The more things change, the more they stay the same.Space Launch (lift) is back as part of the acquisition process and not part of “operations""The Space Force released the organizational structure for its new Space Systems Command April 8. The Command is set to officially stand up in summer 2021 once all required conditions are met to re-designate the Space and Missile Systems Center at Los Angeles Air Force Base, California, as SSC headquarters.
Are you saying that the under the new structure, lift will be transferred from operations back to acquisition? Or are you saying that an anticipated transfer from acquisition to operations will not now occur. If the former, when was lift transferred to operations?
With the creation of Air Force Space Command in the early 80s. Lift was traditionally under Air Force Systems Command (since it was Benny Schreiver's baby),
but when the air force decided to go in on the space shuttle, it realigned lift to be operational.
Quote from: Jim on 05/12/2021 12:42 pmThe more things change, the more they stay the same.Space Launch (lift) is back as part of the acquisition process and not part of “operations""The Space Force released the organizational structure for its new Space Systems Command April 8. The Command is set to officially stand up in summer 2021 once all required conditions are met to re-designate the Space and Missile Systems Center at Los Angeles Air Force Base, California, as SSC headquarters.Are you saying that the under the new structure, lift will be transferred from operations back to acquisition? Or are you saying that an anticipated transfer from acquisition to operations will not now occur. If the former, when was lift transferred to operations?
Quote from: bodhiandphysics on 05/12/2021 06:23 pmWith the creation of Air Force Space Command in the early 80s. Lift was traditionally under Air Force Systems Command (since it was Benny Schreiver's baby), Huh? All space was Benny Schreiver's babes and not just launch vehicles. Space Command came in being more than 15 years after Schriever had retired.Quote from: bodhiandphysics on 05/12/2021 06:23 pm but when the air force decided to go in on the space shuttle, it realigned lift to be operational. No, the Air Force had already got off the shuttle (with only two more mission left) when the realignment happened.
Obviously you were there in the weeds, but as I understand it, the air force didn't abandon the space shuttle till after challenger (and didn't close its manned spaceflight division till 89). AFSC was stood up in 82, with the obvious goal of absorbing Space Division
Dumb question, but is the alignment to acquisitions partly a side effect of using expendables, such that if there was a move to reusable vehicles, it might go back to operations again?
VANDENBERG AFB RENAMES THE BASE ALIGNING UNDER U.S. SPACE FORCE30th Space Wing Public Affairs / Published May 12, 2021VANDENBERG AIR FORCE BASE, Calif. -- Vandenberg Air Force Base is renaming the base and redesignating the 30th Space Wing during a ceremony, Friday, May 14, 2 p.m. on the Parade Field.This ceremony will rename Vandenberg Air Force Base to Vandenberg Space Force Base, and the 30th Space Wing will redesignate to Space Launch Delta 30, under Space Operations Command, United States Space Force. Redesignating Air Force installations as Space Force installations is critical to establishing a distinct culture and identity for the Space Force.Col. Anthony Mastalir and Chief Master Sgt. Jason DeLucy will remain in their command roles, as the commander and command chief of Space Launch Delta 30.During this ceremony, the 30th Operations Group and 30th Mission Support Group will inactivate and transition from the operations and mission support group commanders to vice commander positions. This new organization allows squadron commanders to report directly to the SLD 30 commander, creating efficiency on all echelons.
Is there a precedent for describing an organizational unit within a military hierarchy as a "Delta?"