Author Topic: Vulcan VC2S V001 - Peregrine Lander - CCSFS SLC-41 - 8 Jan 2024 (07:18 UTC)  (Read 443350 times)

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https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1733216706619699657

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ULA's Vulcan rocket is conducting its WDR (Wet Dress Rehearsal) at SLC-41.

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WDR successful?
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Vulcan has returned to the VIF:

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At SLC-41 the Vulcan rocket has returned to its assembly building following a wet dress rehearsal attempt on Friday. ULA has provided no updates on the outcome of that test. The countdown entered the final 7 minutes but it's not clear if it proceeded as planned to close to T-0.

https://twitter.com/SpaceflightNow/status/1733818816549851149?t=D3JSm_uDbrPccTxEiXyz-w&s=19
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WDR successful?
Given that Tory has been tweeting every (successful) step on the way to launch, with pictures, I'm going to take the cynical view that something was off during the test.  A no-issue, or even a minor-issue, WDR is a big milestone on the road to launch.  I hereby predict a new WDR will be needed and a delay to January.  I would be happy to be proven wrong.
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WDR successful?
Given that Tory has been tweeting every (successful) step on the way to launch, with pictures, I'm going to take the cynical view that something was off during the test.  A no-issue, or even a minor-issue, WDR is a big milestone on the road to launch.  I hereby predict a new WDR will be needed and a delay to January.  I would be happy to be proven wrong.

Right there with you; no news is not good news.  The way the NSF cameras were positioned, I couldn't tell if they filled the tanks, although the GSE was venting.  Any thoughts on that?
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I agree that a successful WDR would surely have been announced. Clearly no official news yet:

https://twitter.com/astrobotic/status/1733849341729603733

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With T-14 days until launch, this week we're excited to fill you in on all of the customer payloads headed to the Moon aboard Peregrine Mission One. 🚀🌒 Get ready for #7daysofPeregrinePayloads!
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Let’s not assume that the WDR didn’t go as planned (let alone a delay to January) just because we haven’t gotten any updates.

Be patient.
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Let’s not assume that the WDR didn’t go as planned (let alone a delay to January) just because we haven’t gotten any updates.

Be patient.

Also, Tory Bruno did not do any sort of countdown milestones during the wet dress rehearsal. His only tweet was to repost the ULA day of WDR announcement.

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https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1733907494030688486

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#VulcanRocket  WDR update:  Vehicle performed well.  Ground system had a couple of (routine) issues, (being corrected). Ran the timeline long so we didn't quite finish.  I'd like a FULL WDR before our first flight, so XMAS eve is likely out.  Next Peregrine window is 8 Jan.

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Welp. It's definitely not the news we wanted to hear, but glad you're pushing for success. Will it still be an early morning launch on the 8th?

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1733909618420568475

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yes.  We'll publicize the details
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ULA's Website has been updated, officially NET January 8th:

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VULCAN TO LAUNCH FIRST CERTIFICATION MISSION (CERT-1)

A United Launch Alliance (ULA) Vulcan VC2S rocket will launch the first certification mission from Space Launch Complex-41 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida. The Cert-1 flight test mission includes two payloads, the first Peregrine Lunar Lander, Peregrine Mission One (PM1) for Astrobotic as part of NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) initiative to deliver science and technology to the lunar surface. The second payload is Celestis’ Memorial Spaceflights deep space Voyager mission, the Enterprise Flight.

Launch Date and Time: NET Jan. 8, 2023

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ULA's Website has been updated, officially NET January 8th:

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VULCAN TO LAUNCH FIRST CERTIFICATION MISSION (CERT-1)

A United Launch Alliance (ULA) Vulcan VC2S rocket will launch the first certification mission from Space Launch Complex-41 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida. The Cert-1 flight test mission includes two payloads, the first Peregrine Lunar Lander, Peregrine Mission One (PM1) for Astrobotic as part of NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) initiative to deliver science and technology to the lunar surface. The second payload is Celestis’ Memorial Spaceflights deep space Voyager mission, the Enterprise Flight.

Launch Date and Time: NET Jan. 8, 2023

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The launch date column now says "TBD".
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Ground system had a couple of (routine) issues, (being corrected).

Always better when the issues are routine?  Its nice spin I suppose, but issues should not be routine, thats why they are issues.

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ULA's Website has been updated, officially NET January 8th:

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VULCAN TO LAUNCH FIRST CERTIFICATION MISSION (CERT-1)

A United Launch Alliance (ULA) Vulcan VC2S rocket will launch the first certification mission from Space Launch Complex-41 at Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida. The Cert-1 flight test mission includes two payloads, the first Peregrine Lunar Lander, Peregrine Mission One (PM1) for Astrobotic as part of NASA’s Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) initiative to deliver science and technology to the lunar surface. The second payload is Celestis’ Memorial Spaceflights deep space Voyager mission, the Enterprise Flight.

Launch Date and Time: NET Jan. 8, 2023

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The launch date column now says "TBD".
Tory said "next Peregrine launch window is January 8". He did not say ULA was aiming to launch Vulcan on January 8. I think it's a bit early for ULA to have completely analyzed the WDR results. Thus, NET January 8 is all they can honestly say.

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Let's all step way back and remember that an issue on the ground is infinitely preferrable to an issue in flight.
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Let's all step way back and remember that an issue on the ground is infinitely preferrable to an issue in flight.

That is the irony. The two issues were on the ground side support systems while the Vulcan Centaur vehicle did fine.

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Is it only a one day window in Jan? Are you able to share the other dates?

https://twitter.com/torybruno/status/1733944885722357933

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Looking like 4 days

With Axiom-3 currently the 10th January will be interesting to see how range availability pans out.

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Ground system had a couple of (routine) issues, (being corrected).

Always better when the issues are routine?  Its nice spin I suppose, but issues should not be routine, thats why they are issues.


It is routine to have issues in the first few launches with a new vehicle/pad system. My spin detector is reading absolute 0k

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Ground system had a couple of (routine) issues, (being corrected).

Always better when the issues are routine?  Its nice spin I suppose, but issues should not be routine, thats why they are issues.


It is routine to have issues in the first few launches with a new vehicle/pad system. My spin detector is reading absolute 0k
“Typical” is a better word than “routine”, but I wouldn’t split my hair about it :)

 

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