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PAKSAT-MM1
« on: 03/23/2018 09:13 pm »
On March 22, 2018, Suparco (owner of the Paksat satellites) and CGWIC signed a deal to purchase the "PAKSAT-MM1" geostationary satellite.

Articles are there :
- https://tribune.com.pk/story/1666876/1-pakistan-acquires-another-communication-satellite/
- https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/03/22/pakistan-acquires-communication-satellite/

At first I thought it was a future satellite, but the 2 articles I found say it already arrived at its 38.2° East slot on February 27 or 28, 2018. It's quite strange...

Then I thought at Asiasat 4 that was at 38.0° East on March 21, 2018, but I'm not sure Asiasat belongs to CGWIC.

In that case, which CGWIC satellite can it be ?

Thanks !

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #1 on: 03/23/2018 10:44 pm »
In the Asiasat 2017 annual results report they say "A lease for the full payload of Asiasat 4 was secured following successful migration of customers from AsiaSat 4 to AsiaSat 9,"
Asiasat 4 did move into 38.0E on Feb 27 which matches the report.
Perhaps Asiasat worked with CGWIC to sell the lease (misreported as a sale) to Paksat

edit by mod: changed "least" for "lease" in the first line
« Last Edit: 04/04/2018 07:32 am by input~2 »
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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #2 on: 03/24/2018 12:21 am »
In the Asiasat 2017 annual results report they say "A least for the full payload of Asiasat 4 was secured following successful migration of customers from AsiaSat 4 to AsiaSat 9,"
Asiasat 4 did move into 38.0E on Feb 27 which matches the report.
Perhaps Asiasat worked with CGWIC to sell the lease (misreported as a sale) to Paksat


I agree, AsiSat-4 matches the report.

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #3 on: 03/24/2018 01:06 am »
On March 22, 2018, Suparco (owner of the Paksat satellites) and CGWIC signed a deal to purchase the "PAKSAT-MM1" geostationary satellite.

Articles are there :
- https://tribune.com.pk/story/1666876/1-pakistan-acquires-another-communication-satellite/
- https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2018/03/22/pakistan-acquires-communication-satellite/

At first I thought it was a future satellite, but the 2 articles I found say it already arrived at its 38.2° East slot on February 27 or 28, 2018. It's quite strange...

Then I thought at Asiasat 4 that was at 38.0° East on March 21, 2018, but I'm not sure Asiasat belongs to CGWIC.

In that case, which CGWIC satellite can it be ?

Thanks !
CGWIC is the middle man these days.

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #4 on: 03/24/2018 08:20 pm »
Thanks !  :)

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #5 on: 03/26/2018 01:59 am »
The reports were mistaken. This was a contract signing ceremony for a 50 - 50 joint development of the  Pakistan Multi-Mission Satellite. No satellite has yet been developed or launched. Check the video in the link! http://radio.gov.pk/23-03-2018/pakistan-china-sign-contract-of-pakistan-multi-mission-satellite-paksat-mm1

In other news PRSS-1 & PakTes-1A will now not be dual launched till June - September time.

« Last Edit: 03/26/2018 02:04 am by Spacepak »

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #6 on: 03/26/2018 12:42 pm »
The reports were mistaken. This was a contract signing ceremony for a 50 - 50 joint development of the  Pakistan Multi-Mission Satellite. No satellite has yet been developed or launched. Check the video in the link! http://radio.gov.pk/23-03-2018/pakistan-china-sign-contract-of-pakistan-multi-mission-satellite-paksat-mm1

In other news PRSS-1 & PakTes-1A will now not be dual launched till June - September time.



Can you provide more details about the launch schedule for PRSS-1 and details about the PakTes-1A? Thank you!

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #7 on: 03/26/2018 04:37 pm »
A tweet from CGWIC today presents the contract signed as "for a gap filler satellite for the future PakSat Multi-Mission Satellite".

So Asiasat 4 seems not to be the real Paksat MM-1 but a gap filler.

