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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #780 on: 07/25/2022 11:59 am »
For those of us who aren't fluent in financialese, what does this mean? Raising more money?

If I have the numbers right, they just sold 50% of the company for some $200 million, which works out to a total valuation of less than $400 million. That's a desperation move if I've ever seen one, basically giving up control of the company for 6-12 months of life at their current cash burn. At the IPO, they were valued at over $2 billion. A similar raise then would have cost them only 10%.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #781 on: 07/25/2022 01:29 pm »
Good argument for both raising what you can to have a big cash chest when the going is good and reducing burn rate. They already were very aggressive at execution.

Honestly, if their vehicle production costs are anything close to reality, they should consider defense applications.
« Last Edit: 07/25/2022 01:31 pm by Robotbeat »
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #782 on: 07/25/2022 03:32 pm »
Honestly, who ARE the suckers who threw away their money to buy Astra shares at this point in time? Do they know nothing about the industry?

Or do they just have an unwanted $200M to play roulette with? Boggles the mind.
« Last Edit: 07/25/2022 03:38 pm by M.E.T. »

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #783 on: 07/25/2022 04:04 pm »
Honestly, who ARE the suckers who threw away their money to buy Astra shares at this point in time? Do they know nothing about the industry?

Or do they just have an unwanted $200M to play roulette with? Boggles the mind.
Theyre less suckers than those who bought near the IPO!

Astra has at least gotten to orbit.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #784 on: 07/25/2022 04:57 pm »
Not great timing …

https://twitter.com/nomadbets/status/1551120384652632065

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Astra Space ($ASTR) held an offering after hours, basically doubling their amount of outstanding shares. Closing price according the filing was $1.49.
Also their financial report date was filed for August 4th.
Choppy seas ahead, I hope they'll pull through.

Astra did NO offering in July 2022. In fact, I don't think that Astra did an offering in 2022. That image shows the number of Astra's shares in its primary and secondary offerings at its SPAC IPO back in the summer of 2021.

If you go through Astra's filings with SEC you will find that the same number of shares listed as primary and secondary offerings on all 424B3 form filings: https://sec.report/Ticker/astr

You got fooled by that random person on Twitter or you are doing this intentionally for some purpose. Either way, you are spreading lies intended to hurt this company. Not cool.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #785 on: 07/29/2022 12:36 pm »
Honestly, who ARE the suckers who threw away their money to buy Astra shares at this point in time? Do they know nothing about the industry?

Or do they just have an unwanted $200M to play roulette with? Boggles the mind.
They know exactly what they are investing in. A money losing business for tax write off, IMO. ;)

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #786 on: 07/29/2022 01:50 pm »
I don't know about the money side of things, but Astra is a company with intellectual property that has successfully reached Earth orbit twice (so far).  There are only a few companies on that list. 

 - Ed Kyle
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #787 on: 07/29/2022 02:44 pm »
I don't know about the money side of things, but Astra is a company with intellectual property that has successfully reached Earth orbit twice (so far).  There are only a few companies on that list. 

 - Ed Kyle
Strong agree. I don’t do retail investing at all, and frankly that whole aspect of the NewSpace craze bores me.

But if we’re just talking technical stuff, reaching orbit is ridiculously hard. They’ve done it. That’s worth quite a bit all by itself.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #788 on: 07/30/2022 02:47 am »
I don't know about the money side of things, but Astra is a company with intellectual property that has successfully reached Earth orbit twice (so far).  There are only a few companies on that list. 

 - Ed Kyle
Strong agree. I don’t do retail investing at all, and frankly that whole aspect of the NewSpace craze bores me.

But if we’re just talking technical stuff, reaching orbit is ridiculously hard. They’ve done it. That’s worth quite a bit all by itself.

Not disputing the achievement. However, investment is not a reward for doing hard things, but is a bet on the company’s ability to generate a financial return on said investment over time. And that assessment should be conducted in the context of their business case.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #789 on: 07/30/2022 03:19 am »
I don't know about the money side of things, but Astra is a company with intellectual property that has successfully reached Earth orbit twice (so far).  There are only a few companies on that list. 

 - Ed Kyle
Strong agree. I don’t do retail investing at all, and frankly that whole aspect of the NewSpace craze bores me.

But if we’re just talking technical stuff, reaching orbit is ridiculously hard. They’ve done it. That’s worth quite a bit all by itself.

Not disputing the achievement. However, investment is not a reward for doing hard things, but is a bet on the company’s ability to generate a financial return on said investment over time. And that assessment should be conducted in the context of their business case.
A team capable of getting to orbit is valuable.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #790 on: 08/01/2022 01:14 pm »
https://twitter.com/astra/status/1554091607015559168

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Astra Founder, Chairman and CEO @Kemp will present at @Jefferies Industrials Conference on Tuesday, August 9, 2022 at 2.30pm ET / 11.30am PT. A live webcast will be available at https://investor.astra.com/news-and-events/events-and-presentations

From the same link there’s also:

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Upcoming Events
Astra’s Second Quarter Fiscal 2022 Financial Results Conference Call
Aug 4, 2022 at 4:30 PM EDT

Will be interesting to see if there’s any new information about the investigation into the last flight’s failure.

