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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #20 on: 08/05/2018 06:40 pm »
I'd be a lot more excited about it if it weren't behind a paywall

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #21 on: 08/05/2018 06:58 pm »
https://geektyrant.com/news/patrick-stewart-official-set-to-reprise-his-role-of-captain-picard-in-new-star-trek-series

Another source.

The new series is being developed by Star Trek: Discovery co-creator/executive producer Alex Kurtzman...
Kurtzman will be joined by producers James Duff, Akiva Goldsman, Michael Chabon, and Discovery writer Kirsten Beyer.


Life got crazy during Voyager for me and I never really followed the new series.

Still a Old Star Fan I guess I just enjoy campy.
TNG and DS9 were great.
Voyager they lost their way with techno mumbo jumbo etc...  in addition to a war ship that never seemed to show age or battle scars.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #22 on: 08/05/2018 08:02 pm »
Looks like the Discovery showrunners are involved. 

So what. I love the way people rush to judgement on a show where the scripts haven’t  even been written. Plus there are many more producers than that.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #23 on: 08/05/2018 08:09 pm »
I'm excited to see Picard coming back!

It doesn't guarantee a good show.  There were plenty of bad Next Generation episodes, especially in the first couple of seasons.  But at least with Picard there is great potential there.

I also liked the tone of Next Generation better than the tone of any more recent Star Trek outings.  Here's hoping they bring back the Next Generation tone along with Patrick Stewart.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #24 on: 08/05/2018 08:39 pm »
I'm excited to see Picard coming back!

It doesn't guarantee a good show.  There were plenty of bad Next Generation episodes, especially in the first couple of seasons.  But at least with Picard there is great potential there.

I also liked the tone of Next Generation better than the tone of any more recent Star Trek outings.  Here's hoping they bring back the Next Generation tone along with Patrick Stewart.

I don’t what people have against Discovery. Yes it has a rocky start but so do many Trek shows. Plus it has a great protagonist in the first season, one of the best in any of Treks.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #25 on: 08/05/2018 10:08 pm »
I'm excited to see Picard coming back!

It doesn't guarantee a good show.  There were plenty of bad Next Generation episodes, especially in the first couple of seasons.  But at least with Picard there is great potential there.

I also liked the tone of Next Generation better than the tone of any more recent Star Trek outings.  Here's hoping they bring back the Next Generation tone along with Patrick Stewart.

I don’t what people have against Discovery. Yes it has a rocky start but so do many Trek shows. Plus it has a great protagonist in the first season, one of the best in any of Treks.
Agreed. Discovery is great especially considering the turmoil in which it was created. I think it found it's footing way faster than TNG,  DS9 or Voyager. I never got into Enterprise so I can't speak to that.

And I can't wait to see Patrick Steward again. With any luck he'll have input into the new show and help it find it's footing quickly.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #26 on: 08/06/2018 01:30 am »
Can he really at 78 pull off more than a nominal time on screen?
If he can, there is always the risk to the show that he shortly will not be able to.

I don't see a plausible way from an in-char point of view, unless they are simply ignoring the age, to have him as a captain for sixty one or so years. (thirty one after assuming command of Enterprise).

'returning as captain of the Enterprise' doesn't leave much wiggle room though.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #27 on: 08/06/2018 02:56 am »
Can he really at 78 pull off more than a nominal time on screen?
If he can, there is always the risk to the show that he shortly will not be able to.

I don't see a plausible way from an in-char point of view, unless they are simply ignoring the age, to have him as a captain for sixty one or so years. (thirty one after assuming command of Enterprise).

'returning as captain of the Enterprise' doesn't leave much wiggle room though.
I doubt he'll be an active captain.  I'm betting there is some story line where he is needed for specific experience like dealing with the Q Continuum or something else from TNG.  I'm guessing a new Enterprise and crew pick him up and take him with them as an advisor for this mission. 

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #28 on: 08/06/2018 03:10 am »
Can he really at 78 pull off more than a nominal time on screen?
If he can, there is always the risk to the show that he shortly will not be able to.

I don't see a plausible way from an in-char point of view, unless they are simply ignoring the age, to have him as a captain for sixty one or so years. (thirty one after assuming command of Enterprise).

'returning as captain of the Enterprise' doesn't leave much wiggle room though.

Stewart stated in recent you tube clips from the Star Trek Las Vegas 2018 convention that he might not be a Star Fleet Captain in the upcoming series and about 20 years have pass in the timeline since the last Picard appearance in a Star Trek movie.

Also it is not clear if CBS All Access is doing a 10-ish episode season like most cable shows or the 20 plus episode season like on broadcast television shows. Suspect it is the former.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #29 on: 08/06/2018 05:17 am »
I never got into Enterprise so I can't speak to that.

Good. We don't speak about that.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #30 on: 08/06/2018 11:44 am »
I thought that 'Enterprise' was pretty good, though it's hurried wrap-up was a let down. 'Voyager' had some good moments and most of the cast were very good - but it never quite nailed it's full potential. I've been rewatching reruns of 'Voyager' lately and it holds up better than I remember. 'DS-9' is probably my favourite TV show, overall as a drama (behind 'Babylon 5') - but my favourite Star Trek show is TNG; starting from season 3 onwards. I have watched every single episode of every single Star Trek show, 'religiously'. They all have good and bad points. But every Trek show has the odd episode that absolutely soars. 'Discovery' hasn't reached that point yet; but at least it's nowhere near as bad as I feared it was going to be.

