Quote from: Lee Jay on 09/03/2011 02:37 pmThere's not much that's simple about a screw. An ordinary grade-5 screw you might buy at a hardware store has rolled threads, a broached head, is hardened to a pretty high level, and is likely treated in one way or another to be corrosion resistant. Making one using 3D printing will require an extreme level of precision, and several operations afterwards.Um.. I don't doubt it Maybe it would always be worth having a specialized machine just for screws at that. I guess a complex integrated circuit or solar cell might be easier than a screw.
There's not much that's simple about a screw. An ordinary grade-5 screw you might buy at a hardware store has rolled threads, a broached head, is hardened to a pretty high level, and is likely treated in one way or another to be corrosion resistant. Making one using 3D printing will require an extreme level of precision, and several operations afterwards.
Paging user SpaceXULA.Yeah, people are starting to fabricate rocket engines with this technology. Paul Breed has done it successfully, as has the guy on the rocketmoonlighting.blogspot.com blog.Here's the rocketmoonlighting guy's test of his Direct Metal Laser Sintering regen rocket motor:Or maybe this run is better, since you can see the cooling channels:You can see one of his earlier printed rocket motors:
Quote from: KelvinZero on 09/03/2011 03:07 pmQuote from: Lee Jay on 09/03/2011 02:37 pmThere's not much that's simple about a screw. An ordinary grade-5 screw you might buy at a hardware store has rolled threads, a broached head, is hardened to a pretty high level, and is likely treated in one way or another to be corrosion resistant. Making one using 3D printing will require an extreme level of precision, and several operations afterwards.Um.. I don't doubt it Maybe it would always be worth having a specialized machine just for screws at that. I guess a complex integrated circuit or solar cell might be easier than a screw.There is also a two-step process. One of the more successful methods for producing such things with a 3D printer is not to print them directly, but to print a mold with which to cast them. I know I'm planning on using that method for producing some parts.
Quote from: Downix on 09/03/2011 11:49 pmQuote from: KelvinZero on 09/03/2011 03:07 pmQuote from: Lee Jay on 09/03/2011 02:37 pmThere's not much that's simple about a screw. An ordinary grade-5 screw you might buy at a hardware store has rolled threads, a broached head, is hardened to a pretty high level, and is likely treated in one way or another to be corrosion resistant. Making one using 3D printing will require an extreme level of precision, and several operations afterwards.Um.. I don't doubt it Maybe it would always be worth having a specialized machine just for screws at that. I guess a complex integrated circuit or solar cell might be easier than a screw.There is also a two-step process. One of the more successful methods for producing such things with a 3D printer is not to print them directly, but to print a mold with which to cast them. I know I'm planning on using that method for producing some parts.I could see it being all kinds of uses for mock ups or in the production of molds, tool and die making. For strength it’s hard to beat billet or forged parts and then CNC machining where necessary. Rapid prototyping really speeds up development with composite structures.Robert
Direct Metal Laser Sintering rivals forging for strength, and is also a 3D printing process. For parts like screws, it's overkill, but so is forged. It depends on the demand.{snip}
Quote from: Downix on 09/04/2011 02:39 amDirect Metal Laser Sintering rivals forging for strength, and is also a 3D printing process. For parts like screws, it's overkill, but so is forged. It depends on the demand.{snip}Just a side thought. On the Moon and Mars there is no local wood so in practice screws means nuts and bolts.
Quote from: Rocket Science on 09/04/2011 12:49 amQuote from: Downix on 09/03/2011 11:49 pmQuote from: KelvinZero on 09/03/2011 03:07 pmQuote from: Lee Jay on 09/03/2011 02:37 pmThere's not much that's simple about a screw. An ordinary grade-5 screw you might buy at a hardware store has rolled threads, a broached head, is hardened to a pretty high level, and is likely treated in one way or another to be corrosion resistant. Making one using 3D printing will require an extreme level of precision, and several operations afterwards.Um.. I don't doubt it Maybe it would always be worth having a specialized machine just for screws at that. I guess a complex integrated circuit or solar cell might be easier than a screw.There is also a two-step process. One of the more successful methods for producing such things with a 3D printer is not to print them directly, but to print a mold with which to cast them. I know I'm planning on using that method for producing some parts.I could see it being all kinds of uses for mock ups or in the production of molds, tool and die making. For strength it’s hard to beat billet or forged parts and then CNC machining where necessary. Rapid prototyping really speeds up development with composite structures.RobertDirect Metal Laser Sintering rivals forging for strength, and is also a 3D printing process. For parts like screws, it's overkill, but so is forged. It depends on the demand.As it is now, 3D printing is gaining cost effectiveness by leaps and bounds. It is now only a matter of time before the incredible flexibility it offers will have it replace traditional manufacturing methods in low volume manufacturing, which the various space industries are very much part of.
Expecting precision engineering from 3D printers is like expecting photo quality from 2D printers...
Quote from: Andrew_W on 09/05/2011 08:31 amExpecting precision engineering from 3D printers is like expecting photo quality from 2D printers...Um, we've got that...
Just remember folk, something does not need to be better than the existing to win out. Laser Printers were not better than a printing press, just a lot more convenient. They were "Good enough" and that is all that is needed. 3D printers are rapidly approaching that "Good Enough" point for small scale work, and once the tipping point happens, it will ratchet upwards quickly.
... Like laser printers 3D printers are able to make a vast array of parts in an automated fashion without reconfiguration. 3D printers will not replace all manufacturing lines like some have predicted because it cannot produce an item as cheaply in mass as many of our mass production factories. Like the laser printer, the 3D printer, will have the largest effect on limited productions.
Since the rocket business does not sell enough rockets to justify the high amount of automation in mass production lines, they will likely benefit from 3D printing technology to some degree.
However some materials will *never* work using these systems. Making a single crystal will *probably* require the ability precise positioning on an atom by atom basis which is pretty slow with an atomic force microscope (but just *maybe* someone can devise a really neat hack to make multi-atomic blocks and speed up the process )