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FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« on: 03/07/2023 10:09 pm »
The NASA FY 2024 Budget is coming out on Thursday (March 9th).

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1633214882236764160

Quote from: Marcia Smith
The President's budget will be released on Thursday. NASA tells us they will have a press release that day, but no briefing until Monday. Further details to be announced soon.

The NASA Budget is usually available at this link:
https://www.nasa.gov/news/budget/index.html

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #1 on: 03/09/2023 12:36 am »
Quote from: Marcia Smith
NASA sets coverage for FY2024 budget release. Top-line numbers will be out tomorrow (Thurs). Nelson "State of NASA" speech tmrw at 3:00 pm ET. 

Full budget out and NASA media telecon 1:00 pm ET on Monday.

https://twitter.com/SpcPlcyOnline/status/1633635951875354625

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #2 on: 03/09/2023 04:48 pm »
https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1633875834951057408

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The White House's FY24 budget request proposes $27.2B for NASA. (p. 125 of PDF)
https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/budget_fy2024.pdf

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Highlights:
• $500M increase for Artemis;
• $949M for Mars Sample Return;
• $2.5B for Earth science;
• $180M to start work on a deorbiting tug for the ISS
• $1.39B for space tech;
• $39M for orbital debris studies.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1633876590362005505

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Note that we won't get much else in the form of details on NASA's budget today, with the full release planned for Monday.

Copied from PDF:

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NATIONAL AERONAUTICS AND SPACE ADMINISTRATION

The National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) is responsible for sending astronauts and robotic missions to explore the solar system, advancing the Nation’s understanding of
the Earth and space, and developing new technologies and approaches to improve aviation
and space activities. The President’s 2024 Budget for NASA: supports human and robotic exploration of the Moon; invests in new technologies to improve the Nation’s space capabilities; and promotes cutting-edge Earth-observing satellites and green aviation research to help address pressing environmental challenges.

The Budget requests $27.2 billion in discretionary budget authority for 2024, a $1.8 billion or 7-percent increase from the 2023 enacted level.

The President’s 2024 Budget:

• Supports the Artemis Program’s Next Great Achievements. Following the successful completion of the Artemis I mission in 2022, the Budget provides $8.1 billion, a $500 million in- crease above the 2023 enacted level, for the Artemis program of lunar exploration. The Budget fully funds the rockets, crew vehicle, lunar landers, space suits, and other systems needed to fly astronauts around the Moon on the Artemis II mission and then land astronauts—in- cluding the first woman, first person of color, and first astronauts from another nation—on subsequent Artemis missions on the lunar surface as America begins development of a lunar outpost and aims toward the eventual exploration of Mars.

• Advances Robotic Exploration of Mars. The Budget continues U.S. leadership in Mars exploration by working in concert with other nations to develop Mars missions that would advance the search for potential life on other planets and pave the way for human explora- tion. Specifically, the Budget provides $949 million for the U.S.-led Mars Sample Return mission, which would return Martian rock and soil samples to earth. The Budget also sup- ports NASA’s contribution toward U.S. collaboration with the european Space Agency’s exoMars rover mission, which had previously been a cooperative mission with Russia.

• Accelerates Green Aviation Innovation. The Administration is committed to reach net- zero carbon emissions from the aviation sector no later than 2050. The Budget invests more than $500 million in a suite of technologies that are necessary to meet this goal, including hybrid-electric jet engines powerful enough to replace conventional engines on commercial airliners.

• Leverages Scientific Advances to Address Key Challenges. The Budget invests $2.5 billion in the earth Science program, including in the next generation of Landsat satellites and the earth System Observatory. These investments would deliver significant advancements in understanding of the earth and provide key information to guide efforts re- lated to tackling the climate crisis and mitigating natural hazards. The Budget also supports advancing new technologies that would measure and map some of the planet’s most complex processes, including climate change. In addition, the Budget invests in the development of applications and tools to support agriculture and wildland fire management, and to improve understanding of greenhouse gas sources and sinks.

• Expands the Reach of NASA Science, Technology, Engineering, and Mathematics (STEM) Programming. The Budget provides $158 million, $14 million above the 2023 enacted level, for NASA’s Office of STeM engagement to engage more students through enhanced partnerships and platforms. This includes expanding NASA-unique STeM op- portunities for students from underrepresented communities in STeM, including women and girls.

• Prepares for the International Space Station’s Safe Transition. The International Space Station will need to be safely deorbited at the end of its operational life as the United States transitions to lower-cost commercial space stations. Rather than relying on Russian systems that may not be able to accomplish this task, the Budget provides $180 million to initiate development of a new space tug that may also be useful for other space transportation missions.

• Invests in Technology Advancements. The Budget increases funding for NASA’s Space Technology portfolio to $1.39 billion, a $190 million increase above the 2023 enacted level. This investment would support the research and development of new technologies that would increase U.S. capabilities for space exploration missions and create jobs through the growth of commercial space companies that would both use and provide new technologies.

• Addresses the Growing Problem of Orbital Debris. NASA has a key role to play in better understanding the worsening debris environment in orbit around the planet and supporting the development of innovative approaches to help protect satellites and reduce the risk posed by space debris. The Budget provides $39 million to better understand the environment and explore approaches to mitigate the hazard.
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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #3 on: 03/09/2023 05:35 pm »
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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #4 on: 03/09/2023 09:06 pm »
2023 ‘State of NASA’ Address from Administrator Bill Nelson:



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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #6 on: 03/10/2023 01:49 am »
Here is NASA's portion of the budget (attached):
https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/fy24_nasa_chapter_final_03_09_2023.pdf

That PDF states that the proposed NASA budget is a 7% increase over the 2023 enacted level. Inflation has been about 7% over the past year so that's a basically flat budget.

