Quote from: IanThePineapple on 12/22/2017 09:33 pmIs it known what booster is assigned? I'd guess CRS-12 or OTV-5, maybe KoreaSat'sThere's some L2 info that can answer that question https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42452.0
Is it known what booster is assigned? I'd guess CRS-12 or OTV-5, maybe KoreaSat's
Quote from: vaporcobra on 12/22/2017 09:45 pmQuote from: IanThePineapple on 12/22/2017 09:33 pmIs it known what booster is assigned? I'd guess CRS-12 or OTV-5, maybe KoreaSat'sThere's some L2 info that can answer that question https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=42452.0When does this get declassified?
And the answer in general is that L2 info gets "declassified" when it is confirmed with SpaceX and written up in an article.
Quote from: cscott on 01/01/2018 05:42 amAnd the answer in general is that L2 info gets "declassified" when it is confirmed with SpaceX and written up in an article.This is why I want to get L2, I'm super impatient. I might buy 2 months just to test it out this year
Quote from: IanThePineapple on 01/07/2018 02:35 amQuote from: cscott on 01/01/2018 05:42 amAnd the answer in general is that L2 info gets "declassified" when it is confirmed with SpaceX and written up in an article.This is why I want to get L2, I'm super impatient. I might buy 2 months just to test it out this yearIt's totally worth it, especially around launch times. In fact, just the renders by lamontagne and others that end up in the articles are worth it. There are plenty that don't make it indy the article, but are still great fanservice.
Is this pretty certain now to fly before the FH demo flight?
How would this satellite get from Dulles to the Cape? Would it most likely be flown, and if so would it be on an AN-124? I tried looking for AN-124 flights and found one going Dulles-LAX-Merritt Island on Dec 3-4, and another AN-124 going Dulles-Kingston-Tampa on Dec 24 (which seems less likely). Would these GEO sats ever just get trucked to the launch site from Dulles?
Quote from: Star One on 01/07/2018 08:33 amIs this pretty certain now to fly before the FH demo flight?Expanding on your thought...The Falcon Heavy Demo launch from LC-39A is, in essence, now NET simultaneous with the SES-16 launch from SLC-40.Apparently, "we" don't know if the satellite has even been delivered to the launch site yet? Would O/ATK or SES announce a successful delivery? Or does Luxembourg want as little publicity as possible?That appears to be a (the?) critical piece of missing information.My non-expert opinion:SES is a paying customer (vs. FH demo which is a test flight with no customer payload aboard). A delay of a few days beyond NET Jan. 29 won't matter much in the "big picture" (How the Solar System Was Won). SES-16 would be given priority in a parallel launch campaigns situation.So IF the satellite has been delivered and is already being processed for launch;AND IF Zuma launches tonight, as scheduled;THEN SES-16 might progress directly through its launch campaign as soon as SLC-40 is cleared for another launch, launching before the Falcon Heavy Demo.There's my deduction chain. Any flaws?
Quote from: zubenelgenubi on 01/07/2018 08:27 pmQuote from: Star One on 01/07/2018 08:33 amIs this pretty certain now to fly before the FH demo flight?Expanding on your thought...The Falcon Heavy Demo launch from LC-39A is, in essence, now NET simultaneous with the SES-16 launch from SLC-40.Apparently, "we" don't know if the satellite has even been delivered to the launch site yet? Would O/ATK or SES announce a successful delivery? Or does Luxembourg want as little publicity as possible?That appears to be a (the?) critical piece of missing information.My non-expert opinion:SES is a paying customer (vs. FH demo which is a test flight with no customer payload aboard). A delay of a few days beyond NET Jan. 29 won't matter much in the "big picture" (How the Solar System Was Won). SES-16 would be given priority in a parallel launch campaigns situation.So IF the satellite has been delivered and is already being processed for launch;AND IF Zuma launches tonight, as scheduled;THEN SES-16 might progress directly through its launch campaign as soon as SLC-40 is cleared for another launch, launching before the Falcon Heavy Demo.There's my deduction chain. Any flaws?In light of the above I can see the FH demo flight dropping into February.
