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Hello everybody,
as advertised, here is the brief overview of gluing the
vertical struts
to the three remained frames with
1 mm overhang
at the top of the frames as I had described for the first frame.
The gluing of the
Screw Jacks
I'll do tomorrow in daylight.
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Hello everybody,
and thus to the trickiest part of the exercise, gluing the
Screw Jacks
onto the fragile
frames
, where everything can still go wrong,
but must not go wrong!
That's why I thought back and forth beforehand as to how the frames could be fixed best and as gently as possible in order to be able to glue the Screw Jacks as centrally and precisely as possible to the front edge.
Finally, I've fixed the frame with narrow
tape strips
on a steel ruler, the lower struts with
2 mm tape
, and the upper short ends with
1 mm tape
, which resulted in a sufficiently tight fit.
To try it on, I've clamped the ruler in a small vice and carefully laid down a spindle on it, which was quite a balancing act, but has held up.
In order to be able to handle better when gluing the parts, I first held the ruler in my hand and dabbed the front ends of the struts lightly with
Revell adhesive
and put the ruler down for a moment. Then I grabbed the protective tube with the flat tweezers, picked up the ruler with the other hand and carefully placed the spindle with the tiny
Angle holders
on the adhesive points of the struts, which worked well, so that I could breathe a sigh of relief.
Then I inspected the vertical seat of the spindle from all sides and corrected it slightly,
and let all dry for a while.
After I carefully removed the tape strips, I was glad that everything worked out and that my plan had worked again perfectly.
Gluing the remaining three
Screw Jacks
will become a bit easier already, I hope so.
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Hello everybody,
and with that go right to the next
Screw Jack
, which was indeed easier to do, since the method of gluing has now proven itself.
After the tape strips were carefully removed, the seat of the spindle was slightly adjusted,
and finally found as perfect,
which already half of the
Screw Jacks
was done.
And so it was worth going for a test on the
Port Side
of the
Payload Canister
.
This was followed immediately by the third
Screw Jack
,
and finally still the fourth one too.
And I think they look pretty much alike, right?
And together with the two
Door Actuator Pneumatic Drives
, another small but very laborious and tricky milestone has been reached,
what more than only satisfies me.
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I'd love to see some pictures of the current state of everything you've put together so far. This has been an amazing project to follow.
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Thanks for your compliment, my friend.
I can understand you, but that is and remains a pious wish, which unfortunately I cannot fulfill.
This would require me to stop my current work on the
Payload Canister
and go through my entire report and clear out my closets, which I don't have time for, which you'll understand, especially since the project has become far too complex by now.
Then you have already to scroll through all the
118 pages
yourself to get an overview.
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02/16/2023 05:55 pm »
Hello everybody,
but in addition to the
Screw Jacks
and
Door Actuator Drives
there are a few more details on the side walls that should not be missing.
And those are the
Ladders
right next to the
Access Platforms
and these
Outriggers (folded)
at the front end of the canister.
Source: NASA (STS-135)
The outriggers can be folded or folded out as needed for the transfer of the canister to the
Payload Changeout Room (PCR)
of the
RSS
. In the extended position, the rotatably mounted
PCR Guide Shoes
slide in vertical guides on both sides of the
RSS Payload Bay
when the canister is hoisted and thus to keep the shuttle's payload as stable as possible.
Source: NASA (STS-129)
Here the guide shoes dip into the guide rails.
Source: NASA (STS-129)
On this image I determined the dimensions of the ladders.
Source: NASA (STS-132)
For these ladders, I got already these
PE Ladders
from
ABER (1:200-05)
a long time ago,
which are offered there as
Ships Ladders (wide)
in three different widths, of which the middle
width (3,5 mm)
is well suited for my scale (1:160).
The
Plastruct Styrene Ladders
would have the required width, but they are 'rough wrought-iron work' that one can safely forget.
After cutting out from the PE circuit board, the narrow side bars still have to be bent by 90°,
for which a special
Hold and Fold tool
is needed.
