Author Topic: SpaceX F9 : Starlink group 10-10 : CCSFS SLC-40 : 15 October 2024 (06:10 UTC) (Read 16911 times)

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #20 on:** 09/30/2024 12:24 pm »

Now targeting October 4 per this cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice, expected launch window 08:05-12:05 UTC.

Quote from: NGA

292208Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1189/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   040805Z TO 041235Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   050743Z TO 051213Z, 060721Z TO 061151Z, 
   070659Z TO 071129Z, 080637Z 081107Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2.  CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1171/24.
3.  CANCEL THIS MSG 081207Z OCT 24.

Over lapping with ULA launch window of 0600-0900L ?

So far there are no NGA notices for ULA Cert-2.

Now there is a Rocket Launching notice out for ULA Cert-2, for October 4 to October 10. If ULA is ready to go, it seems likely that their launch would take priority over a Starlink launch.

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #21 on:** 09/30/2024 04:31 pm »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/30/2024 12:24 pm

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/29/2024 11:23 pm
Quote from: bman549 on 09/29/2024 10:35 pm
Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/29/2024 10:19 pm
Now targeting October 4 per this cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice, expected launch window 08:05-12:05 UTC.

Quote from: NGA
292208Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1189/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   040805Z TO 041235Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   050743Z TO 051213Z, 060721Z TO 061151Z, 
   070659Z TO 071129Z, 080637Z 081107Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2.  CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1171/24.
3.  CANCEL THIS MSG 081207Z OCT 24.
Over lapping with ULA launch window of 0600-0900L ?
So far there are no NGA notices for ULA Cert-2.
Now there is a Rocket Launching notice out for ULA Cert-2, for October 4 to October 10. If ULA is ready to go, it seems likely that their launch would take priority over a Starlink launch.

...and with Vulcan rolled out this launch is now NET October 5: https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp

SPACEX STARLINK 10-10, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL PRIMARY: 10/05 0743Z-1213Z BACKUP: 10/06 0721Z-1251Z 10/07 0659Z-1129Z 10/08 0637Z-1107Z

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #22 on:** 09/30/2024 11:51 pm »

Quote from: Galactic Penguin SST on 09/30/2024 04:31 pm

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/30/2024 12:24 pm
Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/29/2024 11:23 pm
Quote from: bman549 on 09/29/2024 10:35 pm
Quote from: Ken the Bin on 09/29/2024 10:19 pm
Now targeting October 4 per this cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice, expected launch window 08:05-12:05 UTC.

Quote from: NGA
292208Z SEP 24
NAVAREA IV 1189/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   040805Z TO 041235Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   050743Z TO 051213Z, 060721Z TO 061151Z, 
   070659Z TO 071129Z, 080637Z 081107Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2.  CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1171/24.
3.  CANCEL THIS MSG 081207Z OCT 24.
Over lapping with ULA launch window of 0600-0900L ?
So far there are no NGA notices for ULA Cert-2.
Now there is a Rocket Launching notice out for ULA Cert-2, for October 4 to October 10. If ULA is ready to go, it seems likely that their launch would take priority over a Starlink launch.
...and with Vulcan rolled out this launch is now NET October 5: https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp

SPACEX STARLINK 10-10, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL PRIMARY: 10/05 0743Z-1213Z BACKUP: 10/06 0721Z-1251Z 10/07 0659Z-1129Z 10/08 0637Z-1107Z

Hmm, it now shows the launch back on October 4 but with October 5 skipped...

SPACEX STARLINK 10-10, CAPE CANAVERAL SFS, FL PRIMARY: 10/04 0805Z-1235Z BACKUP: 10/06 0721Z-1213Z 10/07 0659Z-1151Z 10/08 0637Z-1107Z

Also this NOTAM is brand new and also shows NET October 4...

F3600/24 NOTAMR F3573/24 Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5129S13135E999 A) YMMM B) 2410041018 C) 2410081333 D) 2410041018 TO 2410041501 2410050956 TO 2410051439 2410060934 TO 2410061417 2410070912 TO 2410071355 2410080850 TO 2410081333 E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN OF SPACEX STARLINK 10-10 STAGE 2 WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS: 4802S 15955E 4711S 15859E 5117S 11527E 3952S 08205E 4136S 08009E 5337S 11428E 4927S 15948E TO BEGINNING F) SFC G) UNL

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #23 on:** 10/01/2024 09:35 pm »

The NGA Rocket Launching notice is canceled TBD.

Quote from: NGA

011947Z OCT 24
NAVAREA IV 1198/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1189/24, 1197/24
AND THIS MSG, OPERATIONS POSTPONED.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #24 on:** 10/01/2024 09:44 pm »

The above cancellation also cancels this NGA Rocket Launching notice which came out shortly before the cancellation.