Quote from: Star One on 01/07/2018 08:29 pmQuote from: zubenelgenubi on 01/07/2018 08:27 pmQuote from: Star One on 01/07/2018 08:33 amIs this pretty certain now to fly before the FH demo flight?Expanding on your thought...The Falcon Heavy Demo launch from LC-39A is, in essence, now NET simultaneous with the SES-16 launch from SLC-40.Apparently, "we" don't know if the satellite has even been delivered to the launch site yet? Would O/ATK or SES announce a successful delivery? Or does Luxembourg want as little publicity as possible?That appears to be a (the?) critical piece of missing information.My non-expert opinion:SES is a paying customer (vs. FH demo which is a test flight with no customer payload aboard). A delay of a few days beyond NET Jan. 29 won't matter much in the "big picture" (How the Solar System Was Won). SES-16 would be given priority in a parallel launch campaigns situation.So IF the satellite has been delivered and is already being processed for launch;AND IF Zuma launches tonight, as scheduled;THEN SES-16 might progress directly through its launch campaign as soon as SLC-40 is cleared for another launch, launching before the Falcon Heavy Demo.There's my deduction chain. Any flaws?In light of the above I can see the FH demo flight dropping into February.In theory with AFTS and no need to fully reconfigure as is the case for a switch to a ULA launcher, they could both launch same day.
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 01/07/2018 08:43 pmQuote from: Star One on 01/07/2018 08:29 pmQuote from: zubenelgenubi on 01/07/2018 08:27 pmQuote from: Star One on 01/07/2018 08:33 amIs this pretty certain now to fly before the FH demo flight?Expanding on your thought...The Falcon Heavy Demo launch from LC-39A is, in essence, now NET simultaneous with the SES-16 launch from SLC-40.Apparently, "we" don't know if the satellite has even been delivered to the launch site yet? Would O/ATK or SES announce a successful delivery? Or does Luxembourg want as little publicity as possible?That appears to be a (the?) critical piece of missing information.My non-expert opinion:SES is a paying customer (vs. FH demo which is a test flight with no customer payload aboard). A delay of a few days beyond NET Jan. 29 won't matter much in the "big picture" (How the Solar System Was Won). SES-16 would be given priority in a parallel launch campaigns situation.So IF the satellite has been delivered and is already being processed for launch;AND IF Zuma launches tonight, as scheduled;THEN SES-16 might progress directly through its launch campaign as soon as SLC-40 is cleared for another launch, launching before the Falcon Heavy Demo.There's my deduction chain. Any flaws?In light of the above I can see the FH demo flight dropping into February.In theory with AFTS and no need to fully reconfigure as is the case for a switch to a ULA launcher, they could both launch same day.Good point re: hardware and the range.What about SpaceX personnel? Are there enough trained staff, at this juncture, to execute two simultaneous, but staggered, countdowns at launch complexes several miles apart?
In theory with AFTS and no need to fully reconfigure as is the case for a switch to a ULA launcher, they could both launch same day.
Quote from: russianhalo117 on 01/07/2018 08:43 pmIn theory with AFTS and no need to fully reconfigure as is the case for a switch to a ULA launcher, they could both launch same day.AFTS might allow two in one day, but ASDS won't. Both launches are scheduled for at-sea booster landing, aren't they?
Seeking confirmation re: ASDS. There is currently one each per coast/range, correct?
Quote from: kdhilliard on 01/07/2018 10:05 pmAFTS might allow two in one day, but ASDS won't. Both launches are scheduled for at-sea booster landing, aren't they?Depnds on what booster it ends up with. They'll want the center core of FH back for examination, but if SES/GovSat ends up with a block 3, SpaceX may not want it back and ditch it.
AFTS might allow two in one day, but ASDS won't. Both launches are scheduled for at-sea booster landing, aren't they?