Author Topic: NSF thread for Questions not addressed elsewhere in this Section (Read 241818 times)

ugordan · « **Reply #60 on:** 08/30/2021 03:43 pm »

Quote from: JCopernicus on 08/30/2021 03:23 pm

FWIW, I've noticed that clearing your cache/cookies for the twitter site will reset the annoying pop ups.

Only for a while, though.

joek · « **Reply #61 on:** 08/30/2021 04:34 pm »

FWIW... With the exception of very few sites (NSF and twitter *not* included), I operate in incognito or private mode the vast majority of the time, and rarely have incognito browser instance open for more than a few hours at a time. Have never had the problems others seem to have viewing these twitter's. May be inconvenient for some depending on your habits, but works for me as that is my standard MO.

joek · « **Reply #62 on:** 08/30/2021 04:47 pm »

Quote from: Mark S on 08/30/2021 01:36 pm

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Some people really don't understand why this happens, and I think the slow photo backfill and/or non-visibility reflects poorly on NSF. It also makes the page jump around while you are trying to read or look closely at something in the thread.

Happens on many sites and can be annoying... especially when you click on something only to discover it moved during the page update and I end up going somewhere I didn't want. Would you prefer synchronous loads and wait until all of them complete before displaying page? Think most would say no. How does this "reflect poorly on NSF"?

OTV Booster · « **Reply #63 on:** 08/30/2021 06:02 pm »

NSF is NSF and Twitter is Twitter. One a labor of love and one sees its users as its product. Can you guess which is which?

What Twitter has done is a universal improvement. Following a linked tweet from my phone now limits me to three replies and the opening tweet of related threads. When was the last time you saw anything past the third reply that went beyond vapid? Twitter has improved its overall signal to noise ratio from .0175% to .189%. If they keep it up they will climb to the S/N of a loud fart in a bar.

IF you have a Twitter account, and IF you are interested, Elon Tweets COPIED here would be appreciated, but not crucial. Maybe write a weekly compilation. The rest of it? Blahh! We've enough people posting here directly that we don't miss much, except Nomadd.

Ban Twitter imbeds? Not worth the effort. Quote Twitter Inbeds? That's your decision. The more you inbed the lower the quality of this site. The update thread has gotten so noisy it's getting to be not worth the effort to read. Any twitter crap stuck in there usually shows up in the discussion thread again and again and again and again.

Maybe a compromise. A second update thread for Twitter only. In 10 years its content will have evaporated and Twitter can take it's true place in the historical record.

alugobi · « **Reply #64 on:** 08/30/2021 06:47 pm »

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The update thread has gotten so noisy it's getting to be not worth the effort to read.

Agreed. It's turned into a twitter aggregator.

I wait for the nightly video and look at that. Also, at the end of her day, Mary puts up her stills to complement the video.

Most of the rest of it, meh.

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Any twitter crap stuck in there usually shows up in the discussion thread again and again and again and again.

Yeah, that. Crossposting is also lowering the quality.

joek · « **Reply #65 on:** 08/30/2021 06:59 pm »

Quote from: OTV Booster on 08/30/2021 06:02 pm

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Maybe a compromise. A second update thread for Twitter only. In 10 years its content will have evaporated and Twitter can take it's true place in the historical record.

We kinda-sorta have (had?) that with the Starship Epoch Ecosystem Tweet History - UPDATES,. But I don't pay much attention to it; just go directly to the appropriate threads.

Life in the Internet age. If information posted on site X is subject to restrictions and potentially ephemeral, that's their business and not much NSF can do about it. If some folks want to record those tweets for posterity, more power to them.

That said, the complaints about Twitter access by NSF users is simply whining IMO. (E.g., I have no problem, what is yours?) If NSF users want to record those tweet's for posterity, again more power to them; there are several options.

joek · « **Reply #66 on:** 08/30/2021 07:31 pm »

Quote from: alugobi on 08/30/2021 06:47 pm

Agreed. It's turned into a twitter aggregator.
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Yeah, that. Crossposting is also lowering the quality.

Agree; seeing the same post in multiple threads and replication of twitter posts is annoying. Then again, would generally prefer over- rather than under-communication. Load is on the consumer-reader to sift through, but reduces load on NSF mods-whoever to consolidate-curate.

That said, as guests on this forum (and my go-to site) , think we need to be considerate of our hosts and what we ask of them.

Mark S · « **Reply #67 on:** 08/30/2021 11:09 pm »

Quote from: joek on 08/30/2021 04:47 pm

Quote from: Mark S on 08/30/2021 01:36 pm
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Some people really don't understand why this happens, and I think the slow photo backfill and/or non-visibility reflects poorly on NSF. It also makes the page jump around while you are trying to read or look closely at something in the thread.

Happens on many sites and can be annoying... especially when you click on something only to discover it moved during the page update and I end up going somewhere I didn't want. Would you prefer synchronous loads and wait until all of them complete before displaying page? Think most would say no. How does this "reflect poorly on NSF"?

By "reflects poorly", I mean it makes NSF not look so great when the pages are slow to display and the page jumps around under your mouse. One solution would be for the forum content server to generate HTML with the size of the tweet that will be fetched by the javascript and include it in the img tag. I'm no HTML or javascript slinger, but I know you can specify the size of an image so the browser can size the page before all the content is retrieved. That would stop the jumping around and the user would see the blanks to be filled in, and maybe not sit there wondering what's going on.

