zinfab - 20/4/2007 1:24 PMAn employee of subcontractor - Jacobs Engineering.
rdale - 20/4/2007 10:40 PMQuotepubliusr - 20/4/2007 4:23 PMNot again...God no!When has this happened at JSC in the past?
publiusr - 20/4/2007 4:23 PMNot again...God no!
zinfab - 20/4/2007 3:36 PMJacobs is responsible for ISS engineering equipment, according to MSNBC. Any more details?
rdale - 20/4/2007 10:58 PMPress conference around 5pm EDT / 21Z
DaveS - 20/4/2007 5:01 PMQuoterdale - 20/4/2007 10:58 PMPress conference around 5pm EDT / 21ZNASA TV?
Security Situation UpdateIn the last e-mail communication, employees were encouraged to remain in their buildings. There’s no need to continue to shelter-in-place. Employees are welcome to leave as they desire.In light of the ongoing situation, employees are asked to exit through the following gates: For those in the 300 and 400 area, please exit through the Space Center Boulevard gate near Bay Area Boulevard.For employees located in the 200 area and core area, please exit through the main gate or through the Space Center Boulevard gate (closest to the NASA Parkway and the Hilton).For parents departing the child care center, please use the Gilruth exit or the "Hilton Gate." To ensure your safety, Security has blocked off Second Street -- the road in front of Building 44. We appreciate your continued cooperation with Security officials.----Brought to you by the JSC Office of Communications and Public Affairs.
rdale - 20/4/2007 10:11 PMBasically now they just wait him out - there's no threat to anyone around the center, just this gunman.
zinfab - 20/4/2007 5:17 PMhomicide squad (houston news) present.internal affairs presentimplies police shot someone.bhan, that sounds awful.
bhankiii - 20/4/2007 5:23 PMjust waiting on the names...
zinfab - 20/4/2007 6:32 PMMSNBC with more details:"Authorities did not identify any of those involved in the ordeal. However, co-workers told MSNBC.com on condition of anonymity that the gunman was long considered an office hothead. He did not work at Building 44, but rather at a nearby office building, they said.
bhankiii - 21/4/2007 11:54 AMDave Beverly - our EEE parts guy apparently was the victim. I just talked to him last week. Dave's job was to help us determine what electrical and electronic parts were qualified for space flight.
A Message from Center Director Mike CoatsA tragedy struck our NASA family today.While we don't yet understand all that's happened, our hearts and prayers go out to the families and coworkers who lost their loved ones today and to the survivor who endured a tragic ordeal.Violence of this kind is always difficult to understand. In the days to come, you may find yourself experiencing a variety of physical or emotional reactions. If you'd like to talk with someone, there are resources to help you. Please call the Employee Assistance Program.As we learn more about this event and its causes, we'll share that information as we can. In the meantime, please take this time to care for yourself and the people around you.Mike
bhankiii - 20/4/2007 8:54 PMDave Beverly - our EEE parts guy apparently was the victim. I just talked to him last week. Dave's job was to help us determine what electrical and electronic parts were qualified for space flight.
rdale - 21/4/2007 1:39 PMConsidering that you posted this while the press conference was ongoing - there's probably a quicker way to check ;>
JimO - 21/4/2007 7:44 PM "The contractor groups are very often just labor plantations forvarious kinds of specialty jobs that people need to staff up andthen staff down, then go work for someone else. The contractworkers often have minimal if any benefits, medical or retirementbenefits -- but they are people who want to work in space [program], they are enthusiastic about space. "And they realize that unlike most of the jobs you get laid off from,where you can use your skills in some other industry or profession,in space this is the only game in town.
Jim - 21/4/2007 1:38 PMI am going to be petty here and it goes way back to when I was in the Air Force. Many articles state that Phillips worked for NASA. Only government employees work for NASA. Phillips was employed by and worked for Jacobs. Jacobs was a contractor for NASA. If anyone "worked" for NASA, it is Jacobs. It is just a supplier for a grocery store, they don't work for the grocery store but they support it
MATTBLAK - 22/4/2007 6:41 AMThe job displacements would be even worse if Nasa was deep-sixing all the Shuttle elements(?). I wonder what it would be like if the SRBs and ET tooling were dumped in favour of all-EELV derived components? It would be like starting from scratch, in a similar way to discontinuing all the Saturn hardware in the early/mid seventies...
bhankiii - 23/4/2007 1:00 PMCan we have just one thread on this site that doesn't devolve into this tired old argument? People have died here.Chris - I vote we freeze this thread, and try to move on.