Author Topic: Orion Hardware Processing (Read 209627 times)

JosephB · « **Reply #180 on:** 02/08/2011 10:33 pm »

That is quite the shipping container there. Pretty wide too.
I wonder if there are rules to drive only at night etc.?
It's not going by rail is it?

rjholling · « **Reply #181 on:** 02/08/2011 11:07 pm »

This may be an ignorant question but does anyone know if, from what is being worked on now, it could be possible to have a reusable orion that is land recoverable now that there are no longer the mass issues there were with Ares I? If so, how much work would have to be done to make the required changes?

nickyp · « **Reply #182 on:** 02/09/2011 11:25 am »

It could be possible, but Orion can't afford to be redesigned again.

Ronsmytheiii · « **Reply #183 on:** 02/10/2011 12:27 am »

webcam shots of mockup in the O&C highbay:

Patchouli · « **Reply #184 on:** 02/10/2011 05:02 am »

Quote from: nickyp on 02/09/2011 11:25 am

It could be possible, but Orion can't afford to be redesigned again.

It might be possible to refurbish them as just reusing the primary structure and avionics might cut reoccurring costs by half.
The real reusable content may not be known until the first one is flown and taken apart.

Downix · « **Reply #185 on:** 02/10/2011 05:16 am »

In our experience with Shuttle we've found that re-usable vehicles do not necessarily mean less expensive vehicles. Orion is a deep space craft, unlike other planned spacecraft like Dreamchaser and Dragon. What it will undergo is still pretty much unknown. Trying to balance that with re-use would drive the cost to support through the roof. Once we know, then we can explore re-use. But that's years in the future.

JosephB · « **Reply #186 on:** 02/10/2011 12:58 pm »

new update:
http://cxamdb.com/article.asp?artid=546

JosephB · « **Reply #187 on:** 02/10/2011 04:08 pm »

Quote from: JosephB on 02/08/2011 10:33 pm

That is quite the shipping container there. Pretty wide too.
I wonder if there are rules to drive only at night etc.?
It's not going by rail is it?

http://twitpic.com/3ybpts
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/products/Orion/

Another good one, click the download:
http://cxamdb.com/article.asp?artid=547

Patchouli · « **Reply #188 on:** 02/10/2011 06:10 pm »

Quote from: Downix on 02/10/2011 05:16 am

In our experience with Shuttle we've found that re-usable vehicles do not necessarily mean less expensive vehicles. Orion is a deep space craft, unlike other planned spacecraft like Dreamchaser and Dragon. What it will undergo is still pretty much unknown. Trying to balance that with re-use would drive the cost to support through the roof. Once we know, then we can explore re-use. But that's years in the future.

The shuttle was massive over kill for 90% of the missions it flew.

It would be incorrect to assume Dragon and Dreamchaser would suffer from the same issues.
Just by being a smaller vehicle the ground crew needed is going to be smaller.
A business jet does not need the same size ground crew a jumbo needs.

Downix · « **Reply #189 on:** 02/10/2011 06:15 pm »

Quote from: Patchouli on 02/10/2011 06:10 pm

Quote from: Downix on 02/10/2011 05:16 am
In our experience with Shuttle we've found that re-usable vehicles do not necessarily mean less expensive vehicles. Orion is a deep space craft, unlike other planned spacecraft like Dreamchaser and Dragon. What it will undergo is still pretty much unknown. Trying to balance that with re-use would drive the cost to support through the roof. Once we know, then we can explore re-use. But that's years in the future.
The shuttle was massive over kill for 90% of the missions it flew.

It would be incorrect to assume Dragon and Dreamchaser would suffer from the same issues.
Just by being a smaller vehicle the ground crew needed is going to be smaller.
A business jet does not need the same size ground crew a jumbo needs.

Actually, I was trying to say that. We were discussing if Orion were re-usable or what needs to be done to make it re-usable. And my point was, we don't know yet. We learned from the Shuttle how a reusable LEO craft can be done, what worked, what didn't, and both Dragon and Dreamchaser are results of that, along with the researched Lockheed reusable booster being tested.

jacqmans · « **Reply #190 on:** 02/10/2011 06:42 pm »

Lockheed Martin Ships Out First Orion Spacecraft

10-Feb-2011 9:03 AM

NEW ORLEANS, Feb. 10, 2011 /PRNewswire via COMTEX/ -- The Lockheed Martin (NYSE: LMT) Orion team shipped out the first Orion crew module spacecraft structure today from NASA's Michoud Assembly Facility in New Orleans, La. The spacecraft is headed to Lockheed Martin's Denver, Colo. facilities where it will undergo a series of rigorous tests to confirm Orion's ability to safely fly astronauts through all the harsh environments of deep space exploration missions.

