Also looking at live video of Enterprise, her pods are missing, so am I safe to assume the test one that is being fitted as in the pictures in here on Endeavour are borrowed from Enterprise? And of so, will they be put back on Enterprise or will she be left sitting on display looking out of place with her 2 OMS Pods missing
The California Science Center will host 50 social media guests as part of a celebration of the Space Shuttle Orbiter Endeavour from 10:00 a.m. until 11:00 a.m. on October 11, 2011.The private event will feature a title transfer-signing of Endeavour from NASA to the California Science Center Foundation, along with an appearance from NASA’s STS-134 crew and Commander Mark Kelly.
Heartbreaking. And more lack of "her" when referencing Endeavour ("Oh but it's politically correct to call them an it" - yeah right, frak off you bore).NASA TRANSFERS ENDEAVOUR TITLE TO CALIFORNIA SCIENCE CENTERWASHINGTON -- NASA transferred title and ownership of space shuttle Endeavour to the California Science Center (CSC) during a ceremony Tuesday at the center in Los Angeles. The transfer is the first step toward CSC receiving Endeavour in the latter half of 2012. "NASA is pleased to share this wonderful orbiter with the California Science Center to help inspire a new generation of explorers," NASA Administrator Charles Bolden said. "The next chapter in space exploration begins now, and we're standing on the shoulders of the men and women of the shuttle program to reach farther into the solar system." Bolden announced April 12 that CSC was one of four institutions nationwide to receive a shuttle. After display preparation and post-mission work are complete, NASA will deliver Endeavour on the 747 shuttle carrier aircraft to Los Angeles International Airport. From there, the shuttle will be driven through the streets of Los Angeles to its destination at the Science Center in Exposition Park. "Endeavour now will begin its new mission to stimulate an interest in science and engineering in future generations at the science center," California Science Center President Jeffrey Rudolph said.
I wonder if they will use the OTS, it's was originally built for this sort if move. They can keep the gear up until it's unloaded at the museum.
Quote from: gordo on 10/13/2011 06:42 amI wonder if they will use the OTS, it's was originally built for this sort if move. They can keep the gear up until it's unloaded at the museum.The OTS's forward bi-pod will only work with an ET bipod fitting and the ET fitting wouln't work with the SCA's bipod. That's why they couldn't use it when they would move the orbiters to the SLF before mounting them on the SCA for flights to Palmdale.Plus, they would have to ship the thing all the way over there.
Quote from: JayP on 10/14/2011 02:01 amQuote from: gordo on 10/13/2011 06:42 amI wonder if they will use the OTS, it's was originally built for this sort if move. They can keep the gear up until it's unloaded at the museum.The OTS's forward bi-pod will only work with an ET bipod fitting and the ET fitting wouln't work with the SCA's bipod. That's why they couldn't use it when they would move the orbiters to the SLF before mounting them on the SCA for flights to Palmdale.Plus, they would have to ship the thing all the way over there.Here's a shot of Columbia on the OTS after she had been transported from OPF3 to the SLF to be mated with SCA for the ferry flight to Palmdale:
Quote from: DaveS on 10/14/2011 02:57 amQuote from: JayP on 10/14/2011 02:01 amQuote from: gordo on 10/13/2011 06:42 amI wonder if they will use the OTS, it's was originally built for this sort if move. They can keep the gear up until it's unloaded at the museum.The OTS's forward bi-pod will only work with an ET bipod fitting and the ET fitting wouln't work with the SCA's bipod. That's why they couldn't use it when they would move the orbiters to the SLF before mounting them on the SCA for flights to Palmdale.Plus, they would have to ship the thing all the way over there.Here's a shot of Columbia on the OTS after she had been transported from OPF3 to the SLF to be mated with SCA for the ferry flight to Palmdale:O.K. If you look closely you can see that the OTS's bipod is not in the configuration it is now. It now has 2 angled supports instead of the one verticle suppport. I don't know if the OTS can be converted back to this configuration anymore. Maybe one of the KSC guys can say.Most photos of orbiters being taken to and from the SLF for ferry flights in the 90's show it being towed on its landing gear and the gear being retacted after lifting in the MDD. There must have been some reason they did it that way.
According to California Science Center president Jeffrey Rudolph, the overland transporter they will use to move Endeavour from LAX will not be the same one pictured above (and used at KSC between OPFs and VAB) but rather the one used at Palmdale to move orbiters between Plant 42 and Dryden/Edwards AFB (it was also used once to move Enterprise at Vandenberg Air Force Base). The advantage (and necessity) of that specific transporter with its bar-mounted wheel configuration is that the back wheels can move separate from the front, to allow better maneuvering. The design also allows for lateral transitions, which may be necessary along the route. Space shuttle pink slip in hand, LA planning 'mother of all parades' for Endeavourhttp://www.collectspace.com/news/news-101411a.html
I hope one of them will decide to display one of the remaining orbiters (probably Enterprise) on a retired SCA.
Quote from: Ronsmytheiii on 10/15/2011 03:18 amI hope one of them will decide to display one of the remaining orbiters (probably Enterprise) on a retired SCA.According to NASA, at least one, if not both SCA are to be transferred to the SOFIA program, in part to provide spare parts.
Robert,What I enjoyed most from your article "http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-101411a.html" is the final intent, for shuttle Endeavour, will be to display it in it's full vertical launch configuration with SRB's and External tank attached. That will be quite some building to house this. I can't wait.Tony
Quote from: catdlr on 10/14/2011 06:20 pmRobert,What I enjoyed most from your article "http://www.collectspace.com/news/news-101411a.html" is the final intent, for shuttle Endeavour, will be to display it in it's full vertical launch configuration with SRB's and External tank attached. That will be quite some building to house this. I can't wait.Tony Wow. That would be a sight!What about seismic activity? The vertical stack has a resonance. Can that be damped? Don't want pieces of the building falling on her, either. I see engineering challenges to this on top of fundraising.