Quote from: NGA

011855Z OCT 24
NAVAREA IV 1197/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   100552Z TO 101022Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   110530Z TO 111000Z, 120508Z TO 120938Z,
   130446Z TO 130916Z, 140424Z TO 140854Z,
   150402Z TO 150832Z, 160339Z TO 160809Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 160909Z OCT 24.

This is not a cancel-and-replace, but the Next Spaceflight website has it applied to this Starlink Group 10-10 launch. I don't know if that's correct or not, but it doesn't really matter because it's already canceled.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #25 on:** 10/03/2024 09:38 pm »

If I recall correctly, NASA LSP launches and all USA-based crewed launches (not commercial cargo to ISS) require ~48 hours spacing between launches using the same model (ex. Falcon 9/Falcon Heavy) to allow post-flight launch vehicle performance analysis.

So, no Falcon 9 launches within 48 hours before Falcon Heavy/Europa Clipper.

See the Starlink 6-22 launch with respect to Psyche last year.

Seeking correction or clarification.

Hypothetical SLC-40 schedule:

Oct 7 14:52 Hera expendable

(Oct 10 16:31 Europa Clipper LC-39A, expendable)

NET Oct 11 04:14 Starlink 6-61 ASDS

NET Oct 16 03:39 Starlink 10-10 ASDS

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #26 on:** 10/06/2024 03:23 am »

NGA Rocket Launching notice.

Quote from: NGA

030012Z OCT 24
NAVAREA IV 1219/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   110654Z TO 111124Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   120632Z TO 121102Z, 130610Z TO 131040Z,
   140548Z TO 141018Z, 150526Z TO 150956Z,
   160503Z TO 160933Z AND 170441Z TO 170911Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 171011Z OCT 24.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #27 on:** 10/07/2024 09:46 pm »

Postponed TBD per this NGA cancellation notice.

Quote from: NGA

072041Z OCT 24
NAVAREA IV 1227/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1219/24 AND THIS MSG,
OPERATIONS POSTPONED.

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #28 on:** 10/09/2024 01:11 am »

New NOTAMs has appeared with a NET early October 14 launch date. I take that as the indication of 10-10 flying before 8-19 now.

F3723/24 NOTAMR F3646/24 Q) YMMM/QWMLW/IV/BO/W/000/999/5129S13135E999 A) YMMM B) 2410140801 C) 2410201031 D) 2410140801 TO 2410141244 2410150739 TO 2410151222 2410160716 TO 2410161159 2410170654 TO 2410171137 2410180632 TO 2410181115 2410190610 TO 2410191053 2410200548 TO 2410201031 E) ROCKET LAUNCH WILL TAKE PLACE FLW RECEIVED FROM GOVERNMENT OF UNITED STATES OF AMERICA: HAZARDOUS OPS WILL BE CONDUCTED FOR ATMOSPHERIC RE-ENTRY AND SPLASHDOWN OF SPACEX STARLINK 10-10 STAGE 2 WI THE FOLLOWING AREAS: 4802S 15955E 4711S 15859E 5117S 11527E 3952S 08205E 4136S 08009E 5337S 11428E 4927S 15948E TO BEGINNING F) SFC G) UNL

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #29 on:** 10/09/2024 04:12 pm »

NGA Rocket Launch notice. Expected four-hour primary launch window 05:48-09:48 UTC.

Quote from: NGA

090934Z OCT 24
NAVAREA IV 1245/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   140548Z TO 141018Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   150526Z TO 150956Z, 160503Z TO 160933Z
   AND 170441Z TO 170911Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.66N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 171011Z OCT 24.//

Galactic Penguin SST · « **Reply #30 on:** 10/12/2024 03:40 am »

With Europa Clipper's launch not till the 14th, this means this launch will be NET 15th, as also shown on Ben Cooper's site: https://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html.

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A Falcon 9 will launch a Starlink batch from pad 40 on October 15 at 1:28-4:28 a.m. EDT. (sic - see NGA Rocket Launch notice above for the correct times)

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #31 on:** 10/12/2024 03:45 am »

Information posted on the CelesTrak website says October 14. However with the launch window included, that's an indication that the information did not come from SpaceX (despite it saying "provided by SpaceX").

