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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #120 on: 03/19/2020 02:04 pm »
SAOCOM-1B Launch Hazard Areas based on issued NOTMAR, valid for Mar 30 23:18 UTC, alternatively Mar 31.

LZ1 landing for the booster. Extra drop area (red) in case of boostback failure.
Stage2 dogleg maneuver to polar orbit azimuth. Possible fairing recovery in southern (orange) area.

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Hazard Area B (red) makes sense, with the latitudes of its southern boundary a bit south of Biscayne bay, as I described above.

You generated the launch groundtrack yourself, extrapolating from the hazard area coordinates, right?  It would represent the groundtrack of the fairings, not S2, as S2's IIP would be in Hazard Area C at the moment of fairing separation, but its trajectory will continue to bend much farther to the west.  Also, the initial bend should start farther south -- roughly offshore Vero Beach instead of Melbourne -- so that the F9's IIP is in Hazard Area B a MECO.

(But here I am, all talk and no numbers, as I've not calculated just how fast S2's ground track should bend.  Sorry!)

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #121 on: 03/19/2020 04:47 pm »
LZ1 landing for the booster. Extra drop area (red) in case of boostback failure.

Curious... how can the boostback failure impact zone be so far off from the ground track?
Stage separation would be before the dogleg.  S1 continues straight; S2 takes a hard right.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #122 on: 03/19/2020 07:54 pm »
LZ1 landing for the booster. Extra drop area (red) in case of boostback failure.

Curious... how can the boostback failure impact zone be so far off from the ground track?

Perhaps like this?

Edit: take 2.
« Last Edit: 03/19/2020 11:06 pm by OneSpeed »

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #123 on: 03/19/2020 09:51 pm »
LZ1 landing for the booster. Extra drop area (red) in case of boostback failure.

Curious... how can the boostback failure impact zone be so far off from the ground track?

Perhaps like this?

That looks about right. Probably the yellow trajectory will end up more to the west if this is really going to an SSO. But the early trajectory seems to fit the hazard zones

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #124 on: 03/22/2020 09:22 pm »
Country is in full quarantine mode. International trips (specially to the US) are simply forbidden. People can not leave their houses unless medical or food related jobs (with certificate). All non-essencial activities (even public offices) are closed down. Police is patrolling the streets for compliance and traffic is reduced to certificate-carrying essential trips.
Government is funneling every single resource to prepare for the worst. All military factories have been converted to medical supplies, and the military personnel is deploying all the campaign hospitals through the country. Launching a satellite is probably priority infinity at this moment.
I seriously doubt they can launch on time. Things like review meetings and the satellite control stations are probably considered non-critical. And I'm pretty sure if any person or equipment was left behind, they will not be able to transport it.
BTW, all this happens while the country was about to declare a default on all debts, and was running a primary deficit (i.e. even before paying interests). So to say that money is tight, is quite an understatement. I'm pretty sure SACOMO-1B will fly, eventually. But boy are we going into a crisis of herculean proportions.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #125 on: 03/23/2020 10:53 am »
While this launch may slip for many reasons, SAOCOM satellites are - among other - used for disaster monitoring. This is critical infrastructure.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #126 on: 03/23/2020 03:30 pm »
An indefinite launch delay has been confirmed per NSF L2. Reason is travel restrictions for the payload's customer and international partners.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #127 on: 03/23/2020 06:10 pm »
While this launch may slip for many reasons, SAOCOM satellites are - among other - used for disaster monitoring. This is critical infrastructure.
You can't use it for a pandemic, and it is the second satellite of the series. And LEOP would take months, anyways. And poor countries like Argentina have different definitions of critical infrastructure. Delaying it a couple of months is not really critical.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : Mar. 30, 2020 : Florida
« Reply #128 on: 03/24/2020 01:58 pm »
An indefinite launch delay has been confirmed per NSF L2. Reason is travel restrictions for the payload's customer and international partners.

https://twitter.com/joroulette/status/1242444040206987269

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Air Force's 45th Space Wing commander Brig. Gen. Doug Schiess says SpaceX has gone "indefinite" for its SAOCOM 1B mission that was slated for late March. "We were told yesterday that SpaceX is going indefinite on the SAOCOM" launch.

