A spacecraft with readout and film return with 4 buckets might have accounted for its large size in Klass's mind, and not a larger film format. A HEXAGON with readout and the same film load would have been a much larger spacecraft.
We think (me and LB) that Klass learned about the large flight-qualified deployable dish antenna and assumed that it was for the HEXAGON. He therefore assumed it was both film-return and film-readout (or scanning). It's not a bad assumption, it was just wrong.
Surprisingly, Perkin-Elmer did pitch a near-real-time version of the HEXAGON. I'll have to write that in the future. I don't think it was serious. However, they put the S3 system on it, which did have some near-real-time capability for the late missions. I think if that had been available earlier, they would have used it more.For those who don't know, HEXAGON could scan a huge amount of territory very fast in pretty good resolution. Each film frame contained a tremendous amount of information, many gigabytes. There was no way to send down that much information quickly at that time. Even today it would probably stress the capabilities of current technology if you attempted to do the maximum that a HEXAGON could do.
Shhhhhh!!! Pay no attention to the Big Bird…by Dwayne A. DayMonday, September 22, 2025In the first half of 1971, it was becoming clear that something big was about to happen at Vandenberg Air Force Base in California. Workers had prepared a launch pad for a new, larger rocket, the Titan IIID. This was to be the biggest, most powerful rocket ever launched from the West Coast, equipped with two solid rocket motors on its side. Previously, the Air Force had planned to launch the Titan IIIM with the Manned Orbiting Laboratory from Vandenberg. It would have been more powerful than the IIID, but it was canceled in 1969. There was no way to keep the large rocket secret—when it rose up over the low mountains, people in nearby Lompoc would see it, people to the south in Santa Barbara would see it, and people in much more populated Los Angeles would also probably see it.In mid-June 1971, the Director of the National Reconnaissance Office, John McLucas, wrote to the Director of Central Intelligence, Richard Helms, to inform him of what was about to happen:“Previous experience with new space launchings indicates that we may expect some media coverage of the initial HEXAGON launch. This will be the first time that a booster as large as the Titan IIID has been launched from Vandenberg Air Force Base and will indicate a major new program. In this period of limited space activity any new program commands national interest.”McLucas stated that the only official comment regarding the launch would be a post-launch announcement that a satellite employing the Titan IIID was launched from Vandenberg. No other questions would be answered and all the press would get was, “The payload is classified and no additional information can be provided.”
As Blackstar notesQuoteWe think (me and LB) that Klass learned about the large flight-qualified deployable dish antenna and assumed that it was for the HEXAGON. He therefore assumed it was both film-return and film-readout (or scanning). It's not a bad assumption, it was just wrong.One reason he thought this is probably that he thought that there were already film scanning “search and find” satellites in operation (in fact a bucket dropper, CORONA) complementing the “close look” satellites (in fact GAMBIT).The thing I find intriguing is that he didn’t just have a rumour about the dish, he had seen documents that Lockheed had produced in the face of skepticism from Fairchild’s competitors on ATS -F, saying that a space qualified 20 ft dish was available. This aspect is more relevant to my Fairchild and ATS -6 thread so I’ll move it there (though travelling so may not be today). I am of course intrigued by why he didn’t think it was for SIGINT-perhaps because GEO SIGINT wasn’t thought to be a thing…
Klaas' line of thought seems to have included both the Space-Ground Link System (SGLS) and Compass Link. Attached are a few pages of his 1971 (written in 1970?) book "Secret Sentries in Space".
Quote from: LittleBird on 09/24/2025 07:14 amAs Blackstar notesQuoteWe think (me and LB) that Klass learned about the large flight-qualified deployable dish antenna and assumed that it was for the HEXAGON. He therefore assumed it was both film-return and film-readout (or scanning). It's not a bad assumption, it was just wrong.One reason he thought this is probably that he thought that there were already film scanning “search and find” satellites in operation (in fact a bucket dropper, CORONA) complementing the “close look” satellites (in fact GAMBIT).The thing I find intriguing is that he didn’t just have a rumour about the dish, he had seen documents that Lockheed had produced in the face of skepticism from Fairchild’s competitors on ATS -F, saying that a space qualified 20 ft dish was available. This aspect is more relevant to my Fairchild and ATS -6 thread so I’ll move it there (though travelling so may not be today). I am of course intrigued by why he didn’t think it was for SIGINT-perhaps because GEO SIGINT wasn’t thought to be a thing…Klaas' line of thought seems to have included both the Space-Ground Link System (SGLS) and Compass Link. Attached are a few pages of his 1971 (written in 1970?) book "Secret Sentries in Space".
<snip> I am curious as to how his deductive processes worked though, and why for example he and Aviation Week so confidently decided that what we now know to be CANYON 1 in 1968 was an "advanced MIDAS" (see pp 179-182), having linked the upcoming secret synchronous Atlas Agena launches to Vela-type treaty monitoring when they first heard about them the year before. They stuck to this interpretation as late as 1975, long after DSP had made its debut. One can't help wondering if a little bit of misdirection was being applied by some of his sources. If so it was certainly effective, because the possible SIGINT significance of a 20 ft space qualified dish seems to have eluded him completely. One has also to wonder what, if anything, the Russians made of it.
Those are Cape Canaveral press release cards or something to that effect I posted.
Quote from: WallE on 09/29/2025 01:42 pmThose are Cape Canaveral press release cards or something to that effect I posted. No, those are not press releases or any official. They are postal covers or cachets produced by philatelists.
Quote from: Jim on 09/29/2025 01:55 pmQuote from: WallE on 09/29/2025 01:42 pmThose are Cape Canaveral press release cards or something to that effect I posted. No, those are not press releases or any official. They are postal covers or cachets produced by philatelists.Yeah, a lot of these were produced using artwork taken from Aviation Week or somewhere else.
Quote from: Blackstar on 09/29/2025 02:10 pmQuote from: Jim on 09/29/2025 01:55 pmQuote from: WallE on 09/29/2025 01:42 pmThose are Cape Canaveral press release cards or something to that effect I posted. No, those are not press releases or any official. They are postal covers or cachets produced by philatelists.Yeah, a lot of these were produced using artwork taken from Aviation Week or somewhere else. And every launch to them was a SAMOS or MIDAS.