Wow!!! I've been looking forward to these for a long time!
Great pictures... of course the Tin Foil Hat crowd will insist the reason these pictures weren't released in real time is because it took Nasa time to photoshop the spacecraft into the pictures... .... at least that is what I expect to hear..
Future LROC images from these sites will have two to three times greater resolution.
Will these photos be enough to silence the conspiracy theorists?
Quote from: stockman on 07/17/2009 05:35 pmGreat pictures... of course the Tin Foil Hat crowd will insist the reason these pictures weren't released in real time is because it took Nasa time to photoshop the spacecraft into the pictures... .... at least that is what I expect to hear..Alas, you're probably right. However, looking at the pictures and reading this QuoteFuture LROC images from these sites will have two to three times greater resolution.can't help thinking "gotcha, moon hoaxers!! "
But it does not have links to these wonderful images
A 1999 Gallup poll found that a scant 6 percent of Americans doubted the Apollo 11 moon landing happened, and there is anecdotal evidence that the ranks of such conspiracy theorists, fueled by innuendo-filled documentaries and the Internet, are growing.
Do we see the Rovers shadows as well ?or is it my wishfull thinking (lol)JJ..
QuoteA 1999 Gallup poll found that a scant 6 percent of Americans doubted the Apollo 11 moon landing happened, and there is anecdotal evidence that the ranks of such conspiracy theorists, fueled by innuendo-filled documentaries and the Internet, are growing.http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/07/17/moon.landing.hoax/index.htmlI did not know that there are so many people who do not believe!
Great Pix.I had no idea that it took NASA engineers forty years to learn how to use PhotoShop. Maybe they should look for easier to use software.
Quote from: Yegor on 07/17/2009 07:44 pmQuoteA 1999 Gallup poll found that a scant 6 percent of Americans doubted the Apollo 11 moon landing happened, and there is anecdotal evidence that the ranks of such conspiracy theorists, fueled by innuendo-filled documentaries and the Internet, are growing.http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/07/17/moon.landing.hoax/index.htmlI did not know that there are so many people who do not believe! Actually the percentage of " space disinterested" people is much higher so the 6 % estimate isn't too bad. Also consider the rampant ignorance despite this wonderful age of accessible information.
I wish terrain features were annotated such as; "the crater Neil Armstrong had to manually fly over" or "cone crater" Notable landmarks, you know?EDIT: syntax
Can LRO take pictures in color?It would be much more impressive.
"I do know the moon landings were faked," said crusading filmmaker Bart Sibrel, whose aggressive interview tactics once provoked Aldrin to punch him in the face. "I'd bet my life on it."
Quote"I do know the moon landings were faked," said crusading filmmaker Bart Sibrel, whose aggressive interview tactics once provoked Aldrin to punch him in the face.
"I do know the moon landings were faked," said crusading filmmaker Bart Sibrel, whose aggressive interview tactics once provoked Aldrin to punch him in the face.
Quote from: DirtyDeeds on 07/17/2009 11:06 pmQuote"I do know the moon landings were faked," said crusading filmmaker Bart Sibrel, whose aggressive interview tactics once provoked Aldrin to punch him in the face.One of the great moments in spaceflight history. For those who haven't seen it:
It angers me that CNN has still not put these images up and still have the Moon Hoax garbage story up there. This is why I refuse to watch the main networks for space coverage. I stopped watching Fox after they aired that Moon Hoax special, and now CNN drops to the same level of mediocrity...
WRT the "6 percent" figure, look at that and then look at the state of the general population. The population that idolizes the wrong people for the wrong reasons, the population that rewards stupidity and apathy while punishing intelligence and curiosity, the population whose alpha and omega are "what's in it for me?" The population that feeds its narcissism on Twitter, Facebook, YouTube. It explains itself./rant
I bet that more than 6% of the population believes in angels. Anybody seen an angel around lately?
