Author Topic: SCRUB: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) ATTEMPT 1 - LAUNCH UPDATES  (Read 76833 times)

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #120 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 pm »
Aborting launch due to boat in range area.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #121 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 pm »
I hope the captain of that boat is severely penalized.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #122 on: 10/27/2014 09:46 pm »
into abort safing

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #123 on: 10/27/2014 09:47 pm »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

I'd set the fine at the sum total of the daily salary of everyone who's time was just wasted.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #124 on: 10/27/2014 09:47 pm »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

I suspect that would be a seven figure bill, but it won't happen of course.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #125 on: 10/27/2014 09:47 pm »
I would be satisfied if he was publicly humiliated in the local newspapers.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #126 on: 10/27/2014 09:47 pm »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

In all seriousness, are vessels that violate launch range conditions assessed fines or otherwise penalized?
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #127 on: 10/27/2014 09:48 pm »
Safing vehicle.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #128 on: 10/27/2014 09:48 pm »
Well, with the launch scrubbed, off to vote Mayor Rob Ford and his brother out of office in Toronto's municipal elections. Hope the launch scrub wasn't an omen.  ;)

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #129 on: 10/27/2014 09:49 pm »
 UGHH COME ON NOT FAIR

Really wish the boat owner gets a couple hours community service

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #130 on: 10/27/2014 09:49 pm »
Next attempt at 5:19 pm tomorrow.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #131 on: 10/27/2014 09:50 pm »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

In all seriousness, are vessels that violate launch range conditions assessed fines or otherwise penalized?

Several years ago, I was talking to the people who run MARS (Mid Atlantic Regional Spaceport @ Wallops) - unlike the Cape, they have no authority to declare a restricted zone or to require boats or ships to leave the area. Their suborbital launches are routinely scrubbed due to boats in the area. The skipper of this boat won't get more than a stern warning, if that...

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #132 on: 10/27/2014 09:50 pm »
That boat needs to get a ticket
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #133 on: 10/27/2014 09:50 pm »
Next attempt at 5:19 pm tomorrow.

That's probably 5:19 Central, or 6:19 EDT (2219 UTC)

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #134 on: 10/27/2014 09:51 pm »
FTS to external power.
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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #135 on: 10/27/2014 09:51 pm »
Unbelievable!

Anyone know if they had any coast guard ships or helicopters available to approach the boat and tell them to leave the area?

I recall they always did this for Cape launches whenever a boat was in the range.

For Wallops, can they only try to contact the boat by radio and wait and hope it responds?

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #136 on: 10/27/2014 09:51 pm »
Boat turns out to be a large barge with a "SpaceX" logo painted on it ;)

Better luck tomorrow.

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #137 on: 10/27/2014 09:52 pm »
Hydraulics are discharging. Cygnus transferring to external power.
« Last Edit: 10/27/2014 09:52 pm by Steven Pietrobon »
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I would be satisfied if he was publicly humiliated in the local newspapers.

Over here in England, we used to put people in stocks and throw rotten fruit at them for public humiliation.

Just saying ;)

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Re: LIVE: Orbital's Antares/Cygnus ORB-3 (CRS-3) LAUNCH UPDATES
« Reply #139 on: 10/27/2014 09:53 pm »
I hope that boat owner gets a nice fat bill for this scrub 

:(

In all seriousness, are vessels that violate launch range conditions assessed fines or otherwise penalized?

Several years ago, I was talking to the people who run MARS (Mid Atlantic Regional Spaceport @ Wallops) - unlike the Cape, they have no authority to declare a restricted zone or to require boats or ships to leave the area. Their suborbital launches are routinely scrubbed due to boats in the area. The skipper of this boat won't get more than a stern warning, if that...

So, the skipper deserves a spent booster on his head... or at least a fairing . 8)

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