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #7 on: 03/13/2023 12:38 pm »
Quote from: NASA's press release
The President’s full budget proposal for NASA and supporting information will post online about 10 a.m. EDT, Monday, March 13, and the agency will hold a follow-up media call. [...]

On Monday, NASA’s Associate Administrator Bob Cabana and Chief Financial Officer Margaret Vo Schaus will host a media teleconference at 1 p.m., to discuss the Biden-Harris Administration’s fiscal year 2024 funding request for the agency. Senior leaders from each of NASA’s mission directorates also will be available during the call.

Audio from the budget briefing will stream live on NASA’s website.

https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-sets-coverage-for-annual-address-budget-media-call-in-march

https://www.nasa.gov/nasalive

https://www.nasa.gov/news/budget/index.html
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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #9 on: 03/13/2023 01:24 pm »
twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1635283787813892100

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Interesting chart in NASA budget documents this morning that show Artemis 3 still launching in 2025, but Artemis 4 pushed back to 2028.

https://twitter.com/jeff_foust/status/1635285086164889601

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A few other data points from the budget:
• $1.88B for Human Landing System
• $228M for commercial LEO development
• $210M for NEO Surveyor for a 2028 launch

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #10 on: 03/13/2023 02:09 pm »
Is that the usual strategy to show an outcome which Congress will not like in order to get more funding ?

This gap is quite ugly.

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #11 on: 03/13/2023 02:39 pm »
Is that the usual strategy to show an outcome which Congress will not like in order to get more funding ?

This gap is quite ugly.
Some of it is a barganing position. Since the president wants some things congress doesn't want (and visa versa), he doesn't ask for everything they want. That way, he gets something in exchange for letting congress get something too.

Its no different from how the house and senate bargain with each other either.
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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #12 on: 03/13/2023 03:42 pm »
NASA’s Fiscal Year 2024 Budget Proposal:


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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #13 on: 03/13/2023 03:47 pm »
Is that the usual strategy to show an outcome which Congress will not like in order to get more funding ?

This gap is quite ugly.
Some of it is a barganing position. Since the president wants some things congress doesn't want (and visa versa), he doesn't ask for everything they want. That way, he gets something in exchange for letting congress get something too.

Its no different from how the house and senate bargain with each other either.

The President's budget request is the starting point, Congress will usually adjust it. The starting point makes a difference because Congress will occasionally fund programs at their requested level.   

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #14 on: 03/13/2023 04:03 pm »
NASA’s Fiscal Year 2024 Budget Proposal:



The teleconference has started. Here are the slides:

https://www.nasa.gov/sites/default/files/atoms/files/fiscal_year_2024_nasa_budget_summary.pdf

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #15 on: 03/13/2023 04:25 pm »
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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #16 on: 03/14/2023 12:54 pm »
NASA planning to spend up to $1 billion on space station deorbit module:
https://spacenews.com/nasa-planning-to-spend-up-to-1-billion-on-space-station-deorbit-module/

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #17 on: 03/16/2023 02:54 pm »
https://twitter.com/wehavemeco/status/1636374860724305926

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🎙️ @CaseyDreier of @exploreplanets joins me on the podcast to talk about the NASA FY2024 budget request. Always a great conversation with Casey, and this time there is a ton to discuss around Artemis, ISS, and planetary science. Have a listen!

https://mainenginecutoff.com/podcast/242

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #18 on: 03/19/2023 12:45 pm »
https://twitter.com/wehavemeco/status/1636374860724305926

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🎙️ @CaseyDreier of @exploreplanets joins me on the podcast to talk about the NASA FY2024 budget request. Always a great conversation with Casey, and this time there is a ton to discuss around Artemis, ISS, and planetary science. Have a listen!

https://mainenginecutoff.com/podcast/242

I completely disagree with their take on the Commercial LEO Destinations program. Right now, there is a UAE astronaut on ISS that paid Axiom for their 6 month stay which proves that there is indeed a market for LEO outside of NASA.

Phil McAlister estimates that Commercial LEO Destinations services will cost about $1B per year (including commercial crew and cargo). Incidentally, the Commercial LEO Destinations program was fully funded in FY23 (at $224.3M).

Having said that, I wish that NASA would pursue artificial gravity more aggressively. It's only a stretch goal under the Commercial LEO Destinations program.

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Re: FY 2024 NASA Budget (March 9th)
« Reply #19 on: 03/20/2023 01:10 pm »
https://twitter.com/wehavemeco/status/1636374860724305926

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🎙️ @CaseyDreier of @exploreplanets joins me on the podcast to talk about the NASA FY2024 budget request. Always a great conversation with Casey, and this time there is a ton to discuss around Artemis, ISS, and planetary science. Have a listen!

https://mainenginecutoff.com/podcast/242

I completely disagree with their take on the Commercial LEO Destinations program. Right now, there is a UAE astronaut on ISS that paid Axiom for their 6 month stay which proves that there is indeed a market for LEO outside of NASA.

Phil McAlister estimates that Commercial LEO Destinations services will cost about $1B per year (including commercial crew and cargo). Incidentally, the Commercial LEO Destinations program was fully funded in FY23 (at $224.3M).

Having said that, I wish that NASA would pursue artificial gravity more aggressively. It's only a stretch goal under the Commercial LEO Destinations program.

One person is not a significant market. If there is a big enough market, NASA shouldn't need to spend billions of dollars on it

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