Soon after the spacecraft arrives in Denver, it will be integrated with the heat shield and thermal protection backshell before undergoing environmental testing. This crew module will also go through a series of simulated landing scenarios at Langley's new Hydro Impact Basin. The Langley facility will be used to test, validate and certify water landings for all human-rated spacecraft for NASA.

"This is a significant milestone for the Orion project and puts us on the right path toward achieving the President's objective of Orion's first crewed mission by 2016," said Cleon Lacefield, Lockheed Martin vice president and Orion program manager. "Orion's upcoming performance tests will demonstrate how the spacecraft meets the challenges of deep-space mission environments such as ascent, launch abort, on-orbit operations, high-speed return trajectory, parachute deployment, and water landings in a variety of sea states."

Built to spaceflight specifications, this Orion ground test vehicle has already validated advanced production processes, equipment and tools required to manufacture the Orion crew module space flight hardware. Data collected from the testing and pathfinding operations will be incorporated to enhance design, requirements, tooling, processes, inspection and test that will ultimately result in a safe, reliable and affordable human-rated space exploration vehicle.

Orion has passed critical human-rating milestones, including Orion's flawless flight test of its launch abort system and the successful phase one safety review that validated Orion meets many of NASA's stringent requirements for safe human spaceflight.

Lockheed Martin is the prime contractor to NASA for the Orion crew exploration vehicle - the nation's next generation spacecraft that features advanced technologies for more complex and challenging human space exploration missions throughout our solar system. The Orion spacecraft will be comprised of a crew module for crew and cargo transport; a service module for propulsion, electrical power and fluids storage; a spacecraft adapter for securing it to a launch vehicle, and a launch abort system that will significantly improve crew safety.

Lockheed Martin leads the Orion industry team which includes major subcontractors as well as a nationwide network of minor subcontractors and small businesses. In addition, Lockheed Martin contracts with hundreds of small and disadvantaged business suppliers across the United States through an expansive supply chain network.

Headquartered in Bethesda, Md., Lockheed Martin is a global security company that employs about 132,000 people worldwide and is principally engaged in the research, design, development, manufacture, integration and sustainment of advanced technology systems, products and services. The Corporation's 2010 sales from continuing operations were $45.8 billion.

Media Contacts:

Linda Singleton 832-526-8089 or 281-283-4219 or

Marion LaNasa 303-971-8910 or 303 931-9003 or

For photos and video files for this release, go to:
http://www.lockheedmartin.com/orion

Ronsmytheiii · « **Reply #191 on:** 02/11/2011 02:20 pm »

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Having spent the night in Marshall, TX the Orion Crew Module continues the trek to Denver, CO

http://twitter.com/Orioncrewmodule

robertross · « **Reply #192 on:** 02/12/2011 01:01 am »

Quote from: Ronsmytheiii on 02/11/2011 02:20 pm

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Having spent the night in Marshall, TX the Orion Crew Module continues the trek to Denver, CO

Well that answers that: road trip (not by plane)

Ronsmytheiii · « **Reply #193 on:** 02/14/2011 08:12 pm »

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Orion Crew Module arrives in Denver, Colorado

http://twitter.com/Orioncrewmodule

nickyp · « **Reply #194 on:** 02/14/2011 08:40 pm »

Excellent! Now lets get that TPS on!

orionContractor · « **Reply #195 on:** 02/14/2011 08:59 pm »

Quote from: Ronsmytheiii on 02/14/2011 08:12 pm

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Orion Crew Module arrives in Denver, Colorado

http://twitter.com/Orioncrewmodule

This can't be at WB2 I have been there, where is this storage hanger does anyone know?

Ancient · « **Reply #196 on:** 02/15/2011 12:16 am »

VTF Low Bay @ Waterton.

JosephB · « **Reply #197 on:** 02/15/2011 08:42 pm »

new update:
http://cxamdb.com/article.asp?artid=550
http://cxamdb.com/article.asp?artid=549

TexasRED · « **Reply #198 on:** 02/15/2011 08:49 pm »

Quote from: JosephB on 02/15/2011 08:42 pm

new update:
http://cxamdb.com/article.asp?artid=550
http://cxamdb.com/article.asp?artid=549

hehe

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The Orion software team successfully completed and delivered Software Release 6.1. This milestone marks the first time that the various software applications that control different Orion processes (navigation, communications, environmental control, etc.) ares combined into one integrated software product.

orionContractor · « **Reply #199 on:** 02/15/2011 08:51 pm »

Quote from: TexasRED on 02/15/2011 08:49 pm

Quote from: JosephB on 02/15/2011 08:42 pm
new update:
http://cxamdb.com/article.asp?artid=550
http://cxamdb.com/article.asp?artid=549

hehe

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The Orion software team successfully completed and delivered Software Release 6.1. This milestone marks the first time that the various software applications that control different Orion processes (navigation, communications, environmental control, etc.) ares combined into one integrated software product.

They are trying to slip an ares in there to take credit for our release :-P