Quote from: gladiator1332 on 07/18/2009 12:43 amIt angers me that CNN has still not put these images up and still have the Moon Hoax garbage story up there. This is why I refuse to watch the main networks for space coverage. I stopped watching Fox after they aired that Moon Hoax special, and now CNN drops to the same level of mediocrity...I totally agree with you.CNN still does not have an article about "LRO Sees Apollo Landing Sites" almost 24 hour after the release!!! Not even in their Tech section!I am very frustrated. A news like this I would expect to be a world front page news. But it seems nobody cares - nor CNN, nor Yahoo, nor FOX
Quote from: Yegor on 07/18/2009 02:36 pmQuote from: gladiator1332 on 07/18/2009 12:43 amIt angers me that CNN has still not put these images up and still have the Moon Hoax garbage story up there. This is why I refuse to watch the main networks for space coverage. I stopped watching Fox after they aired that Moon Hoax special, and now CNN drops to the same level of mediocrity...I totally agree with you.CNN still does not have an article about "LRO Sees Apollo Landing Sites" almost 24 hour after the release!!! Not even in their Tech section!I am very frustrated. A news like this I would expect to be a world front page news. But it seems nobody cares - nor CNN, nor Yahoo, nor FOX Only MSNBC has the headline about LOR seeing the sites. It is pathetic what these stations call "news" these days.
I think I may be confused by the direction of the shadows produced by the LM descent stages. When the landings happened, the sun was behind the LM and the front was in shadow. The sun appears to be in an opposite angle in the LRO images with the rear of the LM in shadow. Have I got that right? I'm LOVING these images, BTW!
I'm pleased to say the BBC news report on this doesn't contain a single mention of conspiracy theorists.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8157368.stm
NASA may soon prove once and for all the moon landing was real - its Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter is now circling the moon with powerful cameras, snapping high-resolution photos that could show the Apollo 11's Eagle lander still perched on the lunar surface.
Quote from: floron on 07/18/2009 06:18 pmI'm pleased to say the BBC news report on this doesn't contain a single mention of conspiracy theorists.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/8157368.stmGood for Britain! It looks like they are the first from the big news agencies with the news.
What kind of camera did we send on LRO? At least as good as the MRO camera?
There's actually more to this than public relations. NASA is actually trying to obtain geologic context of the sites so that the samples collected from them can be better understood. They can use their various sensors to determine what the minerological context is and things like that.
From what I understand it's also very useful in the other direction: Observation of a site we have known samples from helps calibrate observations of other places.
Lunokhod 2s position is known very accurately AFAIK
Quote from: hop on 10/30/2009 08:59 pmLunokhod 2s position is known very accurately AFAIKAs a result of a laser retroreflector? If so, why wouldn't Lunokhod 1's position be similarly well known?
There's actually more to this than public relations. NASA is actually trying to obtain geologic context of the sites so that the samples collected from them can be better understood. They can use their various sensors to determine what the minerological context is and things like that.They are also seeking the Soviet sample return sites. It turns out that the locations are not well known, so finding them would help determine what kind of terrain the collected material came from.In short, there's a legitimate scientific goal to looking for the previous landing sites.
http://www.onorbit.com/node/1658Apollo 17 landing site photos, updated.
Maybe some Lunar Orbiter impact craters can be found and imaged.........
Quote from: Proponent on 10/31/2009 02:54 amQuote from: hop on 10/30/2009 08:59 pmLunokhod 2s position is known very accurately AFAIKAs a result of a laser retroreflector? If so, why wouldn't Lunokhod 1's position be similarly well known?The Lunokhod 1 retroreflector never really worked, possibly failed to open or got covered by dirt.
Quote from: Art LeBrun on 11/01/2009 05:30 pmMaybe some Lunar Orbiter impact craters can be found and imaged.........I have my doubts. They were not controlled to impact, so we probably have no idea where they came down.
Lunokhod 2 was the one that was covered in dirt, and forced to end its mission prematurely.
Apollo 11 site, complete with the footpads:http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/uploads/lm_westcrater.png. . .
"that our flag was still there..."http://lroc.sese.asu.edu/news/index.php?/archives/620-Question-Answered!.htmlhttp://featured-sites.lroc.asu.edu/