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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #120 on: 05/31/2017 12:19 am »
Apparently, there was a fuel leak during fueling operations. It generated a fire in the aft section that for some cause to determine, closed the propellant supply valves to the engine.

http://www.conae.gov.ar/index.php/espanol/2017/920-analisis-del-evento-en-la-prueba-del-vex5a

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #121 on: 01/24/2018 08:54 pm »

Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #122 on: 05/07/2018 05:47 pm »
Two important new about the progress in the space program of Argentina:

http://argentinaenelespacio.blogspot.com.ar/2018/03/avanzan-las-obras-de-la-estacion.html

They approve the satellite SabiaMar, very important mission scientific and the collaboration with Brazil  :D

http://argentinaenelespacio.blogspot.com/2018/04/aprueban-la-revision-critica-de-diseno.html
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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #123 on: 06/11/2018 09:23 pm »
http://latamsatelital.com/veng-presupuesto-2018/
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Current situation of the company

Veng SA carries out for the CONAE the development of the prototype of Launcher "Tronador II / III" included in the ISCUL Program (Satellite Injector for Light Useful Loads).

Said prototype is designed to have the capacity to place a satellite payload of between two hundred and fifty kilograms (250 kg) and one thousand kilograms (1000 Kg) in a polar orbit between six hundred kilometers (600 km) and seven hundred kilometers (700 km) high. ) of weight. To that end, liquid propellant engines are developed with ablative and regenerative combustion chamber and fuels and liquid comburents for these engines.

The structure of the launcher prototype, the avionics and the navigation, guidance and control systems of the launcher are also developed. For the purpose of qualifying the developed components, a flight prototype design and test plan is carried out, until arriving at a first prototype with satellite capacity, called "Tronador III Tecnológico", whose first test is scheduled for the end of 2019 .

The project Tronador II / III emerges as a continuity and a fusion of both projects, which allows to reuse to the maximum the engineering of the first in line with the achievement of the second, where increasing the burning times in the second stage can be achieved to inject more load useful in orbit with the same engineering. These two launcher models cover all the needs derived from the launches of future satellite missions developed with the concept of "segmented architecture", on the basis of which the satellite missions of the SARE series of CONAE are planned.

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #124 on: 10/08/2018 08:00 am »
Great work by CONAE and Argentinian  8)

Beautiful this video about the mission of Conae  :D sorry is in Spanish...




Web about the SAOCOM...

http://saocom.invap.com.ar/

https://twitter.com/CONAE_Oficial/status/1049182000165412869

This is one step for the the space era of the Argentinian  8)

https://spacenews.com/spacex-launches-argentine-satellite-posts-first-ground-landing-on-west-coast/

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #125 on: 10/09/2018 06:42 pm »
I have a very important news, of a very good source from Argentinian...The next year, when they finish the development of Saocom B, they go to release information about the launcher Tronador III, they priorize the development of this rocket, before the 2...they have the development very advanced, much more that what we can imagine  :o


https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tronador_III

If I a have other new information about this, I will share...look up any news about this, this could be a enormous accomplish from Conae and Argentina  8) ...and for the region...
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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #126 on: 05/15/2019 11:59 am »
A small startup, including CTA from La Plata University (part of the Tronador project), proposes  a small launcher. It would be hypergolic using hydrogen peroxide.
http://argentinaenelespacio.blogspot.com/2019/05/lia-aerospace-la-nueva-startup-local.html
http://argentinaenelespacio.blogspot.com/2019/05/el-cta-trabaja-en-el-desarrollo-de-un.html

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #127 on: 07/03/2020 04:23 pm »
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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #128 on: 07/15/2020 01:30 am »
https://twitter.com/CONAE_Oficial/status/1283175692029636608
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Workshop: Access to Space, from design to operation of a satellite launcher Wednesday 07/15 16:00  Invited by @mincytcordoba to the CyT Cycle in Space, we present about the challenges of the launching project Tronador II / II
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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #129 on: 07/16/2020 04:47 pm »
A smaller and cheaper vehicle is described, past one hour in video. Tronador 3 seems distant in the future

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #130 on: 11/15/2020 07:07 am »
http://www.andigital.com.ar/municipios/item/90938-planifican-la-reactivacion-del-polo-espacial-punta-indio

New government plans to increase CONAE's budget, maybe launcher(s) development will get some boost.

