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Thread for the Starlink Group 7-7 launch.

Launch 20 November 2023, 10:30:40 UTC (2:30 am PST) from Vandenberg SFB SLC-4E, on booster 1063-15.  The first stage will land aboard Of Course I Still Love You.

Payload 22 Starlink V2 Mini satellites to 53 degree inclination orbit on a southeastern trajectory, no dogleg.  Initial orbit 286 x 296 km.

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1520-EX-ST-2023  SpaceX Mission 2189 Starlink Group 7-7/Dogleg Trajectory Option
Vandenberg, NET August [15]
ASDS  North  28  55  50   West  119  5  24

1575-EX-ST-2023  SpaceX Mission 2189 Starlink Group 7-7 Flyover option
Vandenberg, NET September [5]
ASDS  North  29  52  50   West  116  45  3

https://nextspaceflight.com/launches/details/7255
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Starlink Group 7-7
Launch Time
NET November, 2023
...
SLC-4E, Vandenberg SFB, California, USA

Transporter-9; my bold:
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Kongsberg Satellite Services AS (“KSAT”) provides this information pursuant to Section 25.120 of the Commission’s rules1 to supplement its request for 30 day special temporary authority (“STA”) for its earth station in Maui, Hawaii (“Station”) to provide launch and early operation support for the RapidEO satellite (“Satellite”) a satellite operated by L3Harris Technologies Inc. (“L3Harris”) for a U.S. government classified program.

The Satellite is scheduled to be launched on the SpaceX Transporter 9 mission, planned for November 7, 2023. Grant of the STA by November 6, 2023 is needed to meet the communication needs for this classified satellite program.

This Vandenberg Falcon 9 launch follows the 27 October UTC Starlink 7-6 launch.  It also does follow likely follows the November 11 7 Transporter-9 launch, in mid November.

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These two Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) came out around the same time as the notices for Starlink Group 6-28 from SLC-40, but look like they're for a Starlink Group 7-# launch out of Vandy.

Quote from: NGA
120607Z NOV 23
HYDROPAC 3557/23(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
DNC 06, DNC 07.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   170917Z TO 171345Z, 180855Z TO 181323Z,
   190834Z TO 191302Z, 200812Z TO 201240Z,
   210751Z TO 211219Z, 220729Z TO 221157Z
   AND 230708Z TO 231136Z NOV
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   34-20.00S 090-24.00W, 31-22.00S 090-24.00W,
   00-10.00S 115-17.00W, 01-19.00S 116-54.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 231236Z NOV 23.
Quote from: NGA
120608Z NOV 23
NAVAREA XII 805/23(22).
EASTERN SOUTH PACIFIC.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   170917Z TO 171345Z, 180855Z TO 181323Z,
   190834Z TO 191302Z, 200812Z TO 201240Z,
   210751Z TO 211219Z, 220729Z TO 221157Z
   AND 230708Z TO 231136Z NOV
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   34-20.00S 090-24.00W, 31-22.00S 090-24.00W,
   00-10.00S 115-17.00W, 01-19.00S 116-54.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 231236Z NOV 23.

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SPACE X - STARLINK 7-7 VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   11/17/23   0738Z-1204Z
BACKUP:      11/18/23   0716Z-1142Z
      11/19/23   0655Z-1121Z


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NGA Space Debris notice for the booster and fairing recovery.

Quote from: NGA
142316Z NOV 23
NAVAREA XII 807/23(21).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
MEXICO.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   170738Z TO 171204Z, 180716Z TO 181142Z,
   190655Z TO 191121Z, 200633Z TO 201059Z,
   210612Z TO 211038Z, 220550Z TO 221016Z
   AND 230529Z TO 230955Z NOV IN AREA BOUND BY
   29-55.00N 116-17.00W, 30-32.00N 117-12.00W,
   30-31.00N 117-14.00W, 29-27.00N 116-48.00W,
   29-14.00N 116-35.00W, 29-24.00N 116-10.00W,
   29-44.00N 116-09.00W.
2. CANCEL THIS MSG 231055Z NOV 23.

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NGA Space Debris notice for the booster and fairing recovery.

Same coordinates as 7-6, but in a different order. ASDS 642km downrange.

These two Space Debris notices (the same notice for two different Navigational Areas) came out around the same time as the notices for Starlink Group 6-28 from SLC-40, but look like they're for a Starlink Group 7-# launch out of Vandy.

Identical to 7-6.

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https://twitter.com/nasaspaceflight/status/1724849468829270032

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It's not just Starship that's set to launch this week.

Justin Davenport (@Bubbinski) with the round-up:

https://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2023/11/roundup-3/

Given that Kimberly C is still in Port, and the Primary launch window opens in 1.5 days, we are likely looking at a one day delay on this mission.  Typical departure over the last 6 Starlink missions is 2.3 days prior to opening of launch window.

SPACE X - STARLINK 7-7 VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   11/17/23   0738Z-1204Z
BACKUP:      11/18/23   0716Z-1142Z
      11/19/23   0655Z-1121Z


https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp

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AFAICT, B1063.15 is the only likely booster for this mission - but it seems no one knows for sure.

Is it common to be this close to a launch attempt and still not know which booster?

Edit November 17: It's B1063.15.
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we often do not officaly find out the booster the day before or the day of the launch!

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Given that Kimberly C is still in Port, and the Primary launch window opens in 1.5 days, we are likely looking at a one day delay on this mission.  Typical departure over the last 6 Starlink missions is 2.3 days prior to opening of launch window.