And this ladder size fits well into the mould,
which I can also use for the ladders on the
Forward Bulkhead
of the canister.
Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (STS-9, Ares67)
And as one can see, there are still also some
Railings
there that can be folded or folded out as well.
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Hello everybody,
but I want to start with the
Outriggers
, which, similar to the
Door Actuators
on the canister doors, consist of foldable linkages, at the end of them the
PCR Guide Shoes
are mounted, which can be seen in the folded state in these two images.
Then I've also marked the two
Lifting Trunnions
for hoisting the canister, which are also still to do.
Source: NASA (STS-135)
For hoisting the canister into the
RSS Payload bay
, the outrigger is folded out by locking the lower
Support strut
into the upper bracket marked here,
Source: NASA (STS-135)
which can also be seen in these drawings.
Source: Library of Congress, HAER FL-8-11-I
Source: Library of Congress, HAER FL-8-11-I
But before assembling the linkages, I've looked for
NASA photos
, on which one can see the structure of the outrigger better, and actually have made a find at
STS-135
, which is extensively photo-documented as the last Shuttle mission.
Source: NASA (STS-135)
On it one can see the structure of the
triangular support frame
, which is rotatably mounted at the base in brackets on the side wall and connected to the guide shoe at the other end. The swiveling support strut is rotatably mounted on the shoe's holder, which can be locked in the folded state or, as shown here, in the unfolded state, as required.
Source: NASA (STS-135)
And to this size the outrigger must now be shrunk.
For the
PCR Guide Shoe
I used an
Evergreen Strip (0,5 mm x 1,5 mm)
, which was sanded down to a width
1,3 mm
.
For the struts I will use an
Evergreen rod (Ø 0,4 mm)
, I have provisionally laid out them here.
So much for today.
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Reply #2347 on:
02/24/2023 06:30 pm »
Hello everybody,
after the provisional fitting of the
Outrigger
, the parts were now glued together, first the two
diagonal struts
with the
holding plate
, which later is glued with the
Guide shoe
.
To do this, the two diagonal struts were fixed with tape, after what the
upper cross strut
and to it the lateral
hinge plates
could be glued,
which are articulated in the
holders
on the side wall for folding and unfolding the outrigger.
And here at the latest, compared to the drawing, I noticed that the
Guide shoes (8 mm)
were a bit too long, which was confirmed by subsequent measurements using photos, what had also to be corrected, similar like the
holding plate
, which was also a bit too big.
The strips for the
holdings (0,13 mm x 0,5 mm x 1 mm)
have a small overhang so that they can still be held with tweezers when gluing them to both sides of the hinge strips.
Here first the gluing of the inner parts of the holders, the overhang parts of which were carefully separated with a razor blade.
And here the gluing of the outer strips,
whose overhangs were also separated.
Then the strut linkage was glued to the shortened guide shoe.
The length of the slanting support strut was determined using this small template to
7,5 mm
.
As one can see on this image, all mountings sit on small
base plates (0,13 mm x 1 mm x 1,5 mm)
, which should not be missing either,
Source: NASA (STS-135)
but had to be fixed again for gluing.
The slanting support strut is also locked in both positions in a holder that I glued together with the base plate at the foot of the strut.
And then I've tried the outrigger on the canister only without the support strut,
which looks pretty well.
All of these fragile structures are only glued onto the canister at the end so that they cannot be damaged beforehand.
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Reply #2348 on:
02/26/2023 04:48 pm »
Hello everybody,
today I took on the
Lifting Trunnions
for lifting and transporting the canister, which are located at different heights on both sides at its bulkheads.
Source: NASA (STS-135)
As one can see in this image, the Lifting trunnions consist of three parts, a cylindrical
base
on which the
trunnion
with a slightly smaller diameter sits, and an outer
cover plate
,
Source: NASA (STS-125)
which is probably screwed to the trunnion to secure it after the crane's
Lifting plate
has been attached.
