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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #120 on: 05/30/2017 05:25 pm »

 I guess I would have expected the pad perimeter to have been outside whatever distance debris could reasonably be expected to go in order to prevent this sort of thing.

Not really.  The pad perimeter fencing is added security and protection for critical pad systems, not for how far the rocket can throw debris.

 I'm not sure what good a "perimeter" would do anyhow, except to make access to the fire harder. And you're sure not going to pave a square mile of ground.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #121 on: 05/30/2017 05:34 pm »
From the update thread:
Worth mentioning that this will be a noteworthy launch not just for the first reuse of a Dragon, but this will also be the 100th launch off LC-39A (12 Saturn Vs, 82 Shuttles, 5 [soon to be 6] Falcons).

The Wikipedia has only 80 STS launches from pad A. I assume you have a more accurate number?

The below site has 83 Shuttle flights from Pad A.

http://spider.seds.org/shuttle/past.html

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Could this be a mathematical error? Is it already 100?

12 Saturn - 5 Falcon - 83 Shuttle = 100 total.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #122 on: 05/30/2017 05:37 pm »
From the update thread:
Worth mentioning that this will be a noteworthy launch not just for the first reuse of a Dragon, but this will also be the 100th launch off LC-39A (12 Saturn Vs, 82 Shuttles, 5 [soon to be 6] Falcons).

The Wikipedia has only 80 STS launches from pad A. I assume you have a more accurate number?

The below site has 83 Shuttle flights from Pad A.

http://spider.seds.org/shuttle/past.html

According to NASA, it's 12 Saturn Vs, 82 Shuttles, and 5 (to date) Falcons (source is NASA on this).

Wiki was definitely wrong, as their total for A and B equalled only 133 Shuttles.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #123 on: 05/30/2017 06:05 pm »


The below site has 83 Shuttle flights from Pad A.

http://spider.seds.org/shuttle/past.html

*edit

Could this be a mathematical error? Is it already 100?

12 Saturn - 5 Falcon - 83 Shuttle = 100 total.

That site is wrong. STS-116 was the final B launch but that site has A.

NASA is correct, this is 100.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #124 on: 05/31/2017 02:09 am »
When will SpaceX begin their webcast? 

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #125 on: 05/31/2017 02:57 am »
When will SpaceX begin their webcast?
Same as usual. About 15-20 minutes before T-0.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #126 on: 05/31/2017 12:51 pm »
When will SpaceX begin their webcast?
Same as usual. About 15-20 minutes before T-0.
A bit less than 32 33 hours from now.

edit: Math with timezones is hard  ::)
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #127 on: 05/31/2017 02:11 pm »
When will SpaceX begin their webcast?
Same as usual. About 15-20 minutes before T-0.
A bit less than 32 33 hours from now.

edit: Math with timezones is hard  ::)

echo $(( $(date --date='2017-06-01 17:55' +'%s')-$(date +'%s')-15*60 )) / 3600|bc -l
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or if you are not EDT:

echo $(( $(date -u --date='2017-06-01 21:55' +'%s')-$(date +'%s')-15*60 )) / 3600|bc -l
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #128 on: 05/31/2017 02:27 pm »
They usually have it posted on their website by now, but so far nothing.  That is why I asked. 

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #129 on: 05/31/2017 03:03 pm »
From the update thread from jacqmans on 5/26/17 at 6:35 PM
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Commercial Crew Program Update

The NASA Commercial Crew Program has partnered with American industry on the next generation of spacecraft and rockets that will launch astronauts to and from the International Space Station. At 1 p.m. in the Press Site, Commercial Crew Program management will provide an update to media on the progress being made to resume human spaceflight in the United States.

Does anyone know if this is being broadcast and if so how/where to access it?

From the update thread from jackmans on 5/19/17 at 10:09 AM
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NASA will host a media teleconference at 10 a.m. EDT Friday, May 26, to discuss select science investigations launching on the next SpaceX commercial resupply flight to the International Space Station.

This audio only science briefing last Friday was for the media (those guys have all the fun!)

Have looked around the web but couldn't find it.  Can anyone help?

