Author Topic: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Hotbird 13F : Florida : 15 October 2022 (05:22 UTC)  (Read 65699 times)

Offline crandles57

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Wikipedia Ariane 5 page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_5

has 10B on Ariane 5 with a ref.

It also has 13F on Ariane 5 but AFAICS the ref doesn't seem to support this being an Ariane 5 launch.
Nevertheless, there may have been some reason for having 13F there and not 13G even if it isn't currently supported by a ref.

On the other hand
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=6114.2520
has

2023
NET Q2 - Eutelsat Hotbird 13G - Ariane 64 - Kourou ELA-4
and not 13F

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Wikipedia Ariane 5 page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariane_5

has 10B on Ariane 5 with a ref.

It also has 13F on Ariane 5 but AFAICS the ref doesn't seem to support this being an Ariane 5 launch.
Nevertheless, there may have been some reason for having 13F there and not 13G even if it isn't currently supported by a ref.

On the other hand
https://forum.nasaspaceflight.com/index.php?topic=6114.2520
has

2023
NET Q2 - Eutelsat Hotbird 13G - Ariane 64 - Kourou ELA-4
and not 13F

As a Wikipedia contributor, I can tall you that most of the times news go from here to Wikipedia and not the other way around, so if the Wikipedia entry is still displaying an Ariane 5 launch is probably because of a lack of solid sources towards any other direction

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The first of Airbus’ next generation geostationary Eurostar Neo satellites is ready to be shipped to Cape Canaveral for launch preparations.

HOTBIRD 13F [...] will be positioned at 13 degrees east along with its twin satellite, HOTBIRD 13G, also built by Airbus and being launched later this year.

https://www.airbus.com/en/newsroom/press-releases/2022-09-first-airbus-eurostar-neo-satellite-ready-for-shipment-to-launch
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So this one is Hotbird 13F and I'd bet the one next month with expendable booster is likely Hotbird 13G with that moon lander that was supposed to go as rideshare. Would make sense for that one to have expendable booster as it needs more payload to GTO than normal and would be bad for SpaceX to do subsynch GTO on that one (Hotbird 13G is electric and it would take a lot longer, plus the lunar lander might have a harder time to get there)

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https://twitter.com/airbusspace/status/1569663375335985154

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The first of Airbus’ next generation geostationary Eurostar Neo satellites 🛰️, @Eutelsat_SA #HOTBIRD 13F, is ready to be shipped to Cape Canaveral for launch preparations. 🚀
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First Airbus Eurostar Neo satellite ready for shipment to launch site

HOTBIRD 13F to offer EUTELSAT state of the art broadcast capability

With its twin HOTBIRD 13G, both satellites will broadcast over 1,000 television channels across Europe, Northern Africa and the Middle East

Toulouse, 13 September 2022 – The first of Airbus’ next generation geostationary Eurostar Neo satellites is ready to be shipped to Cape Canaveral for launch preparations.

HOTBIRD 13F will inaugurate the Eurostar Neo satellite era, while still benefiting from Airbus' strong heritage of 80 Eurostar family satellites already launched. It will be positioned at 13 degrees east along with its twin satellite, HOTBIRD 13G, also built by Airbus and being launched later this year.

The Eurostar Neo pair feature increased payload capacity, more efficient power and thermal control systems than previous generation and will replace three Eutelsat satellites currently in orbit at this location.

Francois Gaullier, Head of Telecommunications & Navigation Systems at Airbus said: “Eutelsat has been a valued partner for many Airbus satellite firsts from pioneering the previous Eurostar E3000 generation, to electric orbit raising or the first fully flexible payload – and now with our first Eurostar Neos. This new platform has been developed thanks to the support of ESA, showing the power of partnerships between industry, agencies and commercial players in Europe.”

The HOTBIRD 13F and 13G satellites will both have more than two tons of payload, spacecraft power of 22 kW and yet a launch mass of only 4,500 kg, thanks to Electric Orbit Raising. They will enhance Eutelsat’s ability to serve its 135 million customers across Europe, North Africa and the Middle East.
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First Eurostar Neo satellite ready to ship

13/09/2022

The first satellite to be built under ESA’s Eurostar Neo programme stands ready to be shipped to its launch site.

The satellite – called Eutelsat Hotbird 13F – is one of an identical pair developed by satellite manufacturer Airbus for satellite operator Eutelsat in an ESA Partnership Project designed to foster innovation and competitiveness in the European space industry.

Once launched into geostationary orbit some 36 000 km above Earth, the twin satellites will reinforce and enhance the broadcast of more than a thousand television channels into homes across Europe, Northern Africa and the Middle East, replacing three older satellites.

The Eurostar Neo satellite has now completed all its on-ground testing, including thermal and mechanical environmental test campaigns and all final integrated system tests. These included a checkout of all on-board systems and deployment of the solar arrays and antennas in the Airbus integration and test facilities in Toulouse, France.

This constitutes a major project milestone because it paves the way for the final customer review and shipment to launch site.

Eutelsat will now complete its internal review process before shipment to the launch site in Florida.

Elodie Viau, Director of Telecommunications and Integrated Applications at ESA, said: “I am proud to see that the first satellite to be developed under the ESA Eurostar Neo Partnership Project with Airbus is ready for shipment to its launch site. ESA works with the European space industry to foster innovation for success in the competitive global market for telecommunications satellites, creating jobs and prosperity in Europe.”