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

Quote from: CelesTrak

Starlink G10-10 Pre-Launch
Derived from a pre-launch Starlink-G10-10 state vector, provided by SpaceX. SupGP data is provided for the entire stack, as well as one for a single satellite.
Launch: 2024-10-14 05:48:00 UTC.
Deploy: 2024-10-14 06:51:53.140 UTC.
Launch window: 2024-10-14 05:48:00 UTC to 2024-10-14 09:48:00 UTC.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #32 on:** 10/12/2024 12:02 pm »

CelesTrak now has real information, and it's still for October 14: 2024-10-14 06:02:00 UTC.

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1845010490474496142

Quote from: T.S. Kelso

CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the @Starlink Group 10-10 launch from Cape Canaveral on 2024-10-14 at 06:02:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g10-10. Deployment of 23 satellites is at 07:05:53.140 UTC. Data for 8 backup launch opportunities also provided: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.

https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/

Launch: 2024-10-14 06:02:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 07:05:53.140 UTC.
Launch: 2024-10-14 06:20:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 07:23:53.140 UTC.
Launch: 2024-10-14 07:04:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 08:07:53.140 UTC.
Launch: 2024-10-14 07:36:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 08:39:53.140 UTC.
Launch: 2024-10-14 07:58:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 09:01:53.140 UTC.
Launch: 2024-10-14 08:40:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 09:43:53.140 UTC.
Launch: 2024-10-14 09:12:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 10:15:53.140 UTC.
Launch: 2024-10-14 09:26:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 10:29:53.140 UTC.
Launch: 2024-10-14 09:44:00 UTC. Deploy: 2024-10-14 10:47:53.140 UTC.

Edit: Added the images.

zubenelgenubi · « **Reply #33 on:** 10/12/2024 04:28 pm »

Quote from: Ken the Bin on 10/12/2024 12:02 pm

CelesTrak now has real information, and it's still for October 14: 2024-10-14 06:02:00 UTC.

I suspect, even with FAA clearance to launch, I suspect that this launch will be delayed to the October 15 launch window, as otherwise this launch would need to be ~48 hours before Europa Clipper so as to complete launch vehicle performance analysis for NASA.

But, I'm willing to be proven wrong.

realnouns · « **Reply #34 on:** 10/12/2024 09:36 pm »

Quote from: realnouns on 10/12/2024 09:32 pm

Quote from: realnouns on 09/20/2024 03:45 pm
Doug returned to PC on Sep 20 @ 7:00am ET

Missed Doug’s Hera departure

Doug returned to PC on Oct 12 @ 9:36am ET

Doug departed PC on Oct 12 @ 12:05pm ET

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #35 on:** 10/13/2024 04:32 pm »

L-1 launch weather forecast is 95% GO but moderate risk for booster recovery

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #36 on:** 10/13/2024 07:30 pm »

https://twitter.com/spaceoffshore/status/1845547215416394116

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Following Hurricane Milton avoidance near Cuba, A Shortfall of Gravitas droneship has sailed north to support the Starlink 10-10 mission. Doug will also support this launch.

FutureSpaceTourist · « **Reply #37 on:** 10/13/2024 09:43 pm »

From the Europa Clipper pre-launch press conference:

This Starlink launch will move to Tuesday morning, as NASA still require time after any Falcon launch to check data prior to a NASA launch. Europe Clipper obviously takes priority and so this launch is in the process of being moved to Tuesday.

gongora · « **Reply #38 on:** 10/13/2024 10:40 pm »

https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1845589571674980542

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UPDATE #1: CelesTrak has new pre-launch SupGP data for the @Starlink Group 10-10 launch from Cape Canaveral on 2024-10-15 at 06:26:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g10-10. Deployment of 23 satellites is at 07:29:53.140 UTC. Data for 4 backup launch opportunities is also provided: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/.

Ken the Bin · « **Reply #39 on:** 10/13/2024 11:24 pm »

A cancel-and-replace NGA Rocket Launching notice postponing to October 15 (expected launch window 05:26-09:26 UTC).

Quote from: NGA

132238Z OCT 24
NAVAREA IV 1271/24(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING 
   150526Z TO 150956Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   160503Z TO 160933Z, 170441Z TO 170911Z,
   180419Z TO 180849Z, 190357Z TO 190827Z,
   200335Z TO 200805Z AND 210313Z TO 210743Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-38.57N 080-37.38W, 28-50.00N 080-19.00W,
      28-47.00N 080-15.00W, 28-35.00N 080-28.00W,
      28-31.70N 080-33.60W.
   B. 31-48.00N 076-56.00W, 32-30.00N 076-24.00W,
      33-09.00N 075-30.00W, 33-24.00N 075-00.00W,
      33-19.00N 074-51.00W, 32-36.00N 075-02.00W,
      32-09.00N 075-45.00W, 31-44.00N 076-50.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA IV 1245/24.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 210843Z OCT 24.