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #131 on: 01/26/2021 03:43 pm »
A private venture https://twitter.com/LiaAerospace to design an hydrogen peroxide/Lox powered small sat vehicle, has launched its first tiny engine test
https://argentinaenelespacio.blogspot.com/2021/01/lia-aerospace-lanzo-con-exito-el-vector.html

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #132 on: 11/22/2021 09:24 pm »
Finally, some news on Tronador II/III and VEx development:

Argentina resumes the project of the national launcher Tronador II/III [dated Nov. 4]

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Minister Daniel Filmus announced that in 2022 4,500 million pesos will be allocated to relaunch CONAE's Access to Space program, which includes the manufacture of vehicles to place satellites weighing up to 750 kilos in orbit, in addition to the associated auxiliary infrastructure and the launch bases.

Within the framework of the reactivation of strategic projects, the Ministry of Science, Technology and Innovation of the Nation (MINCyT) relaunched the Access to Space program carried out by the National Commission for Space Activities (CONAE), which includes the development of vehicles experimental VExs and Tronador II/III launchers, as well as associated auxiliary infrastructure and launch bases. There is a planned investment of about 4,500 million pesos in 2022.

The announcement was made at the facilities of CONAE's Punta Indio Space Center (CEPI), located in the town of Pipinas, province of Buenos Aires, by Minister Daniel Filmus and CONAE's executive and technical director, Raúl Kulichevsky.

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The Tronador II/III is a two-stage launcher, approximately 28 meters long and 2.5 meters in diameter, with a thrust of about 120 tons at takeoff. "The development of this project will allow Argentina to complete the domain of space technology necessary to put its own satellites, designed and manufactured in the country, into orbit, and to be able to offer this service to other countries in the region and the world," Kulichevsky said. Currently only 10 countries dominate the entire space cycle.

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In the first stage, the reactivation of the Access to Space program will allow progress in the development of the experimental vehicles VEx 5 and VEx 6, to consolidate the necessary technologies required by the Tronador II/III projects, such as avionics, propulsion systems and structures. It is estimated that the first flight of these prototypes could take place at the end of 2023. Then the Tronador II-A is planned to be carried out with the aim of satellite payloads of up to 250 kilos at 600 kilometers high. With the following launchers, the aim is to increase the payload to reach 500 kilos with the Tronador II-B, and 750 kilos with the Tronador III.

With regard to launch bases, it is planned to recover the necessary infrastructure for the development, manufacture, integration, testing and subsequent launch of experimental VEx vehicles from the facilities of La Capetina, which are part of CEPI. In the future, it is also planned to develop the Manuel Belgrano Space Center (CEMB), in the south of the province of Buenos Aires, where the Launch Center for the VEx 6 vehicle and the Tronador II/III launchers will be located.

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #133 on: 11/22/2021 10:34 pm »
This is around 45 million USD, in layman terms
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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #134 on: 03/28/2022 04:52 pm »
Salo said:
"Tronador II - Late 2023"
From a Chief minister report to the Senate: in 2023 second semester  a Vex 5b would be tested. Unlike the failed Vex 5a which had an hypergolic second stage this time it would use kerolox on both stages.

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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #135 on: 03/28/2022 04:53 pm »
Salo said:
"Tronador II - Late 2023"
From a Chief minister report to the Senate: in 2023 second semester  a Vex 5b would be tested. Unlike the failed Vex 5a which had an hypergolic second stage this time it would use kerolox on both stages.

Kerolox? Well, that's a nice and welcomed upgrade!
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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #137 on: 06/28/2022 10:54 pm »
https://twitter.com/AgenciaTelam/status/1539583479465361409

Test of swirl injector to check its viability!
Officially, the idea is to launch the first limited prototype (called Tronador II-70) end of 2023. Capability of this prototype is 70kg to a low polar orbit (probably around 400km).
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Re: Argentina's SLV development
« Reply #138 on: 06/29/2022 06:21 am »
Tweet translation:

"🛰 The development of the Tronador launcher advances, which will allow satellites to be put into orbit from Argentine soil

🚀 At the Teófilo Tabanera Space Center in @CONAE_Oficial a test was carried out that is part of a new series of engines"
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