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #791 on: 08/02/2022 09:42 pm »
https://twitter.com/SpaceInvestor_/status/1554579808440516609

Some PE fund promised to buy up to $100M Astra stock issued in next 24month.
And this operation will not exceed 19.99% of all Astra shares.


Did not mention issue price so I assume it will floating with market price with some discount.
« Last Edit: 08/02/2022 09:43 pm by XRZ.YZ »
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #792 on: 08/04/2022 08:19 pm »
No more Rocket 3.0 launches!

Astra Earnings Statement - https://investor.astra.com/news-releases/news-release-details/astra-announces-second-quarter-2022-financial-results

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Astra announces that after two of its four Rocket 3.3 flights were successful, the Company will transition to the next version of its launch system and is working with customers to re-manifest all payloads onto the new launch system, designed for higher capacity, reliability, and production rate.

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-Updated, streamlined plan to invest in delivering higher reliability, higher capacity 600kg Launch System 2.0 to market.

-Commenced customer deliveries of the Astra Spacecraft EngineTM, with total committed orders since July 1, 2021, up 69% over Q1 2022. This includes committed orders for 14 units acquired with the Apollo Fusion acquisition.

-Began investing in new production facility to support increased demand for the Astra Spacecraft EngineTM.

-Held first inaugural Spacetech Day for investors and analysts.
Quote from: Astra
For the three months ended June 30, 2022:
GAAP Gross Loss was $14.8 million.
Adjusted Gross Loss* was $2.4 million.
GAAP Net Loss was $82.3 million.
Adjusted Net Loss* was $53.0 million.
Adjusted EBITDA Loss* of $48.4 million.
Capital expenditures during the quarter totaled $12.9 million.
Cash and cash equivalents and marketable securities totaled $200.7 million.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #793 on: 08/04/2022 08:30 pm »
PDF version of Q2 2022 results is attached

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https://twitter.com/nextspaceflight/status/1555286241997836289

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Astra has doubled the planned payload capacity for Rocket 4.0. Launch price also increases as a result.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #794 on: 08/04/2022 08:46 pm »
Wow

twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1555287020326494214

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Astra's presentation for the Q2 conference call says that the TROPICS-1 mission failure investigation is still ongoing. $ASTR

https://twitter.com/thesheetztweetz/status/1555293159109922818

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$ASTR CEO Chris Kemp: "We will not have any additional flights in 2022."

https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1555292835259338755

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Astra CEO Chris Kemp said it's not certain that the company will resume commercial launches in 2023. It will depend on how development and testing goes with the next generation launch system. May be later.

twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1555293237652475904

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NASA is an unreal customer. Told Astra it's willing to wait for "launch system 2.0" for the Tropics mission.

https://twitter.com/sciguyspace/status/1555294068497960960

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Astra presently has about $200 million in cash and marketable securities on hand. Obviously the current burn rate is not sustainable. Perhaps they'll get enough revenue from their in-space thruster business (Astra Spacecraft Engine). I don't know. Finances look pretty tough.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #795 on: 08/04/2022 10:03 pm »
Astra mentioned rocket 4.0 as higher liability launch system.
Probably confirming designed with 95% reliability is not a good idea afterall.

Revenue of $2.7M. Cost of revenue $17M, presumably including failed Rocket 3.3 launch.
Unlike RL, Astra's satellite components business is very small and probably do not have serious impact in company operation.


R&D $41M
Sale & Marketing $5M
Admin $20M
Total operating cost at $67M

Net loss $82M

Cash &equivalent $104M, (Q1 $161M)
Marketable security $96M (Q1 $93M)

Operating cash flow -$44M (Q1 -$48M)
Capex -$11M (Q1 -$20M)
Free cash flow -$55M (Q1 -$69M)

Cash run rate better than Q1 majorly from reduced capex.
On operating side, they loss $45M is steady.
$20M admin cost is way too high for company of this size.

 Let's say $40M R&D/quarter for 3 year until reliable Rocket 4.0 launch.
That is about $500M cost.

Which they do not have thatch money in hand (200M+100M from stock purchase agreement  signed a few days ago) And later is not money in hand yet.

And how can they earn this back with $5M Rocket 4.0 service?
Assuming they earn $1M gross profit each launch. They need 20 launch a quarter just for their admin cost.


Seem like the management are producing more vaporware instead of working product so they can move more investment money into their own wallet.
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #797 on: 08/04/2022 10:20 pm »
Astra mentioned rocket 4.0 as higher liability launch system.
Probably confirming designed with 95% reliability is not a good idea afterall.

I think you meant "rocket 4.0 as higher reliability launch system." Although this may have been a Freudian slip...

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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #798 on: 08/04/2022 11:20 pm »
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Re: Astra Space
« Reply #799 on: 08/04/2022 11:49 pm »
A 600kg LV is to big for single smallsat dedicated launch and to small to compete against 1000kg class LVs of which there are 3  due to launch in 2022.
I very much doubt Astra will be profitable enough at $5M a launch when 1000kg LVs are in $10-15m range.

This changing directions without completing existing product especially one that is nearly operational is not good look.
If Rocket 3.0 was profitable they should see it through to regular and reliable launch. The cashflow even if not enough to keep wolves from doors should buy them time. Lessons learnt will also be valuable when building larger LV.
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