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : NET July 2020 : Florida
« Reply #130 on: 05/19/2020 09:14 pm »
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Prelaunch testing and launch support for the upcoming SAOCOM-1B launch. Operation Start Date:   07/07/2020
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : NET July 2020 : Florida
« Reply #131 on: 05/24/2020 12:35 pm »
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Prelaunch testing and launch support for the upcoming SAOCOM-1B launch. Operation Start Date:   07/07/2020

For the record, the above linked permit application extends the dates of the existing pre-launch testing STA 2346-EX-ST-2019 which expires on 2020 July 7. The pre-launch testing can occur at any time, so July 7 is not a NET for the testing or the launch. Sorry if this was not a confusion, but I have seen it confused elsewhere.

edit: fixed the year in the file number.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : NET July 2020 : Florida
« Reply #132 on: 06/01/2020 07:58 pm »
What news, if any, is there about the resumption of this launch campaign?

I read that the Argentine countrywide quarantine was lifted May 10, with greater Buenos Aires still quarantined to June 7.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : NET July 2020 : Florida
« Reply #133 on: 06/05/2020 03:58 am »
What news, if any, is there about the resumption of this launch campaign?

I read that the Argentine countrywide quarantine was lifted May 10, with greater Buenos Aires still quarantined to June 7.

I've just read a comment on Instagram by CONAE's official account, that they're expecting to launch in Q4, so NET October. It's not the best source, but sounds about right to me, as the launch ops rehearsal should start at least ~1 month before the launch, and we* haven't heard anything yet, so surely not July.

[* Edit to clarify: "we" the thermal support team for LEOP.]
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : NET July 2020 : Florida
« Reply #134 on: 06/05/2020 04:32 am »
They have some sort of presentation tomorrow, maybe they'll say more.

https://twitter.com/CONAE_Oficial/status/1268682435157471234
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SAOCOM Webinar: Argentine Satellites for Productive Development. 🗓 Friday: 06/05 - Alarm clock 18 hours.
 Invited by @mincytcordoba
 We present about the SAOCOM Mission developed by CONAE together with national companies and organizations.
 Via YouTube Live Mincyt-cba https://bit.ly/2zYrd1R

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : NET July 2020 : Florida
« Reply #135 on: 06/05/2020 04:38 am »
They have some sort of presentation tomorrow, maybe they'll say more.

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SAOCOM Webinar: Argentine Satellites for Productive Development. 🗓 Friday: 06/05 - Alarm clock 18 hours.
 Invited by @mincytcordoba
 We present about the SAOCOM Mission developed by CONAE together with national companies and organizations.
 Via YouTube Live Mincyt-cba https://bit.ly/2zYrd1R

Yes, I'll attend if I can! I'm sure they'll talk about the launch date or give time for questions.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : 2020 : Florida
« Reply #136 on: 06/05/2020 11:24 pm »
If any of our Spanish speaking members has time maybe they could take a look and see if there is anything interesting in here:

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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : 2020 : Florida
« Reply #137 on: 06/05/2020 11:51 pm »
If any of our Spanish speaking members has time maybe they could take a look and see if there is anything interesting in here:

The most interesting part (in my opinion) is that they hinted they're planning to continue working on SAOCOM 2A/B (approx. 1:25:00 in the video). There had been some speculation that they would stop at SAOCOM 1B.

No mention of the launch date. At one point in the video, they talked a bit about the launch, but they only said they had to postpone it. Many people asked in the live chat, but they only answered questions about the scientific applications.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : 2020 : Florida
« Reply #138 on: 06/24/2020 06:19 pm »
Any news about the launch campaign?

http://www.launchphotography.com/Delta_4_Atlas_5_Falcon_9_Launch_Viewing.html
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Other upcoming launches include: a Falcon 9 will launch the SAOCOM 1B Earth observation satellite for Argentina, the first polar-orbit mission from the Cape since 1960 on late July at the earliest, around sunset EDT. The first stage will land back at the Cape about eight minutes after launch.
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Re: SpaceX Falcon 9 : SAOCOM 1B : 2020 : Florida
« Reply #139 on: 06/24/2020 08:52 pm »
Any news about the launch campaign?

Not much. The satellite is ready to go, but the operations for launch readiness and LEOP afterwards still need people moving. Much of Argentina is still in lockdown, so we depend on special permits to travel or waiting until the situation changes.

There is a possibility of somehow getting people to the US to launch the satellite, and then do the LEOP remotely (i.e. from home) but... with the terrible internet we have in Argentina, I wouldn't say it's a safe option :P
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