral will for with SpaceX's declaration that OCISLY is the west coast ASDS). 

 :)

 

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #126 on: 01/07/2016 11:12 pm »
i guess its too late but i think it would be funny to name them after celestial bodies.

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #127 on: 01/08/2016 03:44 am »
So, I'm speculating that the west coast ASDS will get a name painted on any day now. I'll further speculate that the name will be Just Read the Instructions (JRTI). That ASDS does, after all, have old JRTI's wings. It's also very possible that that ASDS has old JRTI's CPU, so a "brain transplant".

I, personally, don't think it's likely that M'303 will also be named JRtI: it would cause too much confusion amongst journalists, historians, groupies and SpaceX themselves.

"JRtI MkII" would be more likely.. but I suspect we'll find out soon enough - whatever it is. ;)
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #128 on: 01/08/2016 04:09 am »
SpaceX can paint "ARGO X" on the M'303 landing deck since it is retrieving the Jason flight core. :)

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #129 on: 01/08/2016 07:12 am »
If they don't go with another Culture ship name, I think a good candidate would be "Welcome to the Club".
I also hope they do decide to bring JRtI back. JRtI II is a good name.

For other culture inspired names that would fit the purpose for ASDS, re-flown spacecraft or re-flown core duties..

Clear Air Turbulence
So Much For Subtlety
Kiss My Ass
Just Testing
Only Slightly Bent
Funny, It Worked Last Time...
Ablation
Dramatic Exit, Or, Thank you And Goodnight
Unwitting Accomplice
Well I Was In The Neighbourhood
You'll Thank Me Later
Different Tan
Fate Amenable To Change
It's Character Forming
Attitude Adjuster
Anticipation Of A New Lover's Arrival, The
Death and Gravity
No Fixed Abode
What Is The Answer and Why?
Serious Callers Only
I Blame Your Mother
Just Passing Through
Full Refund
Break Even
Kiss the Blade
Resistance Is Character-Forming
Someone Else's Problem
Poke It With A Stick
But Who's Counting?
We Haven't Met But You're A Great Fan Of Mine
You May Not Be The Coolest Person Here
Fine Till You Came Along
I Blame The Parents
A Momentary Lapse Of Sanity
Injury Time
Now Look What You've Made Me Do
Kiss This Then
Don't Try This At Home
Lightly Seared On The Reality Grill
Now We Try It My Way
Pure Big Mad Boat Man
You'll Clean That Up Before You Leave
Sense Amid Madness, Wit Amidst Folly
Hidden Income
Passing By And Thought I'd Drop In
Beats Working
Anything Legal Considered
Warm, Considering
Outstanding Contribution to the Historical Process
Unreliable Witness
You Call This Clean?
Oceanic Dissonance

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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #130 on: 01/11/2016 04:55 pm »
From that list I go with "Full Refund"
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #131 on: 01/11/2016 05:37 pm »
From that list,

Most appropriate name: Pure Big Mad Boat Man
Least likely to be chosen: Kiss My Ass
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« Reply #132 on: 01/11/2016 06:25 pm »
I could see "Kiss My Ass (Jeff Bezos)" being a popular name inside SpaceX...

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« Reply #133 on: 01/11/2016 09:26 pm »
Hmmm... I'd chose either:

"Beats Working" or
"Someone Else's Problem"

Although "Fine Till You Came Along" would have been appropriate for the last couple of barge landing attempts.  ;)
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #134 on: 01/11/2016 09:48 pm »
This would also be a good one "Lightly Seared On The Reality Grill". As the ASDS gets flamed from the landing burns or the prior explosions..

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« Reply #135 on: 01/12/2016 10:20 am »
For me "Funny, It Worked Last Time" is best choice.

Yes, I know it is unlikely, unless Musk is into dark humour.
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« Reply #136 on: 01/12/2016 02:25 pm »
For me "Funny, It Worked Last Time" is best choice.

Yes, I know it is unlikely, unless Musk is into dark humour.

he is.

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« Reply #137 on: 01/12/2016 03:55 pm »
That said, if I recall correctly, the previous ASDSes were named by a spacex-internal poll.  I suspect Elon got to choose what the choices in that poll are, and that Elon's company probably shares some of his sense of humor... but the names can't be simply interpreted as windows into Elon's soul.
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #138 on: 01/14/2016 03:52 am »
The mystery is solved at last!
From the ASDS thread;
SpaceX West Coast Droneship Gets New Paint, Old Name - "Just Read The Instructions"

So, that ASDS has been the original Just Read the Instructions all along! It's the same ASDS, just with a few new upgraded parts (the bits between the wing extensions).

Now, if I was truly the obnoxious type, I'd say "I told you so!", and... oh, what the heck, I am the obnoxious type, so I will!
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« Reply #139 on: 01/15/2016 07:15 pm »
It is ready now as it has read the instructions..names are different  ;)
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Re: ASDS Naming Discussion Thread
« Reply #140 on: 01/18/2016 02:21 am »
In hindsight "Only Slightly Bent" or "Funny it Worked Last Time" might have been more fitting names
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