Author Topic: Hongyan test sat & Yunhai-2 (x6) - CZ-2D/YZ-3 - JSLC - Dec 29, 2018 (08:00 UTC)  (Read 20445 times)

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and the last 4 objects in higher orbits (Hongyan and 3 high-orbit Yunhai-2)

2018-112D/43912 in 1089 x 1098 km x 50.01°
2018-112E/43913 in 1091 x 1099 km x 50.00°
2018-112F/43914 in 1091 x 1100 km x 50.00°
2018-112G/43915 in 1092 x 1100 km x 50.00°

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If Yunhai-2 is a weather constellation as suggested, do we have any idea if it is  traditional imaging,
or perhaps GNSS-RO (like the Spire Lemurs)?   Has China talked about GNSS-RO meteorology at all? Seems like an obvious think for them to try out using Beidou and LEO sats.
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Looking at the stories linked above, it seems that the Hongyan test satellite has been named 'Chongqing'
重庆号
It is built by Shenzhen Hangtian DFH HIT Weixing YG, with comms payload by CAST's Xi'an branch,
and is owned by Hangtian Keji Jituan DFH Weixing Yidong Tongxin YG 航天科技集团东方红卫星移动通信有限公司
(CASC DFH Mobile Communications Co)

It also seems that YZ-3 is built by SAST, not CALT.  I had thought that YZ-1 and perhaps 2 were CALT stages, is that right?

Yunhai-2 are also built by Shenzen Hangtian DFH HIT.
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As launch code appears to be "01-99" what is the launch code for the previous launch out of JSLC (Saudisat, Dec 7)?
Previous was 01-100

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We also have Object H (the 8th object, YZ-3?):

2018-112H/43916 in 186 x 195 km x 50.00° (epoch 13:27 UTC)

Seems more likely the CZ-2D second stage, with YZ-3 having moved from that orbit to deploy the sats
and then deorbited itself at the end?
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Another view of these NOTAMs

I'm wondering if there is a NOTAM corresponding to the YZ-3 deorbit zone which I am guessing is somewhere
south or southeast of Australia around 1145 UTC
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I'm wondering if there is a NOTAM corresponding to the YZ-3 deorbit zone which I am guessing is somewhere
south or southeast of Australia around 1145 UTC
I had a look in this area before you mentionned it; but couldn't find it so far

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Launch time was: 08:00:05.232 UTC
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If Yunhai-2 is a weather constellation as suggested, do we have any idea if it is  traditional imaging,
or perhaps GNSS-RO (like the Spire Lemurs)?   Has China talked about GNSS-RO meteorology at all? Seems like an obvious think for them to try out using Beidou and LEO sats.

GPS-RO it is indeed: http://www.9ifly.cn/forum.php?mod=redirect&goto=findpost&ptid=10832&pid=633888
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Does anyone know the serial number used for this CZ-2D?
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T0 = 16:00:05.232 BJT (08:00:05.232 UTC) ???

 (с 5:33 по 7:02)
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Sceengrab of Hongyan attached to YZ-3.
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Sceengrab of Hongyan attached to YZ-3.
No, it is the cluster of the 6 Yunhai-2 satellites attached to YZ-3. Maybe Hongyan-1 was positioned at the top of the stage and was released first. I have enlarged a best available picture of Yunhai-2 taken from the JSLC screen.

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No, it is the cluster of the 6 Yunhai-2 satellites attached to YZ-3. Maybe Hongyan-1 was positioned at the top of the stage and was released first. I have enlarged a best available picture of Yunhai-2 taken from the JSLC screen.

Thanks! The image is just after second stage separation, so Hongyan 1 should still be attached. Maybe Hongyan 1 is in the middle of the six Yunhai-2 satellites.
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Looks like 43910 YUNHAI 2 2 is now sitting higher at 564km x 574km

1 43910U 18112B   19061.69844576  .00089056  00000-0  71338-2 0  9998
2 43910  50.0093 237.0555 0007647  29.0127  59.1380 14.99290461  9604

1 43910U 18112B   19060.57830422 -.00072009  00000-0 -39358-2 0  9997
2 43910  50.0085 242.4507 0007757 103.1486  23.0295 15.13968140  9435

3 objects have been cataloged so far (3 low-orbit Yunhai-2?)


2018-112A/43909 in 517 x 525 km x 50.01°
2018-112B/43910 in 515 x 524 km x 50.01°
2018-112C/43911 in 508 x 524 km x 50.01°

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As of now, 43910 is at 665x676 km.
Moreover, 43913 is at 796x804 km since Feb 4.
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Well, both 43910 and 43913 are at 800 km since March 8, being 60° apart in RAAN.
It's now evident that all the six YH-2 birds should migrate to the 800 km orbit, three from above and three from below.
The next one to move is either 43912 or 43915 (provided that 43914 is indeed Hongyan 1 as SpaceTrack says). I expect the next bird to move in 50 days from now, that is on May 15 or so.
 
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The G object (43915) started her descent on May 16, almost finished.
« Last Edit: 05/21/2019 12:13 pm by Liss »
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