SPACE X - STARLINK 7-7 VANDENBERG SFB, CA
PRIMARY:   11/17/23   0738Z-1204Z
BACKUP:      11/18/23   0716Z-1142Z
      11/19/23   0655Z-1121Z


https://www.fly.faa.gov/adv/adv_spt.jsp

The FAA ATCSCC Current Operations Plan Advisory is now showing Primary as 11/18. No cancel-and-replace NGA notice yet.

Quote from: FAA
SPACE X - STARLINK 7-7 VANDENBERG SFB, CA
P IMARY:    11/18/23    0716Z-1142Z
BACKUP:     11/19/23    0655Z-1121Z
            11/20/23    0633Z-1059Z

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https://twitter.com/TSKelso/status/1724966023592645105
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CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 7-7 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2023-11-18 at 07:17:10 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g7-7. Deployment of 22 satellites is set for 08:19:54.320 UTC. Data for 7 backup launch opportunities is also provided.

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The cancel-and-replace NGA notice for the postponement. This notice is for the booster/fairing recovery. They probably won't bother replacing the notices for the second stage reentry.

Quote from: NGA
162106Z NOV 23
NAVAREA XII 812/23(21).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
MEXICO.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   180716Z TO 181142Z, 190655Z TO 191121Z,
   200633Z TO 201059Z, 210612Z TO 211038Z,
   220550Z TO 221016Z
   AND 230529Z TO 230955Z NOV IN AREA BOUND BY
   29-55.00N 116-17.00W, 30-32.00N 117-12.00W,
   30-31.00N 117-14.00W, 29-27.00N 116-48.00W,
   29-14.00N 116-35.00W, 29-24.00N 116-10.00W,
   29-44.00N 116-09.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 807/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 231055Z NOV 23.

Go Beyond (fka. Go Crusader) departed PoLB on Nov 16 @ 9:23am PT / 12:23pm ET

Unclear what’s happening as boat fka. Scorpius is still in PoLB.  Did OCISLY sneak out with a new tug?

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https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-7-7

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SpaceX is targeting Saturday, November 18 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 10:55 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 2:52 a.m. PT on Sunday, November 19. If needed, additional opportunities are also available on Sunday, November 19 starting at 10:33 p.m. PT.

A live webcast of this mission will begin on X @SpaceX about five minutes prior to liftoff. Watch live.

This is the 15th flight for the first stage booster supporting this mission, which previously launched Sentinel-6 Michael Freilich, DART, Transporter-7, Iridium OneWeb, SDA-0B, and nine Starlink missions. Following stage separation, the first stage will land on the Of Course I Still Love You droneship, which will be stationed in the Pacific Ocean.
18 November 10:55 pm PST = 19 November 06:55 UTC
B1063-15
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One day delay.
https://www.spacex.com/launches/mission/?missionId=sl-7-7
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SpaceX is targeting Saturday, November 18 for a Falcon 9 launch of 22 Starlink satellites to low-Earth orbit from Space Launch Complex 4 East (SLC-4E) at Vandenberg Space Force Base in California. Liftoff is targeted for 10:55 p.m. PT, with backup opportunities available until 2:52 a.m. PT on Sunday, November 19.
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18 November 10:55 pm PST = 19 November 06:55 UTC
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https://twitter.com/tskelso/status/1725617675672731903

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UPDATE #1: CelesTrak has pre-launch SupGP data for the #Starlink Group 7-7 launch from Vandenberg SFB on 2023-11-19 at 06:55:00 UTC: https://celestrak.org/NORAD/elements/supplemental/table.php?FILE=starlink-g7-7. Deployment of 22 satellites is set for 07:57:37.420 UTC. Delayed due to "unfavorable upper-level winds forecast."

As usual, lots of backup launch opportunities
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The cancel-and-replace NGA notice for the latest postponement. This notice is for the booster/fairing recovery. They probably won't bother replacing the notices for the second stage reentry.

Quote from: NGA
172309Z NOV 23
NAVAREA XII 815/23(21).
EASTERN NORTH PACIFIC.
MEXICO.
1. HAZARDOUS OPERATIONS, SPACE DEBRIS
   190655Z TO 191121Z, 200633Z TO 201059Z,
   210612Z TO 211038Z, 220550Z TO 221016Z
   AND 230529Z TO 230955Z NOV
   IN AREA BOUND BY
   29-55.00N 116-17.00W, 30-32.00N 117-12.00W,
   30-31.00N 117-14.00W, 29-27.00N 116-48.00W,
   29-14.00N 116-35.00W, 29-24.00N 116-10.00W,
   29-44.00N 116-09.00W.
2. CANCEL NAVAREA XII 812/23.
3. CANCEL THIS MSG 231055Z NOV 23.

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PDF of online press kit. Link to Twitter livestream and launch times.

https://twitter.com/i/broadcasts/1LyGBnpdezyGN

06:55:00 UTC.
07:09:40 UTC.
08:00:20 UTC.
08:51:00 UTC.
09:11:00 UTC.
09:41:40 UTC.
10:32:20 UTC.
10:52:20 UTC.
Akin's Laws of Spacecraft Design #1:  Engineering is done with numbers.  Analysis without numbers is only an opinion.

Per info from Gav:
Debra C + OCISLY departed PoLB on Nov 14 @ 6pm PT / 9pm ET

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