Source: NASA (STS-135)
And these are the prepared parts, the white
base (Ø 1,2 mm x 0,5 mm)
, the gray
trunnion (Ø 1 mm x 0,5 mm)
and the black
cover plate (Ø 1,2 mm x 0,25 mm)
that I made with my
Punch & Die Set
.
The tiny parts were glued with
UHU CA
in the tried and tested locking mechanism between the rulers.
This was followed by the gluing of the lifting trunnions, first on the
Port Side
of the canister,
and then on the
Starboard Side
.
In the meantime, the
vertical support strut
has also been glued at the
Outrigger
,
and here the complete outrigger has been positioned on the
Port side
for a test, which looks quite neat.
Now all that's missing is the outrigger for the
Starboard Side
, which will now follow.
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Magnificent. Your thread is what keeps me coming back to the site. it even almost gets me motivated to build/rebuild some of my kits/damaged models, but not yet...sigh.
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Thanks Mike for your nice compliment,
which makes me very happy, especially waking you up from your hibernation.
I'm excited to see what you'll choose, let's go!
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Reply #2351 on:
03/02/2023 05:43 pm »
Hello everybody,
for the sake of completeness, here is the lower
Support strut bracket
of the
Outrigger
required when folded,
and here its later position on the
Port Side
of the canister.
Although my size comparison using the
Eurocent
is always very impressive,
the comparison of the outrigger with a
Can Crew worker
shows the actual relation in the
model scale 1:160
, which is otherwise difficult to imagine.
Even more impressive are original photos like this one, on which workers dismantle the
Guide Shoe
on an
Outrigger
.
On it one can even see the
handle
for locking the support strut in the various positions, which I do without because with
Ø 0,1 mm x 0,5 mm x 1 mm
it would really be too tiny.
Source: NASA (Jim Grossmann)
But then I still have to correct my assumption from the last post about the screwing of the
Cover disk on the Lifting trunnion
.
I came across this because I remembered a picture my friend
James MacLaren
took of the
Payload Canister
just before it was attached to the lifting block of the 90-ton Payload Hoist with its
Spreader beam
, contained in his documentation
Space Shuttle Launch Complex 39-B Construction Photos - Page 9
wherefore I've asked him regarding the red-lettered parts.
In addition to the parts that are already known, you can see the Spreader beam with the lifting plates and on the left in the image one of the two
Guide Rails
for guiding the
Guide Shoes
when lifting the canister up to the
Payload Changeout Room (PCR)
.
Source: James MacLaren
And if anyone is familiar with these things, then it's him who worked 5 years during building the
Launch Pad 39-B
and knows the
RSS
inside out. He also has a large pool of detailed
NASA drawings
, which he is linking to in his documentation and explains down to the last detail.
Thereupon he has sent me this drawing, on which he highlighted the
Lifting Plate
, which has a
slotted hole
with two different-sized openings, which is a simple but ingenious solution for accommodating the
Lifting trunnion
.
Source: James MacLaren
This holds the spreader-beam in such a position to allow the lifting plates hanging from the lifting cables to be passed through the larger opening over the lifting trunnions and the beam then can carefully be lifted, fixing the trunnions in the smaller opening of the plates.
This special lifting plate I had also noticed in a photo sent by my friend
Richard Chamberlain
, who was a member of a
Can Crew
, cause I still haven't tinkered with these details more closely that time.
The
Canister hoisting system
and its entire handling is so complex and demanding,
but at the same time very interesting, so I can commend all interested guys highly the
Page 52: A Lighter Moment in a Heavy Place, and a Deep Dive into the Canister Hoisting System
in James MacLaren's documentation
The Construction of Space Shuttle Launch Complex 39-B
.
With that you always have to keep in mind that the canister is
approx. 20 m long
and with its
weight of approx. 64 t
represents an enormous free hanging load, and hoisting it to the
PCR
is a high sensitive matter that is not harmless and must therefore be secured by various vertical and horizontal
Tag Lines
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Reply #2352 on:
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Hello together,
the second
Outrigger
is waiting for me, let's go.