The completion of the first satellite provides an end-to-end validation of the complete Eurostar Neo product line concept, from design to fully tested product.

Seven other Eurostar Neo spacecraft have been sold by Airbus. They are at various stages of design and manufacturing and will all benefit from improvements drawn from this first build.

ESA’s Neosat programme comprises both Eurostar Neo by Airbus and Spacebus Neo by Thales Alenia Space. It includes development up to in-orbit validation of new satellite product lines for both companies, allowing the European space industry to deliver competitive satellites for the global commercial satellite market.

Sixteen Neosat satellites have now been ordered, demonstrating the high economic impact of the ESA’s Partnership Projects, which foster the development of sustainable end-to-end systems up to in-orbit validation.

Neosat is part of ESA’s programme of Advanced Research in Telecommunications Systems (ARTES) and is supported by the French space agency, CNES, and the UK Space Agency, as well as 14 other Member States.

https://www.esa.int/Applications/Telecommunications_Integrated_Applications/First_Eurostar_Neo_satellite_ready_to_ship
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From Ben Cooper:

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And a Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Hotbird 13F comsat for Eutelsat in mid October.

http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html

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1452-EX-ST-2022
Mission 1498 from LC-40 at CCAFS or LC-39A at KSC, and the experimental recovery operation following the Falcon 9 launch
NET early October
ASDS to the East:  North  28  24  49   West  73  48  19
Launches Seen: Atlas V OA-7, Falcon 9 Starlink 6-4, Falcon 9 CRS-28,

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SFN has now listed this launch on October 14, 03:25-05:24 UTC = 11:25 pm October 13 - 1:24 am October 14 EDT.

Also "The Falcon 9’s first stage booster will land on a drone ship in the Atlantic Ocean.".
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Ben Cooper concurs:

Quote from:  http://www.launchphotography.com/Launch_Viewing_Guide.html
And a Falcon 9 from pad 40 will launch the Hotbird 13F comsat for Eutelsat on October 13 at 11:25pm EDT

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https://twitter.com/esatelecoms/status/1573303794657533954

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Another major milestone for ESA’s Neosat Partnership Project, with departure of the first Eurostar Neo satellite to its launch site. Called Eutelsat Hotbird 13F, the satellite was built by @AirbusSpace for operator @Eutelsat_SA under an ESA Partnership Project @Partner_InOrbit

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Next Spaceflight writes: B1069, flight #3
https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7016


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it look 12.10 will be launch 13f

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October 3 update:
https://spaceflightnow.com/launch-schedule/
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Oct. 12/13 • Falcon 9 • Hotbird 13F
Launch window: 0325-0524 GMT on 13th (11:25 p.m.-1:24 a.m. EDT on 12th/13th)
Launch site: SLC-40, Cape Canaveral Space Force Station, Florida
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Phew, Space Coast Live is gonna give me a lot of work spotting boosters if they keep launching like this. Just a few minutes ago another Falcon 9 booster passed by the VAB at KSC, likely to be B1069-3 for Hotbird 13F launch next week from SLC-40.

B1073 - Lower right picture..

https://twitter.com/Alexphysics13/status/1577810330662707200
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As expected, this launch date is no longer feasible due to Galaxy 33/34 delays. Ben Cooper now lists October TBD launch date on his website.

SpaceX usually needs a gap of at least 5 or 6 days between launches from the same pad.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Hotbird 13F : Florida : October 2022
« Reply #58 on: 10/09/2022 02:20 am »
Now October 14 UTC (late October 13 EDT) per this NGA notice.

Quote from: NGA
080100Z OCT 22
NAVAREA IV 1055/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   140325Z TO 140611Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   0325Z TO 0611Z DAILY 15 THRU 19 OCT AND
   200326Z TO 200609Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-35.76N 080-34.98W, 28-38.00N 080-29.00W,
      28-37.00N 080-11.00W, 28-33.00N 080-10.00W,
      28-31.00N 080-17.00W, 28-31.00N 080-33.28W,
      28-31.68N 080-33.61W.
   B. 28-56.00N 075-59.00W, 29-02.00N 072-55.00W,
      28-40.00N 071-53.00W, 28-01.00N 071-53.00W,
      27-37.00N 072-49.00W, 28-10.00N 075-58.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 200709Z OCT 22.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : Hotbird 13F : Florida : October 2022
« Reply #59 on: 10/09/2022 10:05 am »
Now October 14 UTC (late October 13 EDT) per this NGA notice.

Quote from: NGA
080100Z OCT 22
NAVAREA IV 1055/22(11,26).
WESTERN NORTH ATLANTIC.
FLORIDA.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, ROCKET LAUNCHING
   140325Z TO 140611Z OCT, ALTERNATE
   0325Z TO 0611Z DAILY 15 THRU 19 OCT AND
   200326Z TO 200609Z OCT
   IN AREAS BOUND BY:
   A. 28-35.76N 080-34.98W, 28-38.00N 080-29.00W,
      28-37.00N 080-11.00W, 28-33.00N 080-10.00W,
      28-31.00N 080-17.00W, 28-31.00N 080-33.28W,
      28-31.68N 080-33.61W.
   B. 28-56.00N 075-59.00W, 29-02.00N 072-55.00W,
      28-40.00N 071-53.00W, 28-01.00N 071-53.00W,
      27-37.00N 072-49.00W, 28-10.00N 075-58.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 200709Z OCT 22.

Nice, that would be a new pad turnaround record.

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