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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #40 on: 06/28/2022 05:56 am »
Here is the link to the livestream.

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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #41 on: 07/03/2022 11:46 pm »
It seems that the latest (and presumably all) of ELA's NASA launches aren't out over the ocean to the east away from populated areas like everyone thought, but back into Aboriginal lands to the south-west!!!  :o :o

I mean, imagine if NASA just decided to lob sounding rockets from CC into the Florida swamps completely unannounced??

Understandably, this has a few locals rather upset:
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NASA has overcome unusual challenges to collect all but one piece of the rocket launched from Arnhem Land on Monday morning, officials said.

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Aboriginal rangers helped NASA locate parts of its recently-launched rocket

A local MP has raised concerns about where parts of the rocket landed

The company that runs the launch pad has denied any safety issues

Pieces of the suborbital sounding rocket were tracked as far as 220 kilometres from the launch pad near Nhulunbuy, from where it blasted off in the early hours of Monday morning.

Yolngu rangers assisted with recovery efforts and said the mission headed into some tough terrain.

"We've got buffaloes and snakes around, you have to be careful," Djawa "Timmy" Burarrwanga, the managing director of Dhimurru Aboriginal Corporation, said.

Using a helicopter, NASA's advanced mapping technology and Yolngu tracking knowledge, Mr Burarrwanga said the group was able to recover most of the rocket's pieces.

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Yingiya Guyula, the independent member for Mulka, which covers the new Arnhem Space Centre where NASA is conducting launches, said he had "grave fears" about where the pieces of the rocket were ending up, including on Mimal land in central Arnhem Land.

"It was something that should've been looked at more carefully," Mr Guyula said.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-07-03/nasa-rocket-recovery-arnhem-land-northern-territory/101203388
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ELA's chief executive Michael Jones said NASA and ELA had undertaken risk assessments and probability studies on the dangers and had been cleared by Australia's regulatory authority.

Really!??!  And with the next one set to go tonight, I think there'd be a fair few who might disagree.. and that's not a good look for NASA, the ASA and rocket launch in general.  :-[



« Last Edit: 07/04/2022 05:17 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #42 on: 07/04/2022 05:08 am »
Equatorial Launch Australia, the owner and operator of Arnhem Space Centre, announced today’s scheduled launch of the NASA SISTINE mission has been delayed 24 hours due to the impact of the weather on the launch.

It is rescheduled for 8:24pm on Tuesday 5 July 2022. <- Local time

https://ela.space/sistine-launch-delayed-due-to-weather-conditions/
« Last Edit: 07/04/2022 05:09 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #43 on: 07/04/2022 07:57 am »
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ELA's chief executive Michael Jones said NASA and ELA had undertaken risk assessments and probability studies on the dangers and had been cleared by Australia's regulatory authority.

Really!??!  And with the next one set to go tonight, I think there'd be a fair few who might disagree.. and that's not a good look for NASA, the ASA and rocket launch in general.  :-[

Interesting you didn't have this same objection when Gilmour popped their top in Central Queensland and spilled HTP everywhere. I guess concern for flying rockets only becomes a concern when they actually fly.

More seriously, Australia is one one the more heavily regulated and risk averse jurisdictions in the world. If ELA and NASA did risk assessments and they were approved by the relevant government regulator it seems fine?

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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #44 on: 07/05/2022 12:21 am »
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ELA's chief executive Michael Jones said NASA and ELA had undertaken risk assessments and probability studies on the dangers and had been cleared by Australia's regulatory authority.

Really!??!  And with the next one set to go tonight, I think there'd be a fair few who might disagree.. and that's not a good look for NASA, the ASA and rocket launch in general.  :-[

Interesting you didn't have this same objection when Gilmour popped their top in Central Queensland and spilled HTP everywhere. I guess concern for flying rockets only becomes a concern when they actually fly.

I must say I'm not sure I knew about that one, but yes, my concern has always been more for the safety of life and property under the flight path of some errant missile fragment than for somebody's toy rocket going up in smoke. Refer my sig.