The twin should at least look similar to its brother.
Only the
Vertical Support Strut
has to point to the other side, which I took into account in good time.
The way they both are standing there now, I think I've done quite well with them.
And here is the test fitting on the
Starboard Side
.
Next I'll probably turn to these
Railings
on the
Forward Bulkhead
of the canister,
Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (STS-9, Ares67)
which can also be folded in or out.
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Reply #2353 on:
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Hello everybody,
first of all, I determined the dimensions of the eight
railings (1:160)
from the photo, which again was tiresome measuring and converting measures.
In this the opposite
Railings G-1 to G-4
have identical dimensions, which makes the work a little easier.
Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (STS-9, Ares67)
Using this I've copied appropriately scaled rectangles into this
NASA drawing (1:160)
,
which I've printed out and can use as a template for scratching the railings.
Now I'm going to look for the appropriate
round rods (Ø 0,45 mm)
, and then I can start with the stressful cutting of the railing rods.
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Hello everybody,
first of all, here is a photo from the early years of the
Shuttle Program (1980)
, on which the erected
Railings
can be seen, so that nothing could happen to the Can Crew guys when installing the
Payload
into the
Payload Changeout Room (PCR)
.
Source: Library of Congress, HAER FL-8-11-I
And with this to the two lower
Railings G-1
, whose six individual parts I've cut out of
round rods (Ø 0,45 mm)
. First of all, I thought about how best to assemble the railing and in which order I should glue the individual struts together.
Doing it I then came to the division in the true-to-scale
sketch
with the corresponding lengths of the rods and decided on the variant with three
Vertical struts (2, 3, 4)
decided,
which ensures a better stability than the variant with two
Cross struts (1)
.
Since the vertical struts have the same
length (5,5 mm)
on all railings, I have cut
18 sticks
for all eight railings using the
Cutter chisel
at the ruler stop.
This was followed by the gradual
gluing of the struts
building the railing, for which I again used my tried and tested
Clamping technique
with the steel angle and the rulers. Due to the minimal contact surfaces between the struts, the adhesive application must be dosed carefully in order to avoid unsightly bonding with the base.
In order to get halfway to the same distances between the struts, I have prepared suitable spacers, which have proven to be very helpful.
And this is what the first finished railing looks like,
which fits perfectly on the template
and also goes well with the canister.
I wanted to take advantage of the fresh routine and immediately scratched the second
Railing (G-1)
,
which has worked just as well.
However, all railings still need on their feet similar
Holders
as those on the
Outriggers
so that they can be erected and swung in as required.
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Hello everybody,
but since I want to stay in the exercise, I'll scratch the remaining
Railings
first. Then it's the turn of the holder brackets.
Since the side struts are already cut off, these are the prepared struts for the two
Railings G-2
,
which were glued in the same manner.
And now the remaining
Railings G-3 and G-4
can follow.
Once you know how to do it and the dimensions are known, it's nearly child's play.
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03/12/2023 10:41 pm »
Hello everybody,
and thus for gluing the remaining two
Handrail pairs
, again using the proven method,
here first
Handrails G-3
,
and here
Handrails G-4
.
And here is the obligatory test fitting atop the template that I like.
As already mentioned, however, all
Handrails
on the feet also need similar
mounts
like the
Outriggers
, so that they can be erected or folded up as required.
And these are
18 pieces
, which should become similarly tiny.
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Reply #2357 on:
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Hello everybody,
well, the smaller the
details
to be scratched, the closer you have to look to see their shape and being able to determine the needed dimensions.
As you can see in this image section, the
Holder sockets
are in the form of small
U-profiles
in which the handrails are articulated.
Source: forum.nasaspaceflight.com (STS-9, Ares67)
Since this photo shows the canister used during
STS-9 (11/1983)
, it can be assumed that these
Handrails
and
Ladders
already existed at the time of
STS-6 (04/1983)
, but unfortunately I don't have any direct photos of it.