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #8 on: 03/26/2018 10:30 pm »
The reports were mistaken. This was a contract signing ceremony for a 50 - 50 joint development of the  Pakistan Multi-Mission Satellite. No satellite has yet been developed or launched. Check the video in the link! http://radio.gov.pk/23-03-2018/pakistan-china-sign-contract-of-pakistan-multi-mission-satellite-paksat-mm1

In other news PRSS-1 & PakTes-1A will now not be dual launched till June - September time.



Can you provide more details about the launch schedule for PRSS-1 and details about the PakTes-1A? Thank you!

The tentative launch schedule for PRSS-1 is for June 2018, but obviously there *could* be delays so it will be around June to September. I can't be anymore specific about this.

Pakistan Technology Evaluation Satellite or PAKTES-1A is a 300 kg low to medium E/O remote sensing satellite indigenously developed by Suparco but with much of the payload subcontracted to South Africa's 'Space Advisory Company'. You can find more info here

https://www.scribd.com/document/306131770/Print

There will be a PakTes-1B satellite but this is in the very early planning stages.

In addition there is a Pakistan National Student Satellite PNSS-1:


PNSS-1 Platform Specifications
▪ Communication : UHF and VHF
▪ Structure : Cuboid, Body mounted Solar Panels
▪ Envelop : 500 (mm) x 500 (mm) x 500 (mm)
▪ Orbit : LEO (500 km)
▪ Attitude Control : 3-axis stabilized
▪ Power : > 50 Watts
▪ CDHS : Distributed Architecture CAN Bus
- Weight 50 kg


PNSS-1 Payload Specifications
▪ High Resolution Camera
• Swath Width
29 km- 25 km
• Spectral Range
450nm-750nm
(Visible)
▪ Low Resolution Camera
• Swath Width
66 km- 49 km
• Spectral Range
400nm-1000nm
(Visible)
▪ Lightening Detector Unit.
• Detects the variations caused by the Lightening Effect

To be launched 2019 - 2020 (probably as a piggy back).
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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #9 on: 04/01/2018 04:03 pm »
A tweet from CGWIC today presents the contract signed as "for a gap filler satellite for the future PakSat Multi-Mission Satellite".

So Asiasat 4 seems not to be the real Paksat MM-1 but a gap filler.
Well according to the official news agency of Pakistan (APP):
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This communication satellite PakSat- MMI has arrived at Pakistan’s geostationary orbital location of 38.2 East on Feb 27

so, if it's not a misprint, Paksat-MMI (I as interim) seems to be the new name for Asiasat-4, while the future PakSat Multi-Mission Satellite will be known as Paksat-MM1(1 as one) ???

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #10 on: 04/03/2018 12:18 pm »
From a Suparco presentation back in 2009:

Satellite Development Program:
GEO Satellites – Paksat Series
Paksat-1 (Extension)
Paksat-1R
Paksat-MM1
Paksat-MM2

Paksat-2

LEO Satellites
PRSS-O1
PRSS-S1
PRSS-O2
PRSS-S2
PRSS-O3
PRSS-S3
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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #11 on: 04/06/2018 08:41 am »
So another possibility is as follows:
Asiasat-4, gap filler at 38.2°E, has been renamed Paksat-MM1
The future satellite for this slot still to be ordered will be known as Paksat-MM2

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #12 on: 04/07/2018 06:14 pm »
Thanks for the scrutiny. What you suggest makes the most sense to me (for now)!

Today, a transponder test was reported at 38°E (3921 H) that can only originate from AsiaSat 4, because PakSat-1R does not have such transponder frequency.
So they actually intend to use AsiaSat 4 (PakSat-MM1), not just passively reserve the slot.

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Re: PAKSAT-MM1
« Reply #13 on: 04/08/2018 05:16 pm »
Thanks for the scrutiny. What you suggest makes the most sense to me (for now)!

Today, a transponder test was reported at 38°E (3921 H) that can only originate from AsiaSat 4, because PakSat-1R does not have such transponder frequency.
So they actually intend to use AsiaSat 4 (PakSat-MM1), not just passively reserve the slot.
Thanks for the info! I bet they're also testing in the band 11.7-12.2 GHz RHCP

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