D_Dom · « **Reply #68 on:** 08/31/2021 04:01 pm »

It is the internet folks. Personally I choose to ignore anything twitter related. If some nonsense is going on that attracts my attention as a moderator on this site my habit is wholesale deletions, admittedly I am not very active as a moderator so it isn't much of a problem. Spending more time on a small screen these days I fat finger trigger twitter links more often than I like, that is totally operator error and I wouldn't think of imposing my preferred solution on the community as a whole. That would not be excellent.

Chris Bergin · « **Reply #69 on:** 08/31/2021 04:06 pm »

Quote from: 492 on 08/30/2021 12:23 pm

It should be a simple straight forward thing to get the original twitter poster to agree to allow the pics on nasaspaceflight.com.

That is a non-starter and we're not going to be hosting other people's content. Embedding is the only allowed way so this thread is somewhat of a non-starter. I'm sure Mark will look at the loading side of things. But that's a website side thing, not a "twitter issues" thread thing. Also, this is an issue for a handful of people, so - like spacecraft - making changes could cause a problem for everyone else.

holmstar · « **Reply #70 on:** 12/09/2021 05:19 pm »

Would it be possible to create a combined starship/superheavy update thread (ie, if the updates for a specific test or test article or whatever get split into another thread, the combined thread / view would have the updates from all update threads?

I've had more than one occasion when I've been following the main update thread and see posts about an upcoming test, and then no test updates after that. But like a week later see in the news that a test did occur as scheduled and then have to go dig through the threads to find the "test updates" thread for that test. Looking at the documentation for the current forum software it seems this might not be possible, but figured I would ask.

Alternatively, could the updates threads be grouped into a sub-forum?, such as: Forums »SpaceX Vehicles and Missions »SpaceX Super Heavy/Starship (BFR/BFS) - Earth to Deep Space » Updates » Thread name

That would make them a lot easier to follow / find new ones when they get created.

Secondly, and this is mostly a quibble and I could just set him to ignore I suppose, but the rendering videos provided by Owe, while certainly cool and certainly a lot of effort goes into them, aren't really updates and I don't think they belong there. They are his educated speculation on what will be the case, not what is actually definitive reality.

Herb Schaltegger · « **Reply #71 on:** 01/22/2022 02:17 am »

Is there a way to block a user's In Box from receiving private messages from specific forum members? Or better yet, block that user's posts from being visible to me, them from contacting me, etc? If not, is this a feature that could be added to or enabled with the forum software?

Life's too short to deal with berating PM's from what is probably a sock puppet account for a now-banned former member ...

Lar · « **Reply #72 on:** 01/22/2022 03:04 am »

Yes.

Via the web interface, select profile, then modify then buddy/ignore list and add whoever it is...

DHartley · « **Reply #73 on:** 04/12/2022 11:54 am »

Hi- I used my email address as my user name years ago when I joined the forum. I haven't posted anything yet, but I would like to change that username to something more generic. I've gone to the manage profile section of the Profile area, but changing the user name doesn't seem to be an option. Nothing happens when you try to edit text there.
Am I missing something here?

wjbarnett · « **Reply #74 on:** 04/12/2022 01:15 pm »

Best course of action is to PM Chris Bergin, using the forum messaging feature. He's not reading every thread.

Eer · « **Reply #75 on:** 04/24/2022 06:47 pm »

I'll put this here, rather than the Videos section, as it's a suggestion, not an update ...

I found the posts saying when the weekly NSF Live program would be streamed helpful back when they were being provided (in Feb 2022, for example).

I don't know where else to look to see if today's stream is on, has been cancelled because of some other covered event or another, or is rescheduled. Maybe I'm just not finding it.

So - suggestion - say WEN you plan to do them. Thanks.

russianhalo117 · « **Reply #76 on:** 04/24/2022 10:00 pm »

Quote from: Eer on 04/24/2022 06:47 pm

I'll put this here, rather than the Videos section, as it's a suggestion, not an update ...

I found the posts saying when the weekly NSF Live program would be streamed helpful back when they were being provided (in Feb 2022, for example).

I don't know where else to look to see if today's stream is on, has been cancelled because of some other covered event or another, or is rescheduled. Maybe I'm just not finding it.

So - suggestion - say WEN you plan to do them. Thanks.

ChrisC · « **Reply #77 on:** 04/28/2022 07:21 pm »

Just check the NSF Youtube channel. They typically do them on Sundays starting at 3pm ET (used to be Saturdays) but sometimes skip if they had too many other live events in the last day or two.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSUu1lih2RifWkKtDOJdsBA

danneely · « **Reply #78 on:** 08/18/2022 12:13 pm »

Until some point earlier this week there was a thread in the SpaceX Facilities and Fleets section that had been using public records to keep track of SpaceX's buying up property in and around Boca Chica. The last time I was here the discussion had gotten somewhat heated, and I was half expecting it to get locked and restarted. But when I came back this morning it appears to have been deleted instead.

russianhalo117 · « **Reply #79 on:** 08/18/2022 02:27 pm »

Quote from: danneely on 08/18/2022 12:13 pm

Until some point earlier this week there was a thread in the SpaceX Facilities and Fleets section that had been using public records to keep track of SpaceX's buying up property in and around Boca Chica. The last time I was here the discussion had gotten somewhat heated, and I was half expecting it to get locked and restarted. But when I came back this morning it appears to have been deleted instead.

It was probably moved into moderator purgatory for a while or permanently.