Thank you jacqmans -- twice.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #130 on: 05/31/2017 03:46 pm »
From the update thread from jacqmans on 5/26/17 at 6:35 PM
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L-1 Day

Commercial Crew Program Update

The NASA Commercial Crew Program has partnered with American industry on the next generation of spacecraft and rockets that will launch astronauts to and from the International Space Station. At 1 p.m. in the Press Site, Commercial Crew Program management will provide an update to media on the progress being made to resume human spaceflight in the United States.

Does anyone know if this is being broadcast and if so how/where to access it?

From the update thread from jackmans on 5/19/17 at 10:09 AM
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NASA will host a media teleconference at 10 a.m. EDT Friday, May 26, to discuss select science investigations launching on the next SpaceX commercial resupply flight to the International Space Station.

This audio only science briefing last Friday was for the media (those guys have all the fun!)

Have looked around the web but couldn't find it.  Can anyone help?

Thank you jacqmans -- twice.


It was at 9am.  It was not broadcast.  Coverage in this thread: http://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=36966.55
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #131 on: 05/31/2017 06:54 pm »
Falcon 9 is at the pad.  Preps in work to go vertical.

When does the late load happen (e.g. the mousetronauts)? After all, it is still more than 24 hours before the planned launch.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #132 on: 05/31/2017 06:58 pm »
Falcon 9 is at the pad.  Preps in work to go vertical.

When does the late load happen (e.g. the mousetronauts)? After all, it is still more than 24 hours before the planned launch.

They can do late load horizontal at the pad.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #133 on: 05/31/2017 07:26 pm »
What 24 hours?  Am I slipping into senility, or is this launch scheduled for less than 2.5 hours from now?

EDIT:  To quote Emily Litella (SNL, 40 years ago), "Never mind!"
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #134 on: 05/31/2017 07:59 pm »
Falcon 9 is at the pad.  Preps in work to go vertical.

When does the late load happen (e.g. the mousetronauts)? After all, it is still more than 24 hours before the planned launch.

They can do late load horizontal at the pad.
I know. I read your post as "going vertical is imminent" and was wondering when the mice would board.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #135 on: 05/31/2017 08:03 pm »
What 24 hours?  Am I slipping into senility, or is this launch scheduled for less than 2.5 hours from now?

EDIT:  To quote Emily Litella (SNL, 40 years ago), "Never mind!"
If the Falcon is still horizontal 2.5 hours before launch, then we know something slipped. 😎
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #136 on: 05/31/2017 08:43 pm »
Falcon 9 is at the pad.  Preps in work to go vertical.

When does the late load happen (e.g. the mousetronauts)? After all, it is still more than 24 hours before the planned launch.

They can do late load horizontal at the pad.
I know. I read your post as "going vertical is imminent" and was wondering when the mice would board.

Oh, no.  My bad.  I just meant "all preps are in work to be able to go vertical."

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #137 on: 06/01/2017 02:18 am »
SpaceX looks like it is continuing its testing of extended loiter time for upper stages.  Compare 2nd stage disposal areas of previous CRS missions vs. CRS-11 (from Raul's maps).  Looks like it is being done at least 1 orbit later.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #138 on: 06/01/2017 04:59 am »
Falcon 9 is at the pad.  Preps in work to go vertical.

When does the late load happen (e.g. the mousetronauts)? After all, it is still more than 24 hours before the planned launch.

They can do late load horizontal at the pad.
I know. I read your post as "going vertical is imminent" and was wondering when the mice would board.

Oh, no.  My bad.  I just meant "all preps are in work to be able to go vertical."

AFAIK, mice fly on even numbered CRS/SpX flights.  That means no mice on this one.

Edit:  That is incorrect.   See below and here
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : CRS-11 : June 3, 2017 : DISCUSSION
« Reply #139 on: 06/01/2017 05:27 am »


Falcon 9 is at the pad.  Preps in work to go vertical.

When does the late load happen (e.g. the mousetronauts)? After all, it is still more than 24 hours before the planned launch.

They can do late load horizontal at the pad.
I know. I read your post as "going vertical is imminent" and was wondering when the mice would board.

Oh, no.  My bad.  I just meant "all preps are in work to be able to go vertical."

AFAIK, mice fly on even numbered CRS/SpX flights.  That means no mice on this one.

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The Dragon SpX-11 spacecraft will launch with two Animal Transporters supporting the fifth Rodent Research Experiment...
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