From ABC News reports, it seems the best ELA thought to do in this particular case was get the local radio station to broadcast a warning in the local language beforehand.. as if everyone in the Territory just sits around listening to the radio all day long.  "Look out! The sky is falling!" ::)

More seriously, Australia is one one the more heavily regulated and risk averse jurisdictions in the world. If ELA and NASA did risk assessments and they were approved by the relevant government regulator it seems fine?

Maybe they were, maybe they weren't.  There's a rumour doing the rounds that someone at NASA might have got someone in the US Government to explain to our new rookie President Albanese just how important these launches were and that permits flowed rather quickly after that.. Of course, that's just a rumour and we'll never know for sure.  :-X
« Last Edit: 07/05/2022 05:42 am by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #45 on: 07/06/2022 11:59 pm »
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NASA’s second ELA launch finally blasts off

NASA’s second mission with Equatorial Launch Australia surprisingly blasted off on Wednesday night after two previous delays.

ELA’s chief executive Michael Jones said, “Tonight we were delighted to achieve another successful launch which further strengthens the capabilities of our team and of the Arnhem Space Centre. 

“We look forward to our third launch on 12 July and then onwards to the future of the Arnhem Space Centre and the Australian space industry.”

https://www.spaceconnectonline.com.au/launch/5512-nasa-s-second-ela-launch-finally-blasts-off
« Last Edit: 07/06/2022 11:59 pm by CameronD »
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #46 on: 07/07/2022 01:09 am »
From ABC News reports, it seems the best ELA thought to do in this particular case was get the local radio station to broadcast a warning in the local language beforehand.. as if everyone in the Territory just sits around listening to the radio all day long.  "Look out! The sky is falling!" ::)
From the ABC article upthread.
"The NLC understands that ELA is engaging with Indigenous ranger groups across East Arnhem Land as part of the safety and retrieval processes in place for each launch," a spokesman said.
ELA said it has consulted with around 26 Northern Territory landowner groups and had also worked with local Indigenous broadcaster Yolngu Radio to get the message out in Yolngu Matha languages.
The company also said it had met with Mr Guyula to discuss his safety concerns before he spoke to the ABC.


Maybe they were, maybe they weren't.  There's a rumour doing the rounds that someone at NASA might have got someone in the US Government to explain to our new rookie President Albanese just how important these launches were and that permits flowed rather quickly after that.. Of course, that's just a rumour and we'll never know for sure.  :-X
Remember upthread when you were surprised that shipping containers were at the ELA launch site from Wallops? Everything would have been on the boat from Virginia before the federal election even took place. If you watched the feed from launch 1 you would have heard multiple SRP staff stating they had been working on this for roughly 10 years. You would have also heard ELA's CEO stating that they had filed for their launch license 2 years ago.

But sure, let's just make up some rumours at Albo's expense and pin this on him.

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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #47 on: 07/08/2022 04:53 am »
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NASA's second-ever commercial launch in Australia has taken off from the Northern Territory, with the US aeronautical giant hailing the moment as a landmark for science in the southern hemisphere.

A week of drizzling rain, wind and a 52-hour delay failed to stop the suborbital sounding rocket launch, which fired from the Arnhem Space Centre near Nhulunbuy around 11:15pm ACST on Wednesday.

With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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Re: Equatorial Launch Australia
« Reply #48 on: 07/14/2022 07:25 am »
The third and final NASA mission, DEUCE, was launched earlier this week on July 11, the third launch in 15 days from the Arnhem Space Centre. The NASA DEUCE mission will help astronomers measure an unstudied part of Centauri A and B’s ultraviolet light spectrum, helping them model stars and understand their effects on planetary atmospheres.

Michael Jones, Executive Chairman and Group CEO of ELA, said the successful launch was a great finale to the NASA campaign that began on June 26.

“We are really proud to have achieved a very rare feat – three successful launches in just 15 days. Even more so given the challenging wind conditions,” Mr Jones said.

“We are also very pleased that the scientists involved with these launches are very happy with the results of the experiments,” Mr Jones added.

https://ela.space/ela-successfully-launches-3-rockets-in-15-days/
With sufficient thrust, pigs fly just fine - however, this is not necessarily a good idea. It is hard to be sure where they are
going to land, and it could be dangerous sitting under them as they fly overhead.

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