Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 09/18/2024 07:05 amQuotePolaris is a partnership org with SpaceX that exists to assist in the development and testing of new technology that furthers humankind’s ambitions to explore among the stars. As for what we are called, I feel like that’s a topic people have wasted a lot of brainpower debating.I imagine SpaceX paid for the EVA suit development, but really curious whose idea it was to fly 2 SpaceXers on Polaris Dawn and who paid?!Even if we had full access to the accounts, I imagine that "who paid?" would be an almost impossible question to answer when two organisations are partnering, with each contributing resources and each getting benefit.How much discount on the launch cost did SpaceX give? Does this count as "paying"? Did the level of discount depend on how many seats were available to SpaceX? Does providing goods and services at cost rather than market rate count as paying, or is it only paying when you drop below cost?Did Jared pay SpaceX to use their new EVA suits, or did SpaceX pay Jared to test their new EVA suits?
QuotePolaris is a partnership org with SpaceX that exists to assist in the development and testing of new technology that furthers humankind’s ambitions to explore among the stars. As for what we are called, I feel like that’s a topic people have wasted a lot of brainpower debating.I imagine SpaceX paid for the EVA suit development, but really curious whose idea it was to fly 2 SpaceXers on Polaris Dawn and who paid?!
Polaris is a partnership org with SpaceX that exists to assist in the development and testing of new technology that furthers humankind’s ambitions to explore among the stars. As for what we are called, I feel like that’s a topic people have wasted a lot of brainpower debating.
QuoteJared, real nitpick question: is the Polaris Program a company, a nonprofit, or some other kind of thing? In my listings I am wrestling with how to represent y'all in a way that distinguishes you from 'space tourist' - currently putting you in the 'business traveller' category!https://twitter.com/rookisaacman/status/1836248499588849925QuotePolaris is a partnership org with SpaceX that exists to assist in the development and testing of new technology that furthers humankind’s ambitions to explore among the stars. As for what we are called, I feel like that’s a topic people have wasted a lot of brainpower debating.I imagine SpaceX paid for the EVA suit development, but really curious whose idea it was to fly 2 SpaceXers on Polaris Dawn and who paid?!
Jared, real nitpick question: is the Polaris Program a company, a nonprofit, or some other kind of thing? In my listings I am wrestling with how to represent y'all in a way that distinguishes you from 'space tourist' - currently putting you in the 'business traveller' category!
Oct 11, 2024Polaris Dawn Mission Commander Jared Isaacman joins Ed Ludlow to discuss his experience with SpaceX and the Polaris mission, when to expect Polaris 2, and his involvement in the Starship program. He also explains why SpaceX is "a beacon" for the space industry and how it continues to inspire generations of engineers who believe in a multiplanetary future.
A couple of points of note from Jared’s livestream with NSF just now:He expects the next Polaris mission to be in a coupe of years (based on likely needing to develop things for that mission & 2 years feels like a realistic timeframe)It’s possible the Polaris Program could end up with more than three missions. SpaceX are a partner in the program and there may be other useful stepping stones to include in additional missions. (No mention of financing for such missions.)
🎙️ @rookisaacman of the @PolarisProgram joins me on the podcast to talk about the Polaris Dawn mission, his EVA experience, the Hubble situation, how Polaris and SpaceX approach tech development and flight planning, and more. Go Birds.
Donald Trump has nominated Jared Isaacman to be the next NASA administrator:https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61820.msg2646124#msg2646124If he is ultimately appointed, no idea what that means for the Polaris program. But there’s a way to go before any appointment confirmation - so for now let’s keep this thread on Polaris and discuss NASA administrator elsewhere.
Given Polaris 2 is supposed to be Starship (unless I recall incorrectly) it wasn’t really going to happen in the next four years anyway.
Quote from: FutureSpaceTourist on 12/04/2024 03:11 pmDonald Trump has nominated Jared Isaacman to be the next NASA administrator:https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=61820.msg2646124#msg2646124If he is ultimately appointed, no idea what that means for the Polaris program. But there’s a way to go before any appointment confirmation - so for now let’s keep this thread on Polaris and discuss NASA administrator elsewhere.My guess is that it delays Polaris by at least 4 years.
Why can't the Polaris missions go on without Isaacman?
There may no longer be any reason for continuing Polaris Program. The program exists to help SpaceX developing technologies for their human Mars mission, this was necessary since NASA was not doing it. But with Isaacman as NASA administrator under a president who want to land Americans on Mars, he can just redirect NASA to help SpaceX instead.
Quote from: thespacecow on 12/05/2024 11:22 amThere may no longer be any reason for continuing Polaris Program. The program exists to help SpaceX developing technologies for their human Mars mission, this was necessary since NASA was not doing it. But with Isaacman as NASA administrator under a president who want to land Americans on Mars, he can just redirect NASA to help SpaceX instead.You don't define why the program exists, Isaacman does, and it is obvious that there are multiple reasons why the program exists, with philanthropy being a huge part of the equation (among other things). Obviously the program has been developed in cooperation with SpaceX, but as long as Isaacman is the one paying the bills, he has his own reasons for doing things that are not identical to SpaceX goals.