I console myself with the fact that every Trek show seems to take awhile to find it's feet. 'Discovery' seems to be no exception. Even the original series didn't kick into overdrive until the second season, though the first season had some very good shows and the third season only a handful of truly good episodes.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #31 on: 08/06/2018 02:25 pm »
I doubt he'll be an active captain.  I'm betting there is some story line where he is needed for specific experience like dealing with the Q Continuum or something else from TNG.

If they want to tie it back in with the Abrams movies, they could set this show shortly after the destruction of Romulus (seen in "Star Trek 2009"). The Romulan government needs help from the Federation, and the only one they'll talk to is Jean-Luc Picard, who they trust because he helped them defeat Shinzon in 2002's "Star Trek: Nemesis". So out of retirement comes Picard, as a special adviser on a mission to help the Romulans pick up the pieces. The mission could be on the new USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-F with a new supporting cast, and this could be a 'back door pilot' for a successor show set on the new Enterprise after Patrick Stewart's involvement ends (this show was rumored at first to only be a mini-series, not a full-fledged weekly series.)

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #32 on: 08/06/2018 05:41 pm »
Brings to mind an old episode

All Good Things... "twenty-five years into the future, where an aged Picard has retired to the family vineyard in Labarre, France."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Good_Things..._(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)


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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #33 on: 08/06/2018 11:46 pm »
I doubt he'll be an active captain.  I'm betting there is some story line where he is needed for specific experience like dealing with the Q Continuum or something else from TNG.

If they want to tie it back in with the Abrams movies, they could set this show shortly after the destruction of Romulus (seen in "Star Trek 2009"). The Romulan government needs help from the Federation, and the only one they'll talk to is Jean-Luc Picard, who they trust because he helped them defeat Shinzon in 2002's "Star Trek: Nemesis". So out of retirement comes Picard, as a special adviser on a mission to help the Romulans pick up the pieces. The mission could be on the new USS Enterprise, NCC-1701-F with a new supporting cast, and this could be a 'back door pilot' for a successor show set on the new Enterprise after Patrick Stewart's involvement ends (this show was rumored at first to only be a mini-series, not a full-fledged weekly series.)

Except that the destruction of Romulus occurred a long time before the TNG timeline.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #34 on: 08/07/2018 12:20 am »
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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #35 on: 08/07/2018 12:50 am »
“Temba, his arms open.”

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #36 on: 08/07/2018 02:19 am »
Except that the destruction of Romulus occurred a long time before the TNG timeline.

No, it was post-TNG. Old Spock tells Young Kirk (in the mind-meld scene) that he is from "129 years from now", which puts it around the year 2387 (TNG was 2364-71 or so and "Nemesis" was around eight years later, or 2379.)

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« Reply #37 on: 08/08/2018 04:07 am »
Except that the destruction of Romulus occurred a long time before the TNG timeline.

No, it was post-TNG. Old Spock tells Young Kirk (in the mind-meld scene) that he is from "129 years from now", which puts it around the year 2387 (TNG was 2364-71 or so and "Nemesis" was around eight years later, or 2379.)

OK, technically in the future of TNG, but so far we've only seen it affect events far in the past of TNG, because it is the excuse for the fork in the timeline that creates the JJ Abrams rebooted Trek continuity.

Considering how disconnected the Abrams continuity is from all other Trek continuities, it's hard to reconcile them.  It's doubtful the destruction of Romulus will actually ever take place in the continuity that TNG and the rest of Trek takes place in.  So, in a weird way, from a causality point of view, it takes place only in the past of the Abrams continuity, which is long before TNG's time.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #38 on: 08/08/2018 01:25 pm »
OK, technically in the future of TNG, but so far we've only seen it affect events far in the past of TNG, because it is the excuse for the fork in the timeline that creates the JJ Abrams rebooted Trek continuity.

I like the Abrams movies, but I wouldn't mind if they remain in their own little universe, unrelated to the TNG era franchise.

Strictly speaking though, the time-fork happened the moment Nero appeared in the 23rd Century and proceeded to blow the USS Kelvin (and Kirk's dad) to smithereens. That started a new timeline, events that didn't originally happen.* The events in the original Star Trek timeline (the late/post-TNG era, including the destruction of Romulus) are still "Prime Universe" events, so they can be explored by a new TNG-era show, if CBS so chooses.

Now if Bad Robot (Abrams & Co.) want to reboot TNG next, they could do so in the Kelvin Universe, a timeline in which Vulcan was destroyed by Nero 75 years (or whatever) earlier.

*One can ask whatever happened to those 29th Century 'Time Cops' (i.e., the USS Relativity on Voyager or Mr. Daniels on Enterprise) who were fixing timeline incursions. How did they miss Vulcan going kablooey?

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Re: Star Trek: Picard
« Reply #39 on: 08/11/2018 05:40 pm »
I like Picard and TNG, but this seems like a *terrible* idea indicating a real lack of imagination on the creators behalf. Unless this is a very short mini-series.

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