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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #880 on: 11/18/2025 12:34 am »
Surmise: SpaceX is confident in booster reuse and plans on expending and/or retiring ships in the near future.

Also, that they seem reasonably confident that booster refurbishment won't take long.

The path to re-flying a given booster multiple times in a single month seems imminently achievable (with true rapid reusability not that far off). Meanwhile, even once they are consistently catching ships, the refurbishment and requalification work is certainly going to be significant in the beginning. And even once they've caught enough to understand the scope of work required and made improvements in the most glaring trouble-spots, it's very likely that ship refurbishment will always be more intensive than booster refurbishment.

If a booster requires a week to refurbish, and a ship requires a month, then they'd need about four times as many ships as boosters. My guess is that the refurbishment ratio is even larger than that, and the only reasons why there is more than one ship and/or fewer ships in production is that they need backup boosters in case of losses and they don't want to lead too much in ship production to allow for design changes. (That and limits on space)
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #881 on: 11/18/2025 03:17 pm »
Surmise: SpaceX is confident in booster reuse and plans on expending and/or retiring ships in the near future.

Also, that they seem reasonably confident that booster refurbishment won't take long.
All that, but you want to have one spare, since if a returning booster aborts conservatively (and soft touches within the dump site) they should be able to fly again immediately, if they have that spare.
True that.


Booster reuse may not yet be perfect, with a lot of room for refinement in performance and reliability, but it's mostly a done deal. Now to get ahead of the curve and always have an extra.

With the V3 boosters there is still some learning to do on the design and materials that make reuse work well.  Given they have already reused the previous booster design it is encouraging for the V3's. 

If the V4's are 1 Elon year away (2 human years) then we should only see a small number of V3 boosters, less than 10 for sure.

One reason I am very positive about the Starship and HLS flight rate going forward is that there won't be nearly as much resources going into booster production and they can put much more energy into the ship.

Booster reuse enables everything going forward.
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #882 on: 11/21/2025 12:40 am »
New skirt is 12 wide

Wouldn't you just move to a larger diameter tank at this point?

I've been asking the same question about Starship for years.  (I hate that it's not 10 meters in diameter)

Ill bring this to this thread.  ITS was originally 12m. they downgrade to Starship so they could start launching.

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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #883 on: 11/25/2025 02:24 pm »
https://twitter.com/TrackingTheSB/status/1993338547114590302

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Overnight S39.1 rolled out to Massey's ahead of testing.
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #884 on: 11/25/2025 08:50 pm »
https://twitter.com/CyberguruG8073/status/1993432448223662307


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Starship Hardware Diagram (2025-11-21 - 2025-11-25)

Significant Changes :

Booster 18 CH4 Tank Cut Off; Half The LOX Tank Is Also Cut Off.

B19 Has Started Stacking; A2:3 Rolled into MB1 Earlier

Ship 46 Has Been Moved To A Workstand
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #885 on: 11/29/2025 12:38 am »
November 28 Status:

https://twitter.com/CyberguruG8073/status/1994530405782097947

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Starship Hardware Diagram (2025-11-25 - 2025-11-28)

Booster 18 Scrapping Continues!

Visible Changes:

Ship 41 Receives Other Forward Flap

B19's CX:3 Rolled Into MB1

Misc:

We can expect Ship 40 to start stacking in the coming weeks!
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #886 on: 11/29/2025 09:02 pm »
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #887 on: 11/29/2025 09:06 pm »
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More angles of booster 18. In the middle is the main fuel transfer tube for methane we can see internal stiffeners  /stringers also an access ladder. Sitting to the upper right is the new dedicated LOX header tank for landing and its associated pipe work to feed the outer 10 and center 3 clusters of engines. Amazing photo from
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #888 on: 12/05/2025 04:30 am »
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #889 on: 12/05/2025 10:08 pm »
Meanwhile - Test Booster 18 out as at Massey, - we all know that, but did you want to see what was behind the new raceway that is only a few barrels long.

https://twitter.com/mymatrixplug/status/1996977257038962998


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Booster 18 Forward Dome sitting front stage at Massey’s.
   
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #890 on: 12/06/2025 02:39 am »
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Starship Hardware Diagram (2025-11-28 - 2025-12-04)

Happy December!

With Booster 18 still being scrapped...

Noticeable Changes :
Booster 19's A3-A6:4 rolled into MB1
Ship 48 has finally been spotted!
Ship 46 has received both headers
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #891 on: 12/23/2025 07:05 am »
https://twitter.com/TrackingTheSB/status/2003370732546310372

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Tonight, TT18 (S39.1) rolled back to the production site from Masseys.

Minutes after this clip, it was moved back to Sanchez, where it now sits.

SpaceX never sleeps.
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #892 on: 12/23/2025 04:52 pm »
Here is the weekly SuperHeavy and Starship build status

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Starship Hardware Diagram (2025-12-13 - 2025-12-21)

Bringing in New Diagrams!

The last section of Booster 19 (F3:4 / Forward 3) has rolled into Megabay 1

Ship 39 has also received its raceways

All hardware spotted with cameras from

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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #893 on: 12/30/2025 05:29 am »
Something special is emerging from the factory and is en route to Massey. It appears it will be installed on top of the test tank 18.3, which features the staging ring, and the section that rolled out tonight will be positioned on top of that.

There will be a series of posts:


https://twitter.com/efraser77/status/2005855694273003845

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A short barrel section with stringers at the top has emerged from Starfactory this evening and is sitting in the ring yard. Is this the reason for tonight's road delay?


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It appears the answer is yes. The barrel did a lovely pirouette in front of CP11 and is now about to hit the road.

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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #894 on: 12/30/2025 05:31 am »
This series of posts reveals that the relocated section will be connected to the staging truss, with a can crusher ring attached to perform stress testing on the staging truss.


https://twitter.com/TrackingTheSB/status/2005883834047377754

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A two-ring barrel section with a can crusher interface is rolling down HWY 4 to Massey's.


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Looks like this will sit on B18.3 and test the integrated hot stage truss

https://twitter.com/isaiahPVT/status/2005883660445077666

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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #895 on: 12/30/2025 05:39 am »
A zoom-in portion of the section moved to Massey:


https://twitter.com/HardcoreElectr1/status/2005890918197457364

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Tonight's Rollout.
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #896 on: 12/30/2025 10:53 pm »
Better image of the segment moved to Massey last night.

https://twitter.com/HardcoreElectr1/status/2005889497683128400
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #897 on: 12/30/2025 10:54 pm »
Video of the same.

https://twitter.com/MarcusHouse/status/2006148622711198067

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Interesting. This has mounts for the can crusher cap, so should mount to the top of B18.3 for hot stage testing.
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Re: SpaceX Starship/Super Heavy Engineering General Thread 5
« Reply #898 on: 01/03/2026 08:22 pm »
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Re: Starship variant for crewed Mars ascent
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All -

Howdy !

Will it even be possible for enough titanium and other important materials to be sourced and provided in a reliable
interval; to support a production schedule of 100…. let alone 1,000 Starships per synod ?!

In the case of titanium, there is already a great demand driven by commercial airliner engine  production, private jet engines production, commercial and NASA  rocket production; and certainly by production dedicated to Military programs.


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