On the following photos of the Launch pad during
STS-6
it looks like this,
Source: retrospaceimages.com (STS-6)
because you can see the holder sockets at least with high magnification,
like here atop of the canister hanging in the
RSS-Payload Bay
,
and here during the exit from the
Vertical Processing Facility (VPF)
.
Source: retrospaceimages.com (STS-6)
In this drawing I've finally determined the dimensions of the
holders
.
Source: James MacLaren,
Page 52
And as you can plainly see, they are indeed tiny and, according to my previous idea, should each consist of
four parts
, which is why for
18 holders
only
72 snippets
would be needed.
Well that can still be going funny.
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Reply #2358 on:
03/17/2023 06:23 pm »
Hello everybody,
originally I had immediately thought of my narrowest
Evergreen profiles
,
but both the
H profiles
and the
U profiles
are
1,5 mm
wide, which would not match to the filigree handrails.
Then I've compared a
Channel profile (1,3 mm)
with my planned
four-part variant
(right), which, when using
strips (0,2 mm x 0,75 mm)
for the sides, is
approx. 0,9 mm
wide, which looks more pleasing in combination with the
round rod (Ø 0,45 mm)
of the handrail struts.
And if I would cut a
Styrene strip (0,13mm x 0,75mm)
for the sides, it should look even better and even closer to the size specified in the NASA drawing get there, what would mean a bit more effort.
So I've tried to scratch such a
Prototype
. But it's already not easy to cut a 0,75 mm wide strip, but which I managed to do.
I then placed this strip upright on the ruler angle, clamped the
Base strip (0,25 mm x 0,5 mm)
in front of it and then both strips were carefully glued by using
MEK
at their connecting line. Then I glued a small strip onto the other side,
and let it dry.
Then I've carefully cut off a 1 mm long part from this U-profile with a razor blade,
which actually succeeded with the precautionary placed
Jump away-Protection tape
(left).
Now only the small end piece had to be glued and trimmed,
whereupon the test fitting of the first
Mount
on the handrail could take place.
Although the feasibility of the
Prototype
could be shown in principle, I have in mind a smarter solution for scratching of the remaining
17 mounts
, by what the effort should let be reduce.
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Hello everybody, is there anybody in there?
And thus to this new variant for the production of the
Handrail brackets
that I have been thinking about.
The idea behind it is actually simple and based on the production of such a
U profile
with a greater length, from which I then carefully cut off small 1 mm long pieces and close on one side.
Thought and done, gluing the
side strips (0,13 mm x 0,75 mm)
to the
base strip (0,25 mm x 0,5 mm)
took place again in the proven manner by fixing between the rulers.
Such a
Steel ruler
is also ideal for aligning the U profile, which happens to be
0,5 mm thick
as on commission.
Then the U profile was glued to the
end strip (0,13 mm x 0,8 mm)
, which I deliberately left a little longer and fixed flat.
However, since my steel angle for the vertical alignment of the U profile offers much more support, I then chose this arrangement, which made the gluing much easier.
For final fixation while the
Revell glue
was drying, the deck ruler was moved to the stop,
whereby the U profile was glued perfectly.
For the separation of the end strip I've thought about this special fixation on a small
steel block
,
after which the razor blade was used.
To complete the bracket, only the
end piece (1 mm)
had to be separated from the U profile,
for what I needed five rulers for fixation,
which I arranged in such a way that I could now use the razor blade to score at least the upper edge of the two side strips on the
1 mm line
, which only has a minimal
overhang (0,25 mm)
,
wherefore I had to take a close look myself with the
headset magnifying glass
over my glasses, assuming a steady hand.
For the final separation of the mount I only had to be able to recognize these fine incisions,
which is perhaps just visible here on this macro shot at an enlargement of
3553x2665
,
therefore here again somewhat larger with marking.
When making a cut with a razor blade, the
Jump away Protection tape
is important in addition to a steady hand, which again has proven itself!
The advantage of this variant is that I can now use the remaining U profile to make another
nine mounts
in the same way,
wherewith the half would be done already.
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